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TSrtk73
post Mar 7 2025, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(NinG @ Mar 7 2025, 07:46 AM)
Imma a bit shocked..  xr no need twice daily. It's just once daily, evening time with meal..  but if u feel fine then ok
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post Mar 7 2025, 08:48 AM

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i managed to reverse pre-diab and pre-chloresterol b4.

Food
zero refine sugar (in food and drinks) - cook yourself
zero msg
minimal salt (use sea salt)
keto and intermittent fasting.

Exercise
10000 to 15000 steps daily (over 2 session better)

one month, managed to reverse back. Have to maintain to new lifestyle.

now i do the same but minimal carbo.
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post Mar 8 2025, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(inspiron @ Feb 28 2025, 12:20 PM)
where do you get the idea that you dont need fiber?
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If you "need" fiber, why do you shit it out?
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post Mar 8 2025, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Mar 2 2025, 11:04 PM)
Was on Metformin & Glimicron for years. Earlier this year the doctor stopped those & prescribed insulin because of the CKD.
I was diagnosed with stage 3a about 1 year ago. No specialized diet at the moment. Eating balanced meals, meds & exercise.
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I don't know if you've asked yourself this, but why would any doctor need to prescribe insulin? Are you having T1 diabetes? Are you pancreas not able to produce insulin?
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post Mar 8 2025, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Mar 4 2025, 06:11 AM)
You know la appointment to see specialist is quite slow to get in govt hospital. Anyway the KK doctor has prescribed folic acid, vit B complex & iron tablets, on top of Amlopidine which I'm already taking.

There are many FB treatment & supplement sellers who claim can heal CKD but I always thought it cannot be reversed.
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Why do you need to take supplements? Are you not getting enough from your diet? Have you questioned the bioavailability of the supplements you're taking?

I don't know if YOUR CKD is reversable, but a body is in its parasympathetic state it wants to heal, no matter whatever that injury is, even cancer. Whether or not it is able to heal depends on how much damage it has taken, and whether it has the sufficient materials to fix the damage. If you're constantly putting your body in a sympathetic state, or insulting, it will not be optimized for healing.
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post Mar 8 2025, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(NinG @ Mar 2 2025, 09:43 PM)
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When we are sleeping, blood glucose will dropped. That's how nocturnal hypoglycemia kicks in to certain patients.
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That is what happening to me mostly when monitoring glucose level.
After 12 midnite, It will start to drop until 7mol once wake up...
once I wake up, it will start climbing back even I didn't even have breakfast..
Seem fasting is the best way...

Skip breakfast or have a non sugary drink....
The glucose in my case will start only dropping to 5mol usually near noon or by 2pm latest.

So if I binge lunch.... The reading will double up and will fall that if I control my lunch.... If not.... All the way to 6pm before I harakiri insulin...

This post has been edited by MakNok: Mar 8 2025, 04:22 PM
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post Mar 8 2025, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Mar 8 2025, 04:20 PM)
That is what happening to me mostly when monitoring glucose level.
After 12 midnite, It will start to drop until 7mol once wake up...
once I wake up, it will start climbing back even I didn't even have breakfast..
Seem fasting is the best way...

Skip breakfast or have a non sugary drink....
The glucose in my case will start only dropping to 5mol usually near noon or by 2pm latest.

So if I binge lunch.... The reading will double up and will fall that if I control my lunch.... If not.... All the way to 6pm before I harakiri insulin...
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That's called the "Dawn phenomenon".

Your body kicks up cortisol to raise your blood sugar (amongst other things) so you can wake up. Nothing to worry about.

Skipping breakfast is healthier than most people think. Contrary to popular belief, it is NOT the most important meal of the day. It's a scam by Kelloggs to get people to eat their cereal.
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post Mar 8 2025, 05:37 PM

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Diabetes is because your body cannot absorb the glucose and all drained at your urine, right?

