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post Dec 29 2024, 10:20 AM, updated 12 months ago

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Putin apologises to Azerbaijan president over 'tragic' plane crash in Russian airspace

However, the Kremlin statement did not say Russia had shot down the Azerbaijani Airlines plane, only noting that a criminal case had been opened.

MOSCOW: President Vladimir Putin on Saturday (Dec 28) apologised to Azerbaijan's leader for what the Kremlin called a "tragic incident" over Russia in which an Azerbaijan Airlines plane crashed after Russian air defences were fired against Ukrainian drones.

The extremely rare publicised apology from Putin was the closest Moscow had come to accepting some blame for Wednesday's disaster, although the Kremlin statement did not say Russia had shot down the plane, only noting that a criminal case had been opened.

Flight J2-8243, en route from Baku to the Chechen capital Grozny, crash-landed on Wednesday near Aktau in Kazakhstan after diverting from southern Russia, where Ukrainian drones were reported to be attacking several cities. At least 38 people were killed.

Four sources with knowledge of the preliminary findings of Azerbaijan's investigation told Reuters on Thursday that Russian air defences had mistakenly shot the airliner down. Passengers said they heard a loud bang outside the plane.

The Kremlin said civilian and military specialists were being questioned.

2020, Iranian Revolutionary Guards mistakenly shot down a Ukrainian airliner, killing all 176 on board.

And in 2014, Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down over eastern Ukraine, with the loss of 298 passengers and crew, by what Dutch investigators said was a Russian BUK missile system. Russia denied involvement.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/azerb...irspace-4829466
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post Dec 29 2024, 10:30 AM

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Where's all the Putin bots? Dear leader say sorry oredy
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Oredy say sorry still can deny responsibility

Really taichi 101
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post Dec 29 2024, 10:34 AM

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>apologised

>but denied they shot down the plane

>but opened an investigation

topkek
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post Dec 29 2024, 10:35 AM

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all forgiven. just some people died. whistling.gif
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post Dec 29 2024, 10:36 AM

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Kremlin are fukken liars

Not enough proof oredy?

Same case with MH17
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post Dec 29 2024, 10:43 AM

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kremlin gave directive, don't talk about this issue where russia shot down the airliner so you see all the putin bots in /k also went 🤐🤐🤐

but really topkek...
say sorry.but open investigation and preliminary blame pilots for it.

QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 29 2024, 10:30 AM)
Where's all the Putin bots? Dear leader say sorry oredy
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Dec 29 2024, 10:43 AM)
kremlin gave directive, don't talk about this issue where russia shot down the airliner so you see all the putin bots in /k also went 🤐🤐🤐

but really topkek...
say sorry.but open investigation and preliminary blame pilots for it.
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Pilot mayday and requests for emergency landing was denied by airports anywhere in Russia

How to explain this? Pfft

Unintentional tragedy? Bullshit la
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QUOTE(3damansarautama @ Dec 29 2024, 10:20 AM)
Putin apologises to Azerbaijan president over 'tragic' plane crash in Russian airspace

However, the Kremlin statement did not say Russia had shot down the Azerbaijani Airlines plane, only noting that a criminal case had been opened.

MOSCOW: President Vladimir Putin on Saturday (Dec 28) apologised to Azerbaijan's leader for what the Kremlin called a "tragic incident" over Russia in which an Azerbaijan Airlines plane crashed after Russian air defences were fired against Ukrainian drones.

The extremely rare publicised apology from Putin was the closest Moscow had come to accepting some blame for Wednesday's disaster, although the Kremlin statement did not say Russia had shot down the plane, only noting that a criminal case had been opened.

Flight J2-8243, en route from Baku to the Chechen capital Grozny, crash-landed on Wednesday near Aktau in Kazakhstan after diverting from southern Russia, where Ukrainian drones were reported to be attacking several cities. At least 38 people were killed.

Four sources with knowledge of the preliminary findings of Azerbaijan's investigation told Reuters on Thursday that Russian air defences had mistakenly shot the airliner down. Passengers said they heard a loud bang outside the plane.

The Kremlin said civilian and military specialists were being questioned.

2020, Iranian Revolutionary Guards mistakenly shot down a Ukrainian airliner, killing all 176 on board.

