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TSSkylinestar
post Jan 6 2025, 11:22 AM, updated 11 months ago

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Example Wharfedale D300 more expensive than D320. RM1499 vs 1399.
This is true for every brands.
Why?

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post Jan 6 2025, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 6 2025, 07:48 PM)
You only pay Dolby tax for "Atmos" when your speakers are upfiring modules designed within Dolby's specifications.

These are just pre-angled mini bookshelves.
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for upward firing mode, a different crossover is involved. different from normal on-wall speaker crossover. some speaker spec/description/manual talk about this change of crossover. a lot of them don't.

here's an example from Klipsch RP-500SA II that shows the switch:
https://www.klipsch.com/intl/products/rp-50...-sound-speakers

oh yes, that dolby logo = dolby tax tongue.gif

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for the Wharfedale D300 on wall speaker, no info in the manual about the switch:
https://www.wharfedale.co.uk/wp-content/upl...anual-90722.pdf
https://www.wharfedale.co.uk/d300-3d/
does that mean there is no switch?
the manual doesn't have the word Atmos though. where is dolby tax? tongue.gif

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post Jan 6 2025, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jan 6 2025, 08:33 PM)
unsure how it works, are u saying can use dobly/atmos as what TS posted without paying?
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upward firing mode = dolby tax
on wall mode = no tax
both = dolby tax tongue.gif
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post Jan 7 2025, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 7 2025, 02:37 PM)
I was trying to find info on the D300 spec sheet and no where does it say it has a crossover designed for Dolby's "up-firing" mode like you pointed out. So yeah I think it's simply down to volume of production on these height speakers for its higher price vs its other brothers.
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what I'm worried is that if I buy the D300 (or anything similar to it without a switch), and assuming it has the electronics for ceiling reflection mode, it is going to sound wrong if wall mounted.
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post Jan 7 2025, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 7 2025, 03:38 PM)
So no, it wouldn't sound wrong if you mount the D300 high up on the wall. What would make it sound wrong though is the position of it on the wall as the angle is preset and you can't adjust them without using an arm style bracket.
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that is if you assume it has the normal crossover mode (like any other bookshelf speaker).
can we assume that if it doesn't have the Dolby branding, it doesn't have the upfiring/reflection crossover? since it doesn't have, why manufacturers still claim it can be placed on top of another speaker and use in upfiring/reflection mode?
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post Jan 15 2025, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 8 2025, 02:55 PM)
If you want a "cheaper" Atmos setup, watch this video as a guide.

We can't get those prices since we got the Malaysia tax, but it'd definitely be cheaper. Techno Dad is a professional Dolby Atmos mixer.
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RM 6239 + (3729 x 2) = RM 13697
13697 ÷ 1428 = 9.59 vmad.gif

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post Jan 18 2025, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 18 2025, 05:29 PM)
Rule of thumb of audio: If your ear drums feel pain because of what you are hearing, turn down the volume knob. It's too loud. You'll damage your hearing, your audio equipment and your relationship with your neighbor.
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How loud do you watch your movies? 0dB reference level? -10dB? -20dB?
I know there are people who think -20dB is already too loud.

QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 18 2025, 05:29 PM)
61°C is pretty low. It could be that the user placed the receiver in a non-well ventilated space.
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I think 61°c can be easily reached in Malaysia climate.

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