And you will get slimer and slimer, and feel very thirsty

TSrtk73
post Mar 8 2025, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Mar 8 2025, 05:37 PM)
Diabetes is because your body cannot absorb the glucose and all drained at your urine, right?

And you will get slimer and slimer, and feel very thirsty
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Nope, piss didn't have any glucose
That one GG ady

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post Mar 8 2025, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Mar 8 2025, 06:37 PM)
Diabetes is because your body cannot absorb the glucose and all drained at your urine, right?

And you will get slimer and slimer, and feel very thirsty
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Diabetes occurs when the body either doesn’t produce enough insulin or can’t effectively use the insulin it produces. Insulin is a hormone that helps regulate blood sugar (glucose) levels by allowing glucose to enter cells for energy. When this process is disrupted, blood sugar levels rise, leading to diabetes.

There are two main types of diabetes:
1. Type 1 Diabetes – This is an autoimmune condition where the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks insulin-producing cells in the pancreas, leading to little or no insulin production. The exact cause is unknown, but genetic and environmental factors (like viral infections) may play a role.
2. Type 2 Diabetes – This occurs when the body becomes resistant to insulin or doesn’t produce enough to maintain normal blood sugar levels. It is often linked to genetics, obesity, physical inactivity, and poor diet.

Other forms include gestational diabetes, which occurs during pregnancy, and prediabetes, where blood sugar levels are higher than normal but not high enough for a diabetes diagnosis.

Source: ChatGPT
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post Mar 8 2025, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Mar 8 2025, 06:57 PM)
Diabetes occurs when the body either doesn’t produce enough insulin or can’t effectively use the insulin it produces. Insulin is a hormone that helps regulate blood sugar (glucose) levels by allowing glucose to enter cells for energy. When this process is disrupted, blood sugar levels rise, leading to diabetes.

There are two main types of diabetes:
1. Type 1 Diabetes – This is an autoimmune condition where the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks insulin-producing cells in the pancreas, leading to little or no insulin production. The exact cause is unknown, but genetic and environmental factors (like viral infections) may play a role.
2. Type 2 Diabetes – This occurs when the body becomes resistant to insulin or doesn’t produce enough to maintain normal blood sugar levels. It is often linked to genetics, obesity, physical inactivity, and poor diet.

Other forms include gestational diabetes, which occurs during pregnancy, and prediabetes, where blood sugar levels are higher than normal but not high enough for a diabetes diagnosis.

Source: ChatGPT
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Correct, the insulin is to help glucose to be absorbed by cell and convert to energy.

Without that, your body cannot absorb the glucose (no energy) and you will become slim.
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post Mar 8 2025, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Mar 8 2025, 05:06 PM)
I don't know if you've asked yourself this, but why would any doctor need to prescribe insulin? Are you having T1 diabetes? Are you pancreas not able to produce insulin?
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Need to take the test to determined.

Mine is Type-1
Was on Metformin and Tranaligpin for years and because my diet were bad, so glucose level over the roof

Symptoms:
Hunger all the time
Weight loss of 20kg
Urinate frequently
Thirsty all the time
Wound not healing properly
Foot pain all the time
Feeling fatigue all the time

2 weeks ago, it was 21.5 mmol/g when did a health check.
Doctor prescribed insulin to me, 15ml x3 at the moment
Monitor 3x a day (breakfast, lunch, dinner)
Before take insulin and after take insulin + meal

Night -> morning - glucose level lowest at 7.5 mmol/g

Have to report to doctor every time, on the chat lol, show her what I ate and then been scolded all the time

Right now:
All symptoms is gone

Feeling better.



TSrtk73
post Mar 8 2025, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Mar 8 2025, 07:04 PM)
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Right now:
All symptoms is gone

Feeling better.
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Congrats!

Can share your diet and what you did?
Types of exercise etc etc
MAGAMan-X
post Mar 9 2025, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Mar 8 2025, 07:04 PM)
Need to take the test to determined.