And in 2014, Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down over eastern Ukraine, with the loss of 298 passengers and crew, by what Dutch investigators said was a Russian BUK missile system. Russia denied involvement.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/azerb...irspace-4829466
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LOL conviniently terforgot their master brutal act. whistling.gif

How about US navy shot down Iranian air killing where 200plus died?
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QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ Dec 29 2024, 10:56 AM)
LOL conviniently terforgot their master brutal act. whistling.gif

How about US navy shot down Iranian air killing where 200plus died?
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Maybe because that happned over 30 years ago while MH17 is just 10 years ago, and more of interest to CNA readers.
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 29 2024, 11:01 AM)
Maybe because that happned over 30 years ago while MH17 is just 10 years ago, and more of interest to CNA readers.
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If can quote 10 years why not 30years? And the fatality is much greater, and the 'mistake' is more obvious.
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post Dec 29 2024, 11:09 AM

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so it is not okay right?
will you condemn russia for that action of shooting down the airliner and MH17 as well cause it shit to down a civilian aircraft and pushing responsibility aside.

so russia is just as shitty as US righr and shooting down two airliner in less than 10 years, one that is ours.

QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ Dec 29 2024, 10:56 AM)
LOL conviniently terforgot their master brutal act. whistling.gif

How about US navy shot down Iranian air killing where 200plus died?
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QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ Dec 29 2024, 10:56 AM)
LOL conviniently terforgot their master brutal act. whistling.gif

How about US navy shot down Iranian air killing where 200plus died?
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That's the best you can do?

If orang lain boleh buat why Russia kenot shoot passenger jet?



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post Dec 29 2024, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ Dec 29 2024, 11:03 AM)
If can quote 10 years why not 30years? And the fatality is much greater, and the 'mistake' is more obvious.
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Because then why not include the 2024 Darfur shoot down? 2020 East African shoot down in Somalia? The 2020 Ukraine flught 752 shoot down in Tehran? The 2001 Siberia Flight 1812 shoot down over the Black Sea?

You want news article or Wikipedia entry?
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Say sorry but deny responsibility means wat?

Russia will 'accidently shoot' more passenger jets in the future?

Heck after MH17, now this?

Next ? Jets flying over Russia will be disappeared?
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Any Airlines using Russia, Ukraine & Middle East airspace must be vigilant....there is war/semi-war on land.
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Dec 29 2024, 11:09 AM)
so it is not okay right?
will you condemn russia for that action of shooting down the airliner and MH17 as well cause it shit to down a civilian aircraft and pushing responsibility aside.

so russia is just as shitty as US righr and shooting down two airliner in less than 10 years, one that is ours.
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I dont believe western media , if trust them Malaysian army should by shovels only to protect country. whistling.gif

North stream pipeline sabotaged by Ukrainian plumber doh.gif
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post Dec 29 2024, 11:15 AM

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eh why you avoided my question?
even Azerbaijan government also say it already.

so is russia shitty for shooting down a civilian airliner?

QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ Dec 29 2024, 11:13 AM)
I dont believe western media , if  trust them Malaysian army should by shovels only to protect country. whistling.gif

North stream pipeline sabotaged by Ukrainian plumber doh.gif
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QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ Dec 29 2024, 11:13 AM)
I dont believe western media , if  trust them Malaysian army should by shovels only to protect country. whistling.gif

North stream pipeline sabotaged by Ukrainian plumber doh.gif
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Why was the plane denied emergency landing in Russia?
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post Dec 29 2024, 11:21 AM

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Sendiri open case, sendiri investigate, sendiri cakap tarak sala

Sendiri close case

Nuff said

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 29 2024, 11:12 AM)
Because then why not include the 2024 Darfur shoot down? 2020 East African shoot down in Somalia? The 2020 Ukraine flught 752 shoot down in Tehran? The 2001 Siberia Flight 1812 shoot down over the Black Sea?

You want news article or Wikipedia entry?
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Yes why not? Darfur ? Russian made aircratt hmm.gif
Fligfh 752 after US terrorist killed important Iranian figures.

BTW when cited an incident, media should cite the same or worst kind of incident.

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Siakapbabi still avoiding the following questions

GPS jamming
Missile strike
Requests for emergency landing all denied
Putin apology but deny responsibility

If it's really a tragic mistake why the above??

Why apologize if not guilty?

Mistake or targeted? Clearly intentional


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QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ Dec 29 2024, 11:23 AM)
Yes why not? Darfur ? Russian made aircratt  hmm.gif
Fligfh 752 after US terrorist killed important Iranian figures.

