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ameliorate
post Dec 27 2024, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 27 2024, 02:54 PM)
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Telco in West Malaysia  is still a government-controlled monopoly via TM HSBB Wholesale and MSAP (Mandatory Standard on Access Pricing) regulations, eg Maxis, CelcomDigi and U Mobile still have to pay TM a nominal sum  for their backhaul Fibre Internet connections of all their 4G cell towers. Similarly for DNB's 5G cell towers.
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Should use the same model for electricity. The competitors buy from TNB and resell. I just don't know what features they can give to differentiate though like telco.

Give free home ev charger?

gaeria84
post Dec 27 2024, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 27 2024, 01:07 PM)
2028-2030 (set by PAS-PN.?)
- 45.62 sen/kWh (no increase.?) ...
.... but whole Malaysia become mundur like Kelantan and Taliban/ /Afghanistan. U mau.?

Apa lagi U mau.?
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Kerajaan mundur vs kerajaan penipu

Dunno, irl would you trust a liar or an outdated person
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post Dec 27 2024, 03:06 PM

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maxpudding
post Dec 27 2024, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Dec 27 2024, 02:45 PM)
Thanks for confirming that end user consumers will be the one on the short end of the stick in a open electricity market.
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So monopolistic electricity market also favours the end users until the end of time la ya?

I don’t see anyone praising the gomen after the 14% hike, do you?

Topkek

And also, what I mean by the consumers need to regulate themselves, is that the consumers need to use energy efficiently, and not excessively. Open market with green supply works best when people are more conservative in their energy usage. If you are a wasteful person, then prepare to pay more la.

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post Dec 27 2024, 03:18 PM

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I hope OPR increases also

#diewithmassivedebt
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post Dec 27 2024, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Dec 27 2024, 03:16 PM)
So monopolistic electricity market also favours the end users until the end of time la ya?

I don’t see anyone praising the gomen after the 14% hike, do you?

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If you think a "monopolistic electricity market" is bad, wait till you see a "open" electricity market.

There is a cost to having multiple companies/retailers with their own CEO's, their own HR, their own billing systems, their own marketing, instead of one vertically integrated utility run by technocrats and not by economists.
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post Dec 27 2024, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Dec 27 2024, 03:02 PM)
Kerajaan mundur vs kerajaan penipu

Dunno, irl would you trust a liar or an outdated person
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Malaysia's cost of electricity per kWh is still one of the cheapest in Asia, even cheaper than Indonesia, Thailand and Philippines.

So, more like kerajaan realistic or kerajaan kebenaran, ...
.... eg TNB will need higher capital expenditure in 2025-27 to upgrade it's electricity grid, eg because more people are driving EV cars that need more public DC fast-chargers everywhere and also need 3-phase electricity supply conversion for their homes.

So salah EV lovers and wumaos who buy CCP China EV cars.
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post Dec 27 2024, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 27 2024, 03:19 PM)
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Malaysia's cost of electricity per kWh is still one of the cheapest in Asia, even cheaper than Indonesia, Thailand and Philippines.

So, more like kerajaan realistic or kerajaan kebenaran, ...
.... eg TNB will need higher capital expenditure in 2025-27 to upgrade it's electricity grid, eg because more people are driving EV cars that need more public DC  fast-chargers everywhere and also need 3-phase electricity supply conversion for their homes.

So salah EV lovers and wumaos who buy CCP China EV cars.
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Pass the charge to ev users rather than across the board hikes

Electricity hikes also impact cost of goods
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post Dec 27 2024, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Dec 27 2024, 03:16 PM)
And also, what I mean by the consumers need to regulate themselves, is that the consumers need to use energy efficiently, and not excessively. Open market with green supply works best when people are more conservative in their energy usage. If you are a wasteful person, then prepare to pay more la.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-18/ex-e...rices/103700324

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-09/ener...rates/103655324

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-03/dema...holds/103913030

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-28/ener...-work/104275654

Complex pricing has shown to not benefit consumers.
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post Dec 27 2024, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Dec 27 2024, 03:19 PM)
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Malaysia's cost of electricity per kWh is still one of the cheapest in Asia, even cheaper than Indonesia, Thailand and Philippines.

So, more like kerajaan realistic or kerajaan kebenaran, ...
.... eg TNB will need higher capital expenditure in 2025-27 to upgrade it's electricity grid, eg because more people are driving EV cars that need more public DC  fast-chargers everywhere and also need 3-phase electricity supply conversion for their homes.