Mine is Type-1
Was on Metformin and Tranaligpin for years and because my diet were bad, so glucose level over the roof

Symptoms:
Hunger all the time
Weight loss of 20kg
Urinate frequently
Thirsty all the time
Wound not healing properly
Foot pain all the time
Feeling fatigue all the time

2 weeks ago, it was 21.5 mmol/g when did a health check.
Doctor prescribed insulin to me, 15ml x3 at the moment
Monitor 3x a day (breakfast, lunch, dinner)
Before take insulin and after take insulin + meal

Night -> morning - glucose level lowest at 7.5 mmol/g

Have to report to doctor every time, on the chat lol, show her what I ate and then been scolded all the time

Right now:
All symptoms is gone

Feeling better.
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If you're having Type 1 diabetes, why are you prescribed metformin? Metformin is for type 2 diabetes. If you have type 1 diabetes and your blood glucose was through the roof, you should be given insulin shots, not metformin. I'm not a doctor but anyone with a basic understanding of the human body will know this. And you'd know this early in life because Type 1 is childhood diabetes.

UNLESS You're actually a type 1.5 diabetes, i.e. you have type 2 diabetes which then either through glycation destroyed your pancreas' beta cells (or they're simply exhausted) ability to produce insulin.

Naturally, the obvious solution here is to consume zero carbs. No doctor will recommend this because you won't need to go back for insulin, and right now you're a cash cow for them.
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post Mar 9 2025, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Mar 8 2025, 08:10 PM)
Congrats!

Can share your diet and what you did?
Types of exercise etc etc
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Breakfast:
Salad (cucumber, tomato, green leaf, lettuce)
Solid food can be anything:
- boiled chicken
- grilled chicken
- fried chicken

Anything that without rice, noodles or carb

Lunch
Salad again
Solid food can be anything: Boiled chicken, grilled pork, fried
chicken

No rice, noodles or carb

Dinner
Sometimes KFC burger and fried chicken
Grilled chicken, or boiled chicken

The thing is, I don’t cook, and my wife doesn’t cook as well, we are eating through take away ALL the time lol..

My only exercise:
Make love ❤️ lol

I didn’t and lazy to exercise for now.. waiting my condition back to optimum, will start running

QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Mar 9 2025, 03:24 AM)
If you're having Type 1 diabetes, why are you prescribed metformin? Metformin is for type 2 diabetes. If you have type 1 diabetes and your blood glucose was through the roof, you should be given insulin shots, not metformin. I'm not a doctor but anyone with a basic understanding of the human body will know this. And you'd know this early in life because Type 1 is childhood diabetes.

UNLESS You're actually a type 1.5 diabetes, i.e. you have type 2 diabetes which then either through glycation destroyed your pancreas' beta cells (or they're simply exhausted) ability to produce insulin.

Naturally, the obvious solution here is to consume zero carbs. No doctor will recommend this because you won't need to go back for insulin, and right now you're a cash cow for them.
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I’ve no idea, I had been prescribed with metformin and tranaligpin for years. Been to few different hospital, all these doctor gave me the same prescription. There are also one hospital doctor kinda gave me wrong diagnosis causing me more pain for few months.. that’s another story

It was working until it was not (because I didn’t control my diet -> roti canai, teh Tarik, sweet drink (chagee) Starbucks, latte.
And I don’t work out and exercise at all, too lazy and busy

Since I have 2 kids now, recent body fatigue motivate me to re do health check at one of most expensive hospital in vietnam (I emigrate here, as my wife is Vietnamese)

This new doctor when first visit and look at my leg ( wound that healed but dark) and medical report, was angry that I’m young and already had all this condition, she loook genuine.

So she said dont take metformin anymore:
1. No carb (rice, noodles, bread, fried thing)
2. Exercise
3. Take insulin and report to her every single time on what food I ate, the glucose level.