BTW when cited an incident, media should cite the same or worst kind of incident.
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They are citing the same, Russia shoot down an airliner near a conflict zone but here you are still bitching.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 29 2024, 11:20 AM)
Why was the plane denied emergency landing in Russia?
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Helo bodo, The airport was closed due to the loser Ukrainian desperate drone attack.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Dec 29 2024, 12:21 PM)
Sendiri open case, sendiri investigate, sendiri cakap tarak sala

Sendiri close case

Nuff said

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More like Putin offering a rest in peace for the tragedy to Azerbaijan president.
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Haha invader cocksucker whataboutism mai dah
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QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ Dec 29 2024, 11:34 AM)
Helo bodo, The airport was closed due to the loser Ukrainian desperate drone attack.
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After accidently shooting a passenger jet then deny pilot emergency landing?

Definitely act of bad faith.

Still pretend to be blind?
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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ Dec 29 2024, 11:38 AM)
More like Putin offering a rest in peace for the tragedy to Azerbaijan president.
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So what happened to the jet?

Jet shot itself?
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 29 2024, 12:01 PM)
So what happened to the jet?

Jet shot itself?
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QUOTE(Szzz @ Dec 29 2024, 12:08 PM)
bird strike kek
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 29 2024, 12:00 PM)
After accidently shooting a passenger jet then deny pilot emergency landing?

Definitely act of bad faith.

Still pretend to be blind?
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Helo bodo baca ni

"Dmitry Yadrov, head of Russia’s civil aviation authority Rosaviatsia, said Friday that as the plane was preparing to land in Grozny in deep fog, Ukrainian drones were targeting the city, prompting authorities to close the area to air traffic.

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Yadrov said that after the captain made two unsuccessful attempts to land, he was offered other airports but decided to fly to Aktau."

https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-pla...56b0cd824f32a6f
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QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ Dec 29 2024, 12:11 PM)
Helo bodo baca ni

"Dmitry Yadrov, head of Russia’s civil aviation authority Rosaviatsia, said Friday that as the plane was preparing to land in Grozny in deep fog, Ukrainian drones were targeting the city, prompting authorities to close the area to air traffic.

Advertisement

Yadrov said that after the captain made two unsuccessful attempts to land, he was offered other airports but decided to fly to Aktau."

https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-pla...56b0cd824f32a6f
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Why Kenot redirect the plane to a safer zone for emergency landing?
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QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ Dec 29 2024, 12:11 PM)
Helo bodo baca ni

"Dmitry Yadrov, head of Russia’s civil aviation authority Rosaviatsia, said Friday that as the plane was preparing to land in Grozny in deep fog, Ukrainian drones were targeting the city, prompting authorities to close the area to air traffic.

Advertisement

Yadrov said that after the captain made two unsuccessful attempts to land, he was offered other airports but decided to fly to Aktau."

https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-pla...56b0cd824f32a6f
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Russian sources and claims versus blackbox
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 29 2024, 12:13 PM)
Why Kenot redirect the plane to a safer zone for emergency landing?
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Kamu ni dah lah bengap, degil pulak tu.

It was the pilot decision lah doh.gif
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South Korean president also needs to apologize to Thais... Owai impeached ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ Dec 29 2024, 12:14 PM)
Kamu ni dah lah bengap, degil pulak tu.

It was the pilot decision lah doh.gif
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Let's wait for the black box..
See different from Russian sos or not?

The real story will be revealed soon
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Blackbox or not..

Nobody insists on flying around after a bird or missile strike.

Saying the pilot insist to fly to Aktau is highly sus
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QUOTE(EX Unseen Forces @ Dec 29 2024, 12:16 PM)
South Korean president also needs to apologize to Thais... Owai impeached ohmy.gif
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South Korea one is don't know what shit skill can crash into airport wall

This one pilot got god like skills
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 29 2024, 12:21 PM)
South Korea one is don't know what shit skill can crash into airport wall

This one pilot got god like skills
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Big plane landed on small runway, need god skill
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 29 2024, 12:21 PM)
South Korea one is don't know what shit skill can crash into airport wall

This one pilot got god like skills
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If Israel did it, no one bat an eye and automatically assume hamas and their tunnels are in the airplane itself, totally justified, 100% self-defense.

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Hi desmonkey

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Hello shaved ape
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 29 2024, 12:26 PM)
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Yeah we are all apes.. next time don't butthurt and lipot
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Ukraine so called experts are not trustworthy at all. You must be retarded to trust them, I will never.

All are paid shills by Zelenskyy and NATO to prolong the Ukraine war.

Recently Slovenia president reveal that Zelenskyy outright tried to bribed him.

