Will you write down all your information, such as assets, password and whatever information you Wanna let your family members know for the ease after you go "home"??

You just need to tell them to find that book and tbey got all the information that you have written.

Else, they will never know what you have and to handle and settle???

This post has been edited by jack2: Dec 27 2024, 10:59 PM

Password is not necessary unless you want your family member to have immediate access to the account. The account information can be mentioned in the list of assets for distribution.

This post has been edited by yeeck: Dec 27 2024, 11:01 PM

I sked they will K.O me for my money

All my credentials are stored in the password keeper. Everything is there.

But need password and key to open. So you can pass to two persona for protection just in case.

Yes, I remembered last time I wrote all info and put inside desk drawer before I went for COVID-19 Vaccine injection.

You scared you gg after vaccination?

Yes, but I am confident for the vaccination after the 1st vaccine. But still keep inside my secret box just in case my family member wants to claim life insurance.

First of all, do you have a Will?

Still looking for the right person/company to assist.

I have plans set up if my Google account went offline for 3 months.

An auto email will trigger to a trusted friend, which then will help comb some of my stuff before releasing them to my family members.

Learn how to setup Google Inactive Account Manager and Facebook Legacy Contacts here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4761342

Very informative and is the one I am looking for.

currently need some time to write down my message going to paasdown to my family members

any law firm is enough, but ofcoz got some shady law firm will kepo but they cant do anything until after you go home anyway, big ones usually are safe enough and experienced enough but small firms also can geh just depends how much you want to pay them for the trouble only

also the password thing is kinda in a grey area, one hand, its sooooo much easier for family member to access without official help and can action things quicker, if you dont do the password book and they want access then they have to go official route which often involve a very long red tape where they have to show death cert to prove this and that and even then, sometimes service provider wont give access also. i think the same with bank as well, if no joint acc then money gone for some bank but others you will end up 6+ months just to get a bunch of doc and show them and even then they can just say nah dont wanna help

on the other hand, if you settle things correctly, they shouldnt need to access any of it unless they want to get some family item like family pics or some stuff from ur account / computer. so really depends. you dont know what they want to do with ur stuff after you go home so either you make it easier for them or you dont.

i saw some past threads people asked for help to get into so and so account coz they want pic or msg or something but some people comment said, if they didnt prep for you to have access means they dont want you to have access and to just leave it, then it became an issue coz the family member now just want to kepo and chao that person's stuff.

Any recommendation of law firm which is reputable to handle?

Of course my intention is to make everything in a smooth and easy way for them.

depends on which type you are. i think M C I have different process. can't speak for the others but for C its usually just looking up some law firm that specialize in this aspect around your area then go in for consultation.

one of the bigger / popular one is called RockWills at old klang road (macam got multiple branch now) but at the end of the day, just shop around and schedule a session to talk to them and see if you feel ngam with them or not.

they will usually give you all the info and what is the process like if need to execute the will. if at any point you dont feel right or you dont understand certain things and they cannot explain in a way for you to understand then just find another firm to go with.

You can write your own will if you are a non-muslim without the need for any 3rd party, except for the 2 witnesses. Read this and also this as your starting point

Time waits for no man ..they said.

Cool. good to know this & thank you.

Initially I plan to donate out all my belonging to one association but I've changed my mind for not. Thanks to my dogs and the factor to let me see clearly.

This post has been edited by jack2: Dec 28 2024, 11:38 AM

After that just keep it in a safe place. I think that is where the issue lies, not with the actual writing of the will. Someone must know that you do have a will written, for it to be implemented.

Yes, that why I opened this thread to pass down all messages in a booklet or notebook 555 (but too small to write down)

You don't trust your family. Better break ties with them.

I wanted to answer this. I trust my family and it is OK even they know my passwords right now for everything.

Nothing to worry. Nobody want to gain from dirty money because it cannot be clean in your lifetime.

Hi Jack, I could not offer any advice because I dont think I have any wills or money for my family. Dont think I would have even at the age of 50s or 60s if I live that long.

But I hope you are doing well and in good health.
Hope you are not planning something
If you need to talk, you can pm me.

Hi kawa_e,

Nothing to worry about. Life is impermanent and we never know what would happen in the next second.

The best is to prepare everything and to pass down any messages before it happened. Then I will be peacefully go home which is the Pure Land of Namo Amitabha without any worry.

After consideration, I still go for wills for proper management under law. Leave no worry to my family, clear cut on my plan.

what about BTC wallet private key / recovery phrases

what is the best way to keep it away from them while you are alive, but released to them after your death

The money and accounts is mine only and if I die its not to be snooped around

They probably wouldn't want to

They dun have a geyboi relative, gey as fuck

Thank you, can save some money DIY wills.

there are many ways to do it and solely depends on the comfort level of the person on how he/she is going to implement.

Some even feels not safe if to write down everything on a book or paper.

This post has been edited by jack2: Dec 29 2024, 09:37 AM

zip everything up in a long enough encryption password like 90 characters....

then give 30 to sibling 1 , 30sibling 2 and the last 30 to sibling 3.

is only when the 3 come together are they able to access your info...

Hypothetical.... what if you and a sibling both pass on while in the same car wreck? Everything gone forever?

The will is allowed by law to be written by the individual, but I always say the passing on of the information is the issue that has to be figured out
- write a will and keep in the house? What if the house burns down with you in it?
- keep specific information in the cloud? Legality of e-will and passwords to access
- keep will with lawyer/will writing agency? Family must know to contact the correct firm after death
- pass on multiple copies to few people? legality, and must keep track of multiple copies
- give someone/multiple people master password? password changes how?