So salah EV lovers and wumaos who buy CCP China EV cars.
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Dec 27 2024, 03:22 PM)
Pass the charge to ev users rather than across the board hikes

Electricity hikes also impact cost of goods
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Maybe ICPT surcharges is already affecting many EV car owners who charge their cars at home, ie those who use >1,500kWh per month.
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post Dec 27 2024, 03:41 PM

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post Dec 27 2024, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Dec 26 2024, 08:52 PM)
hmm, this is tnb's contract supply agreement but sarahan madani?
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Kerajaan tidak benarkan kenaikan tarif menjejaskan rakyat – PM Anwar

Beliau sudah hubungi Timbalan Perdana Menteri II yang juga Menteri Peralihan Tenaga dan Transformasi Air, Datuk Seri Fadillah Yusof untuk meminta Tenaga Nasional Berhad (TNB) untuk berikan penjelasan.

https://www.wilayahku.com.my/kerajaan-tidak...akyat-pm-anwar/

So basically, lepas ni:

If naik - bukan salah madani
tak jadi naik - puji madani
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post Dec 27 2024, 03:44 PM

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post Dec 27 2024, 03:45 PM

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good news for EV owners
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post Dec 27 2024, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Dec 27 2024, 03:23 PM)
Either you failed at comprehending my meaning or you only see the short term challenges without recognizing the long term benefits.

Open market, as the name implies will always open to many challenges la, and energy markets are specially volatile, especially with RE power plants. But all these challenges and feedbacks are what make an open market much better than the conventional subsidized market, it is always open to improvement. And Australia also is getting ready to change and adapt to those challenges. Don’t only read about the negatives la kawan. You on blood thinners ke? Triggered tak tentu pasal.

Also, like what I implied in my previous posts, an open market doesn’t necessarily mean a higher cost for electricity, IF the open market is properly designed to work. Not easy, and it’ll take years to do. But to get it work, the consumers will also have to change their attitude towards energy usage too. That’s why in Malaysia we have the EECA as a starting point. The EC is monitoring your company’s electricity ok? If you use a lot, a letter will come to your boss and ask you to reduce it mmkay? Tak mau comply, saman lerr.

Before I end my conversation with you, because you seemed too dense to understand….so no point for me to layan u anymore…If we have the largest solar farms in the world, but if you use energy excessively, tak guna juga la. No need to complaint if you used a lot. Bayar je 14% hike tu. After that, maybe 20%, 30%…who knows? tongue.gif
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post Dec 27 2024, 03:54 PM

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So on the plus side, next year EPF dividend also 14%?🤞
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post Feb 20 2025, 03:00 PM

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PETRA, Energy Commission Finalising New Electricity Tariff

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KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 19 (Bernama) -- The Ministry of Energy Transition and Water Transformation (PETRA) and the Energy Commission (ST) are finalising the proposed new electricity tariff set to take effect on July 1, said Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Fadillah Yusof.

He said the new tariff will be implemented based on input and feedback from stakeholders gathered during engagement sessions on Jan 13 and Feb 5.

"The ministry assures that the electricity tariff setting in Peninsular Malaysia and Kulim Hi-Tech Park (KHTP) considers all aspects, including the welfare and wellbeing of the people.

"This is to ensure that 85 per cent of domestic consumers in Peninsular Malaysia, as well as those in the Micro, Small, and Medium-sized Enterprises (MSME) category, remain protected," he said.

Fadillah, who also serves as the Energy Transition and Water Transformation Minister, said this when winding up the debate on the motion of thanks for the royal address on behalf of PETRA in the Dewan Rakyat today after 53 MPs debated it.

Meanwhile, he said that 136 flood mitigation projects, costing RM22.86 billion, have been approved under the Fifth Rolling Plan of the 12th Malaysia Plan, of which 35 projects are in the pre-implementation stage, and 73 projects are being implemented.

“Through a non-structural approach, PETRA via the Drainage and Irrigation Department is developing a nationwide flood mitigation master plan aimed at providing comprehensive action plans and solutions…taking into account factors such as climate change and changes in land use before proposing physical projects,” he said.

Fadillah said 50 flood mitigation master plans have been completed under the rolling plan, six are being developed, and another three are set to begin development in June.

He added that PETRA is also carrying out works on operation maintenance and unexpected emergencies to restore flood-damaged structures nationwide, with a total cost of RM540 million.

-- BERNAMA

Source: https://bernama.com/en/general/news.php?id=2394277

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