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 29 2024, 12:30 PM)
Yeah we are all apes.. next time don't butthurt and lipot
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he does all the time and then act like he is the victim lol
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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 29 2024, 12:25 PM)
If Israel did it, no one bat an eye and automatically assume hamas and their tunnels are in the airplane itself, totally justified, 100% self-defense.
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nahhhhh

telolis zionist is another level of cbness
they will doctorate a fake video and use it to shift the blame
even lepas kantoi they will just buat bodo lol

for those who just started with chapter 7/10,
no, this is way before chapter 7/10 biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ Dec 29 2024, 12:33 PM)
Ukraine so called experts are not trustworthy at all. You must be retarded to trust them, I will never.

All are paid shills by Zelenskyy and NATO to prolong the Ukraine war.

Recently Slovenia president reveal that Zelenskyy outright tried to bribed him.

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What this gotta do with the downing of the Azerbaijan jet ?

U got brain diarrhea again?
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Probably worrying Azerbaijan join nato
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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 29 2024, 12:25 PM)
If Israel did it, no one bat an eye and automatically assume hamas and their tunnels are in the airplane itself, totally justified, 100% self-defense.
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More "if they can do it why Kenot Russia?"

Funny Russian bots all using the same excuse

Ur sop issit?
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but but but malaysians uraaaaa uraaaa support russia invade ukraine

they forgot mh17

this one huge possibilty too
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 29 2024, 10:31 AM)
Oredy say sorry still can deny responsibility

Really taichi 101
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say sorry out of pressure but tarak admit his fault
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Dec 29 2024, 01:26 PM)
but but but malaysians uraaaaa uraaaa support russia invade ukraine

they forgot mh17

this one huge possibilty too
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Malaysia still have flights into Russia rite?


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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 29 2024, 01:24 PM)
More "if they can do it why Kenot Russia?"

Funny Russian bots all using the same excuse

Ur sop issit?
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those cyka blyat ada otak takkan talk like this

sheep is sheep
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QUOTE(DValentine @ Dec 29 2024, 01:29 PM)
those cyka blyat ada otak takkan talk like this

sheep is sheep
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Untill their plane flies into Russia airspace and another accident happens

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 29 2024, 01:28 PM)
Malaysia still have flights into Russia rite?
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no idea but likely yes

one pic seems indicate it was struck by AA missile
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 29 2024, 01:23 PM)
What this gotta do with the downing of  the Azerbaijan jet ?

U got brain diarrhea again?
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Are you stupid? It is a all you can blame buffet by the western controlled medias on anything and everything on Russian even when it is bad things that Ukraine has done.

Main point is to show how fucking fake Ukraine leadership is, and you Ukraine supporting fools eating it up like stupid while at last a person like Slovenia (A NATO member) president now showing the fucking truth how despicable Zelensky is despite Slovenia is in NATO.

The relation to Azerbaijan is countless cowardly refused to be named Ukraine "experts" blaming Russia hit the Azerbaijan plane while hiding their identity. All paid shills. Their main intention is to smear smear and smear while you fools eat it up.

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Putin afraid otherwise turkey and Azeri will attack his southern Caucasus border
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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ Dec 29 2024, 03:06 PM)
Are you stupid? It is a all you can blame buffet by the western controlled medias on anything and everything on Russian even when it is bad things that Ukraine has done.

Main point is to show how fucking fake Ukraine leadership is, and you Ukraine supporting fools eating it up like stupid while at last a person like Slovenia (A NATO member) president now showing the fucking truth how despicable Zelensky is despite Slovenia is in NATO.

The relation to Azerbaijan is countless cowardly refused to be named Ukraine "experts" blaming Russia hit the Azerbaijan plane while hiding their identity. All paid shills. Their main intention is to smear smear and smear while you fools eat it up.
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So, who shot the Azerbaijan passenger jet? Ukraine or Russian?

Who denied the jet emergency landing?
Who targeted the jet with GPS jamming?
Why Putin apologized if Russia didn't do anything wrong?

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Are you stupid? It is a all you can blame buffet by the western controlled medias on anything and everything on Russian even when it is bad things that Ukraine has done.

Main point is to show how fucking fake Ukraine leadership is, and you Ukraine supporting fools eating it up like stupid while at last a person like Slovenia (A NATO member) president now showing the fucking truth how despicable Zelensky is despite Slovenia is in NATO.

The relation to Azerbaijan is countless cowardly refused to be named Ukraine "experts" blaming Russia hit the Azerbaijan plane while hiding their identity. All paid shills. Their main intention is to smear smear and smear while you fools eat it up.
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The shrapnel damage on the jet come from where?

So, who hit the plane?? No need to go to Slovenia or Antarctica to find the answers
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can you like put some intelligence points can or not?
you like a 5 year kid despite all the facts that is presented.