Don't get me wrong, I also am thinking of how to solve this problem. That's why following this thread for ideas. Right now I have the single copy at home, but I think I am going tp be giving another copy to a trusted friend (who is not a beneficiary) and having a second copy around in case of my passing.

True. Passing down information is more important than will in my opinion.

That why I am trying to write down what messages I Wanna pass down and at the same time copy the info to do will.

Currently thinking to write on a book or use Microsoft 365 to write and share with the person that will assist me when I go home.

This post has been edited by jack2: Dec 29 2024, 10:30 AM

Google allows setup of death mans switch... if one year no access account can setup to email info or passwords to someone else email account if you want...

The physical assets within the country, I think it is not an issue. You can write a will.

The troublesome one based on your description will be the digital currency asset.

1) You do not want to reveal your current wealth - revealing them will invites unnecessary trouble, change of ppl perception towards you ( ppl with bad intention, no longer genuine relationship but more on interest and gain, etc).

2) You write the access & password down - you worry, the wrong ppl will hijack & access to it.

3) You didn't write anything down - you worry if you pass away suddenly, the wealth become no one asset, just floating in the digital space.

4) You write some secret codes - you worry the one inheriting the documents could be too dump to understand it, ended up it will lead to 3).

All these worries, why not just convert all the digital assets to the physical / conventional assets while you still can? This alone eliminates all the issues. Keep thing simple & executable by an ordinary ppl. By doing so, no one need to know how many physical assets you owns under your name as long as you never reveal it / flex it. It will remain hidden in the record only.

You don't have to write down any vulnerable access or password. You may only be worry if ppl tampered the "will". The mortal real's issue no longer the deceased problem, let them figure out themselves. It is not something to be worried by the deceased anymore. If already died but still need to worry about mortal realm's problem, this kind of life /after-life is so miserable. If you have done all the necessary & the asset still did not end up to the intended ppl hands, that is known as fate.

You're correct. But the timing of the Letter of Administration/Grant of Probate will then be affected, as the information will only come out after 1 year. Not to mention your estate may already be disbursed, and then suddenly after one year it is found out that you actually have a will. I think you are on the right track though... maybe make it 3 months time interval

I document all my secret keys and hashes for my next kin.

you can set this if you dont want to disburse using the LA or grant of probate method...

like in cryptos, doesnt make sense to write your seed phrase and share them to the person who holds your WILL. nothing stopping them to restore the wallet and draining it and saying as an excuse that the wallet of the deceased has been hacked.

Apologize if you are meaning something else, but the LA or GP is not a "method"; the next-of-kin must have a LA/GP* before they can begin to do anything to your assets. It's basically the High Court saying "yup, he ded, can start sharing the loot"
The issue I see is that the court may issue LP/GP before my wishes come out from the dead-man's-switch in Google, and by that time my assets may already start to be shared.

*Letter of Administration, if you do not have a will
*Grant of Probate, if you do have a will

Spend all before jalan ?

I don't bother, since I'm the youngest. All my family will die off before me.

Totally wrong mindset and typical person will think of this.

Youngest =/ die at the last

You thought kematian of a person has sequences?

old die first, followed by the youngest? You have yet to include all type of accidents and penyakit..

This post has been edited by Sunshape: Jan 4 2025, 09:21 AM

When my children were studying overseas, i wrote down an intensive instruction for them to follow in case both my wife and i were called home. This is to ensure that they had continuous financial help is we were suddenly gone.

From the easiest accessible cash to the most difficult and the lawyer to engage with.

Ya rockwill seems like a reputable ones. My aunt (single woman) has written her will with them and let us keep a copy of her custody card in case anything happen.

can give more info about the intensive instruction? got set up trust fund ?

No Trust fund. My assets are not so huge to require a trust. But i appointed my TRUSTED friend to be their guardian at that time.

Instructions:
a) reveal all known assets: from cash to properties
b) passwords for bank accounts. Instruction to withdraw. EPF. How to withdraw as there is a nomination instruction.
c) security boxes
d) others

But the most important objective at the time was to ensure quick accessible cashflow at the time.

I question your logic, but I admire your confidence!

who u select as executor of ur will?

This topic is hot again after few days without any replies.

welcome to discuss and once I have time to write and finish, I will share.

If I go one day, someone from LY will help me to announce..huhu

I have already transferred all major assets. EPF nomination is done. The only things left are some pretty cash here and there.

For that I have left my passwords to my daughter. I am still in the process of setting up bill payments in her name using a joint account.

How to GG more important isn't it

We can't control how to GG, why need to bother

One of my children.

just for your info....even with bank password, atm card, etc....certain amount they will need to talk to the real person for verification purpose.....i learn this just b4 my mother passaway....lucky can still talk for a bit...if not your account will be freeze until owner do something about it

just go for a lawyer, draft the will, simple
no need go rockwillis

Most likely ending for many
Dad, mum, older siblings, then you

You talk like one of my friend.

I feel like I have ntg to prepare to them aside nominating who would take my EPF.
Even my insurance is on the brink of lapsing.

Anyway Jack. I wish you all the best. A good health for you and your furbabies.

Assuming I go before my mother, she can grab the info from safe deposit box which I update regularly, will also on standby.

If she goes first, means I'm alone. I have no next in line. Probably do what my granduncle did, assets go to local charity homes/animal welfare group.

Hacker able to access the info of the email when it's on "standby" or draft?
I'm afraid someone else read the info before the email actually triggered to send

Its not on email. Its in Google Inactive Account Manager service.