She will then advise me on the dose of insulin to take as well. She prescribed 1 month of insulin for me.

The health system here in vietnam:
Doctor prescribed meds, and these meds you get yourself either in hospital or outside at the pharmacy.

This post has been edited by cuddlybubblyteddy: Mar 9 2025, 07:12 AM
TSrtk73
post Mar 9 2025, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Mar 9 2025, 07:10 AM)
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She will then advise me on the dose of insulin to take as well. She prescribed 1 month of insulin for me.

The health system here in vietnam:
Doctor prescribed meds, and these meds you get yourself either in hospital or outside at the pharmacy.
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Wow... The doc really cares....
Thank god I have me bro, but the diet, exercises I do myself
He just told me to adjust prescription etc etc
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post Mar 9 2025, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Mar 9 2025, 09:18 AM)
Wow... The doc really cares....
Thank god I have me bro, but the diet, exercises I do myself
He just told me to adjust prescription etc etc
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She also give me this.

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Did you test Peptid-C ? This is to determine type of diabetes

This post has been edited by cuddlybubblyteddy: Mar 9 2025, 08:25 AM
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post Mar 9 2025, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Mar 9 2025, 08:22 AM)
She also give me this.

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Did you test Peptid-C ? This is to determine type of diabetes
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Type 2 ofcos


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post Mar 9 2025, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Mar 9 2025, 09:41 AM)
Type 2 ofcos
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Morning diet

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Currently the most effective to control sugar

Lots of green + boiled chicken


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post Mar 9 2025, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Mar 9 2025, 07:10 AM)
I’ve no idea, I had been prescribed with metformin and tranaligpin for years. Been to few different hospital, all these doctor gave me the same prescription. There are also one hospital doctor kinda gave me wrong diagnosis causing me more pain for few months.. that’s another story

It was working until it was not (because I didn’t control my diet -> roti canai, teh Tarik, sweet drink (chagee) Starbucks, latte.
And I don’t work out and exercise at all, too lazy and busy

Since I have 2 kids now, recent body fatigue motivate me to re do health check at one of most expensive hospital in vietnam (I emigrate here, as my wife is Vietnamese)

This new doctor when first visit and look at my leg ( wound that healed but dark) and medical report, was angry that I’m young and already had all this condition, she loook genuine.

So she said dont take metformin anymore:
1. No carb (rice, noodles, bread, fried thing)
2. Exercise
3. Take insulin and report to her every single time on what food I ate, the glucose level.

She will then advise me on the dose of insulin to take as well. She prescribed 1 month of insulin for me.

The health system here in vietnam:
Doctor prescribed meds, and these meds you get yourself either in hospital or outside at the pharmacy.
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Sounds like the msian doctor just prescribed you meds without knowing whatever for. They're just following algorithms that they've been given either by the medical "guidelines" or by pharma. There are A LOT of kooky msian doctors, and I've seen only a handful for good ones. That's the thing about msians though, they'd take meds for YEARS and their condition don't improve and they won't ask questions... really facepalm.

It's a good thing you've met a more sensible doctor in Vietnam. At least she knows the key is to stop carb intake. Once you get to a good metabolic state, and you know what's a good diet, you won't even need to take the insulin shots anymore, and stop being a cash cow for the medical industrial complex.

QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Mar 9 2025, 08:22 AM)
She also give me this.

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Did you test Peptid-C ? This is to determine type of diabetes
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Small input. Red meat is not harmful and is very nutritious, and animal organs are also nutrient rich and if consumed proportionally. Dietary cholesterol is not a health concern. The highest risk of any heart disease is metabolic syndrome, not cholesterol. In fact, you need cholesterol to heal your cells.

You can easily tell what type of diabetes by looking at blood glucose and body weight. T1D folks don't get fat, and probably has ketoacidosis. C-peptide is measure to see how much insulin you're producing, it's helpful to see if you're insulin resistant, or your pancrease's beta cells are exhausted.

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