1. passenger reported three explosion during incident.
2. it happen in russia airspace , like far away from Ukraine.
3. it wasn't allowed to land in any russian airport despite being IN EMERGENCY short to calling MAYDAY MAYDAY.
4. the damage being similar to AIR DEFENSE being used, and unless Ukraine can put some air defense deep inside russia territory it is likely russian air defense.
5. Azerbaijian is russia essential export, trade, and energy partner lol
6. Jam its GPS navigation.

if you gonna just throw insults without facts then you might as well not reply.
knowing you, when you cannot present facts for an argument or discussion, you start throwing insults lol



We shot you! now we blame the pilots! lolol


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Head of the Russian Investigative Committee Bastrykin arrived in Chechnya and was "briefed on the investigation into the circumstances surrounding the crash of the Azerbaijani plane." A case has been initiated under the charge of "violating safety regulations for the operation of air transport," which somewhat suggests that the pilots are to blame. Well, there you have it.

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1873100869043945906



QUOTE(Etude8891 @ Dec 29 2024, 03:06 PM)
Are you stupid? It is a all you can blame buffet by the western controlled medias on anything and everything on Russian even when it is bad things that Ukraine has done.

Main point is to show how fucking fake Ukraine leadership is, and you Ukraine supporting fools eating it up like stupid while at last a person like Slovenia (A NATO member) president now showing the fucking truth how despicable Zelensky is despite Slovenia is in NATO.

The relation to Azerbaijan is countless cowardly refused to be named Ukraine "experts" blaming Russia hit the Azerbaijan plane while hiding their identity. All paid shills. Their main intention is to smear smear and smear while you fools eat it up.
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Dec 29 2024, 06:13 PM)
can you like put some intelligence points can or not?
you like a 5 year kid despite all the facts that is presented.

1. passenger reported three explosion during incident.
2. it happen in russia airspace , like far away from Ukraine.
3. it wasn't allowed to land in any russian airport despite being IN EMERGENCY short to calling MAYDAY MAYDAY.
4. the damage being similar to AIR DEFENSE being used, and unless Ukraine can put some air defense deep inside russia territory it is likely russian air defense.
5. Azerbaijian is russia essential export, trade, and energy partner lol
6. Jam its GPS navigation.

if you gonna just throw insults without facts then you might as well not reply.
knowing you, when you cannot present facts for an argument or discussion, you start throwing insults lol
We shot you! now we blame the pilots! lolol
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Head of the Russian Investigative Committee Bastrykin arrived in Chechnya and was "briefed on the investigation into the circumstances surrounding the crash of the Azerbaijani plane." A case has been initiated under the charge of "violating safety regulations for the operation of air transport," which somewhat suggests that the pilots are to blame. Well, there you have it.

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1873100869043945906

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Lots of blah blah blah. Let the investigation finish first la. Nord stream explosion that time hide so long only then finally truth came out is NATO nations co-op sabotage.

You would be an idiot to think Ukraine is blameless and innocent in the whole scenario, this wouldn't have happened if they didn't send drones too.

Nah I gotta drum in repeatedly that blind Ukraine supporters are outright delusional for reals. Russia is not all good but Ukraine's leadership and internal ongoings? Now that's a super corrupted one.
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Sorry is cheaper than compensation and responsibility.

Puting following CancerPuAS people. Everything says sorry and move on.
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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ Dec 29 2024, 06:55 PM)
Lots of blah blah blah. Let the investigation finish first la. Nord stream explosion that time hide so long only then finally truth came out is NATO nations co-op sabotage.

You would be an idiot to think Ukraine is blameless and innocent in the whole scenario, this wouldn't have happened if they didn't send drones too.

Nah I gotta drum in repeatedly that blind Ukraine supporters are outright delusional for reals. Russia is not all good but Ukraine's leadership and internal ongoings? Now that's a super corrupted one.
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If you say ukraine's drones were involved, you automatically imply that the smoking gun are russian anti-air defenses. You dont deny committing the crime by saying "i did it because xyz".

Hopefully the russians are smarter than that.
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we shot it ! we blame everything else than us !
sounds so familiar with russia shooting down two civilian airliners, one of it ours.

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The fact that the fuselage of the crashed plane was riddled with holes completely ruled out the version of a collision with a flock of birds, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev stated in an interview with Azerbaijani Television.

The head of state expressed regret that certain circles in Russia preferred to adhere to this version:
“One of the points that upset and surprised us was that Russian official structures put forward theories about the explosion of some kind of gas cylinder. This clearly showed that the Russian side wanted to cover up the issue, which, of course, does no credit to anyone.”

Emphasizing that the plane was not deliberately shot down, Aliyev stated, “Admitting responsibility, apologizing in a timely manner to Azerbaijan, considered a friendly country, and communicating this to the public - these were measures and steps that needed to be taken.”

“Unfortunately, for the first three days, we heard nothing from Russia but absurd versions,” Aliyev added.

According to the President of Azerbaijan, the final conclusion will be made after the black boxes are analyzed. However, the initial theories are well-founded and based on facts.

“And the facts are as follows: the Azerbaijani civilian aircraft sustained external damage on Russian territory near the city of Grozny and practically lost control. We also know that our aircraft was rendered uncontrollable by electronic warfare systems. This was the first damage inflicted on the plane,” Aliyev said.

https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1873331672663417289

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 29 2024, 01:24 PM)
More "if they can do it why Kenot Russia?"

Funny Russian bots all using the same excuse

Ur sop issit?
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I'm just making fun of zionist macai dei, why you pulak terasa?

Besides, no tangible or solid proof to pin it to russia yet.
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I'm just making fun of zionist macai dei, why you pulak terasa?

Besides, no tangible or solid proof to pin it to russia yet.
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no proof? the shrapnel damage?
then the plane shot itself? GPS jamming? requests for emergency landing denied everywhere in russian airspace?


all of that glaring you in the face lol
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you really have to salute the airliner pilots to tried his best after being shot russian air defense.

looking at the erratic flight path can say they probably don't have much control and every second battling to keep the passenger plane in the air/stable to reach safety after denying landing on three russian airports.

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We have updated our post on #J28243 to include local pressure (1025 hPa) altitude corrections for the ADS-B data. ADS-B data is only reported in Standard pressure (1013.25 hPa).

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hahahaha that is so true...
Ukraine first and formost, Armenia is grumpy because CSTO was all talk and it lost some of its lands, Azerbaijan got its airline shot down and russia making lame excuse for it...

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Jeju flight divert much attention from Azerbaijan plane crash incident

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both are sad and tragic incident with Azerbaijan airline case is russia lied about it just like how they lied about MH17

QUOTE(bereev @ Dec 31 2024, 11:03 AM)
Jeju flight divert much attention from Azerbaijan plane crash incident
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Why bising² one? Later the investigation will reveal pilot error flying because pilot fly into war zone and intercept the surface to air missile.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 30 2024, 12:54 AM)
no proof? the shrapnel damage?
then the plane shot itself? GPS jamming? requests for emergency landing denied everywhere in russian airspace?
all of that glaring you in the face lol
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It is war zone, any side could have accidentally shot it, either Russia or Ukraine and its allies NATO.

If they actually got proof, it would have already been in front page news across West and Europe.

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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 31 2024, 07:49 PM)
It is war zone, any side could have accidentally shot it, either Russia or Ukraine and its allies NATO.

If they actually got proof, it would have already been in front page news across West and Europe.
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Accidently? if accident why GPS jamming ?
if accident why deny emergency landing?

Wot u been smoking bruh? Azerbaijan already EXPECTS Moscow to Apologize which Putin did, so you can single out Ukraine or Nato in your fanciful imaginary scenarios.


u asking for news? US intelligence already released evidence. if you dun trust US sources, then Azerbaijan also points the blame at Russia.

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 31 2024, 08:12 PM)
Accidently? if accident why  GPS jamming ?
if accident why deny emergency landing?

Wot u been smoking bruh? Azerbaijan already EXPECTS Moscow to Apologize which Putin did, so you can single out Ukraine or Nato in your fanciful imaginary scenarios.
u asking for news? US intelligence already released evidence. if you dun trust US sources, then Azerbaijan also points the blame at Russia.
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I already have for a long time didn't trust U.S intelligence since W.M.D. fiasco in Iraq, which causes the death of millions of Iraqis civilians.


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I already have for a long time didn't trust U.S intelligence since W.M.D. fiasco in Iraq, which causes the death of millions of Iraqis civilians.
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Then u haven't read Azerbaijani sources? Azerbaijan already blamed Russia.

No need to cope so hard

U want evidence? Wait till they publish the findings of the black box retrieved from the crash site


If u don't like the result don't buat bodo pulak
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 31 2024, 08:29 PM)
Then u haven't read Azerbaijani sources? Azerbaijan already blamed Russia.

No need to cope so hard

U want evidence? Wait till they publish the findings of the black box retrieved from the crash site
If u don't like the result don't buat bodo pulak
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It is a war zone, putin apologize for it as a formal matter as any nation leaders should, he is not admitting it.

Russia are not like God chosen people, they can make mistakes too, since they are going against Ukraine + NATO + U.S.

Do you understand?

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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 31 2024, 08:34 PM)
It is a war zone, putin apologize for it as a formal matter as any nation leaders should, he is not admitting it.

Russia are not like God chosen people, they can make mistakes too, since they are going against Ukraine + NATO + U.S.

Do you understand?
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Actually, no need Black box also plenty of evidence showed Russia air defence systems downed the Azerbaijani jet.

Shrapnel damage sustained by the plane is obvious from missile strike....then pilots denied emergency landing is downright criminal.

Wait for the black box to confirm who's at fault.


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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 31 2024, 08:34 PM)
It is a war zone, putin apologize for it as a formal matter as any nation leaders should, he is not admitting it.

Russia are not like God chosen people, they can make mistakes too, since they are going against Ukraine + NATO + U.S.

Do you understand?
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Saying sorry but admitting not at fault? What a weird way of saying apologizing without taking responsibility

What kind of apology is that? Why apologize if u don't do anything wrong?
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Actually, no need Black box also plenty of evidence showed Russia air defence systems downed the Azerbaijani jet.

Shrapnel damage sustained by the plane is  obvious from missile strike....then pilots denied emergency landing is downright criminal.

Wait for the black box to confirm who's at fault.
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Saying sorry but admitting not at fault? What a weird way of saying apologizing without taking responsibility

What kind of apology is that? Why apologize if u don't do anything wrong?
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Because putin is smart enough to not to trust U.S intelligence too, so they do their own investigation first.

Besides, it is U.S intelligence that first accused Russia of blowing their nordstream pipelines when they can just close the switch.
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Because putin is smart enough to not to trust U.S intelligence too, so they do their own investigation first.

Besides, it is U.S intelligence that first accused Russia of blowing their nordstream pipelines when they can just close the switch.
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So diverting the topic la.. from jet tetiba nak derail to nordstream la bladiblabla

Just wait for findings of the Black boxes retrieved from the crash site.


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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 31 2024, 08:50 PM)
Because putin is smart enough to not to trust U.S intelligence too, so they do their own investigation first.

Besides, it is U.S intelligence that first accused Russia of blowing their nordstream pipelines when they can just close the switch.
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Russia don't have the black boxes anyway.

They can "investigate" until they think they are completely innocent lol
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So diverting the topic la.. from jet tetiba nak derail to nordstream la bladiblabla

Just wait for findings of the Black boxes retrieved from the crash site.
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You say to trust U.S Intelligence, but they are untrustworthy since decades ago.

Which idiot would blow up their own newly installed pipelines after painstakingly build it for years with other nation?

That's how stupid is their intelligence, and they expect people to gobble it up without questioning it.

Okay, you wait for it, don't be surprised later the black box data is corrupted or unusable.
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Russia don't have the black boxes anyway.

They can "investigate" until they think they are completely innocent lol
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Kesienz, keep replying to the same post repeatedly.

BTW you know I like to trigger ktards for laugh, right?
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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 31 2024, 09:25 PM)
You say to trust U.S Intelligence, but they are untrustworthy since decades ago.

Which idiot would blow up their own newly installed pipelines after painstakingly build it for years with other nation?

That's how stupid is their intelligence, and they expect people to gobble it up without questioning it.

Okay, you wait for it, don't be surprised later the black box data is corrupted or unusable.
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Ok you can ignore US intelligence if u want .

Azerbaijan side based on their investigation still blame Russia. Why? Oredy got evidence of gps jamming and emergency landing denied.


U look at the damage on the plane and tell me if birds caused that or a missile?
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Kesienz, keep replying to the same post repeatedly.

BTW you know I like to trigger ktards for laugh, right?
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U see your attitude? Got evidence also u won't believe 1 la coz you want reality to fit your narrative.

Not my fault.

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Smsid now allege black box will be corrupted coz wanna based SOLELY on Russian investigation lol

What a retard
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where have you been in the past week? biggrin.gif
Azerbaijian president already demanding apology.

the facts were all out for the world to see, shot in russian airspace., denied landing, GPS jammed, and hope to be sent across the sea to crash land in ocean to wipe evidence...
if accidentally shot, give immediate landing and medical assistance still acceptable. this one is DAMNING to MURDER all the civilians in the airliner to cover the incompetency's of russian arm forces.

with the black box soon to be in Brazil company hands, the transcripts were likely to be even more damning.

QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 31 2024, 07:49 PM)
It is war zone, any side could have accidentally shot it, either Russia or Ukraine and its allies NATO.

If they actually got proof, it would have already been in front page news across West and Europe.
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Why so slow one the blackbox to reveal the transcript?

It should take hours only, unless the blackbox is damaged and some of the data is corrupted.

Go Google how long it takes to retrieve data from blackbox.


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❗️🇦🇿Azerbaijan is preparing a lawsuit against 🇷🇺Russia in an international court over the downing of an AZAL passenger plane by air defense, local media reports

The Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry also called for the closure of the "Russian House" in Baku

https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1887473832883081679


Azerbaijan is preparing to file a lawsuit in an International Criminal Court against Russia over the downing of an AZAL passenger plane near Aktau.

According to Azerbaijan’s state news agency “Ara”, Russian officials, experts, and media continue to deny involvement in the incident, instead attributing responsibility to the aircraft's crew. The report draws parallels between this case and the 2014 downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 over East of Ukraine, for which Moscow has not acknowledged responsibility.

“Russian officials, experts, and media continue to deny their involvement in the incident, attempting to shift the blame onto the crew. This approach closely resembles the tactics used following the downing of the Malaysian Boeing 777 in 2014 over Donetsk region, for which Moscow has yet to take responsibility,” the agency reported.

Azerbaijani authorities stated that they have gathered intelligence on those who issued the order leading to the attack.

“Despite the evidence, attempts to divert the investigation and place blame on the crew are deeply concerning,” the report added.

The ongoing investigation includes experts from Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Russia, and Brazil—the aircraft’s manufacturing country—ensuring a comprehensive review of the incident.

On December 25, 2023, an Azerbaijan Airlines passenger plane crashed near Aktau, Kazakhstan, resulting in at least 38 fatalities. Investigations revealed that the aircraft was hit by a Russian Pantsir-S missile.

https://united24media.com/latest-news/azerb...-parallels-5680
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At least Putin apologized for the unintentional tragedy, meanwhile Netanyahu say nothing after massacred 20k civilians.

Until now they need their Papa U.S to come forward to solve their spoilt brat problems.

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Smsid now allege black box will be corrupted coz wanna based SOLELY on Russian investigation lol

What a retard
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Thanks for reminding me about the black box, why it take them forever to release the data?

Don't they want to quickly make Russia guilty of it with the blackbox data?
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Kazakhstan delays release of Azerbaijan plane black box data

Astana (Kazakhstan) (AFP) – The publication of the black box data from an Azerbaijani plane that crashed in Kazakhstan last month has been delayed, a Kazakh official said Friday

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250...-black-box-data
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Thanks for reminding me about the black box, why it take them forever to release the data?

Don't they want to quickly make Russia guilty of it with the blackbox data?

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250...-black-box-data
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Don't know but Azerbaijan spitting on Russia face figuratively by helping Ukraine

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1887802107668975880

Azerbaijan sends another batch of aid to Ukraine, including $1 million worth of electrical equipment

The equipment is intended to help restore power infrastructure in areas damaged by Russian strikes.

Earlier, Azerbaijan—despite being an ally of the Kremlin—announced plans to file a lawsuit in an international court to hold Russia accountable for the shootdown of an AZAL passenger plane over Aktau.
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QUOTE(nuvi @ Feb 7 2025, 11:42 PM)
Don't know but Azerbaijan spitting on Russia face figuratively by helping Ukraine

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1887802107668975880

Azerbaijan sends another batch of aid to Ukraine, including $1 million worth of electrical equipment

The equipment is intended to help restore power infrastructure in areas damaged by Russian strikes.

Earlier, Azerbaijan—despite being an ally of the Kremlin—announced plans to file a lawsuit in an international court to hold Russia accountable for the shootdown of an AZAL passenger plane over Aktau.
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That aids is probably to help civilians to get power supply during winter, kudos to them.

The news below is issued on 24/01/2025, already received data 1 month ago, but refused to release it, so weird.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250...-black-box-data

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That aids is probably to help civilians to get power supply during winter, kudos to them.

The news below is issued on 24/01/2025, already received data months ago, but refused to release it, so weird.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250...-black-box-data
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That's aids also a statement that what Russia doing is wrong.
I mean do you think Russia is right by doing these to their own soldiers?

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1887804528810197427

Russia: Kremlin regime ensures its cannon fodder fulfills the mission of death. Wounded soldiers missing body parts and fresh out of half-baked surgeries with flesh still exposed forcibly taken back to the frontline straight from the hospital

 

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