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kesvani
post Dec 22 2024, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(zuozi @ Dec 22 2024, 11:35 AM)
Having children or not itu lain cerita, you kahwin, sign paper because you want to give her 名分 , if you think she not even worth a 名分 TS better fast2 let ppl go and she can probably found someone better than TS .
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But what if it is her side unwilling to let go. My case I already let her go(literally chase her out) but she die die want come back live same room with me. Now my thought now is hope while with me she can find a better one.
QUOTE(killdavid @ Dec 22 2024, 06:35 PM)
Have children?
Then who will be the legal guardian of the children ?
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Of course the mother

This post has been edited by kesvani: Dec 22 2024, 08:18 PM
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post Dec 22 2024, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(kesvani @ Dec 22 2024, 08:16 PM)
But what if it is her side unwilling to let go. My case I already let her go(literally chase her out) but she die die want come back live same room with me. Now my thought now is hope while with me she can find a better one.

Of course the mother
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LOL, the mother rugi like that. Dunno who will willingly take this raw deal
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post Dec 22 2024, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(potatobanana @ Dec 22 2024, 11:28 AM)
In a nutshell, would it be possible for a couple to live together, have children together and getting old together without signing paper?
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Having children together, yes. But if the girl is foreigner, the children will be stateless without proper marriage documentation. If both go separate ways, the children becomes nobody's child.
So why put them in those trouble when you just want to enjoy life with partner?
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post Dec 22 2024, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Dec 22 2024, 08:42 PM)
LOL, the mother rugi like that. Dunno who will willingly take this raw deal
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Know someone said that and that is my EX1. She said to me should have just keep the child that dhe abort and bring back to her country and raise the child herself as a version of me.

QUOTE(YoungMan @ Dec 22 2024, 09:03 PM)
Having children together, yes. But if the girl is foreigner, the children will be stateless without proper marriage documentation. If both go separate ways, the children becomes nobody's child.
So why put them in those trouble when you just want to enjoy life with partner?
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If not mistaken the children will follow mother nationality
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post Dec 22 2024, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(xeNOS @ Dec 22 2024, 07:27 PM)
Don't waste someone's youth.
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I thought I'm the old timer with outdated perception of relationships.

Only youth can start relationships?
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post Dec 23 2024, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(kesvani @ Dec 22 2024, 10:10 PM)
Know someone said that and that is my EX1. She said to me should have just keep the child that dhe abort and bring back to her country and raise the child herself as a version of me.
If not mistaken the children will follow mother nationality
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Yes, but only if the mother is responsible enough to register the children's birth.
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post Dec 23 2024, 10:57 AM

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getting children without marriage your inheritance going to be financial nightmare even with wills.

If u are B40 who have more loans than asset then it's okay.
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post Dec 23 2024, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Dec 22 2024, 01:46 PM)
It is totally possible to not getting into marriage.

But you might want to rethink the benefit of the institution of marriage :

1. Legal Justification: Marriage provides automatic legal rights and protections that unmarried couples may not have. This includes inheritance, medical decision-making, and property ownership.

2. Social Norms: Unmarried couples might still face questions and judgments. You will constant face questions from people. If both of you do not mind, it will be fine. But think about your extended family, your children. 

3. Commitment: Marriage, as a ceremony, holds the power to solidify commitment. It provides a structured framework, a safe haven within which couples can navigate the inevitable challenges of life.

4. Economic Benefits:  Marriage often comes with financial advantages like tax relief, spousal benefits in insurance plans, and easier access to joint loans.
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all of the above if you wifu work... hope your wifu didn't work and have no kids and become a burden.... if got a lot of kids also a burden and ask tongkat....
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post Dec 23 2024, 02:47 PM

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Cons:

1) Both person does not have abide with law which mean both can't claim on behalf if there is any issue happened.

2) Any of them could just disappear and you couldn't report to police for missing person due to not a family member status.
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post Dec 23 2024, 02:53 PM

 
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QUOTE(giftfre @ Dec 23 2024, 02:47 PM)
Cons:

1) Both person does not have abide with law which mean both can't claim on behalf if there is any issue happened.

2) Any of them could just disappear and you couldn't report to police for missing person due to not a family member status.
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Non family member cannot report missing person? Got any sos?
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post Dec 23 2024, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(zuozi @ Dec 22 2024, 11:35 AM)
Having children or not itu lain cerita, you kahwin, sign paper because you want to give her 名分 , if you think she not even worth a 名分 TS better fast2 let ppl go and she can probably found someone better than TS .
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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Dec 22 2024, 11:52 AM)
Definitely possible.

But no thanks, my wife sacrificed so much time and youth for me, least I could do is let her be officially entitled to every possession of mine when I’m no longer around.

If the idea of splitting up is even factored in the relationship, then might as well not start a relationship. Waste of time to both parties.
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still see some responsible men out there.

thank you.


QUOTE(Mr.Robert @ Dec 22 2024, 01:29 PM)
Why would u think girl sign something that’s disadvantaged to em?

Would u sign if you’re girl?

In a relationship, it is give n take.
Win win situation is very rare.
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some girls make much more than men. your traditional thinking has to change.

how about you getting ready to cook, look after the house, and milk your baby. and get nothing in return.

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post Dec 23 2024, 03:31 PM

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If got children better married la, it's not acceptable got children but not married, very selfish. If no plans to have children different story
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post Dec 23 2024, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 23 2024, 02:57 PM)
still see some responsible men out there.

thank you.
some girls make much more than men. your traditional thinking has to change.

how about you getting ready to cook, look after the house, and milk your baby. and get nothing in return.
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Gotta treat the ladies with respect.

So future daughter (if dapat) knows the importance of it..
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post Dec 23 2024, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Dec 23 2024, 02:53 PM)
Non family member cannot report missing person? Got any sos?
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Sorry my bad, there is no regulation or law that we can't report a missing person who are not our relative member.

In fact, police will start to do investigation once report official report from people. But before investigation start,
The details of missing people must be fill in as accurate as it could.
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post Dec 23 2024, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(potatobanana @ Dec 22 2024, 11:28 AM)
These days, many people are afraid of getting married because of various reasons.

I was just having a thought, what if a couple live together and go through their day like a married couple without having to tie the knot?

Couple would worry less about divorce + breakup + split assets, where they can just breakup without bearing additional hassles.

Pros: Don't have a worry about divorce, lesser commitment and responsibilities to bear
Cons: ? (feel free to share in comment)

For the sake of the simplicity in this discussion, let's exclude the factor of religion, we can take atheist as a good example.
Comments pertaining to religion will be removed.

In a nutshell, would it be possible for a couple to live together, have children together and getting old together without signing paper?
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maybe you can point out, as i fail to understand since you put having children together. how can there be lesser commitment and responsibility to bear when breakup? what do u thing children are??
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post Dec 23 2024, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(giftfre @ Dec 23 2024, 02:47 PM)
Cons:

1) Both person does not have abide with law which mean both can't claim on behalf if there is any issue happened.

2) Any of them could just disappear and you couldn't report to police for missing person due to not a family member status.
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Number 2 is the real cons. people can just simply mia. lol.

next week fighting.next week also partner dissepeared.lol
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post Dec 23 2024, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 23 2024, 02:57 PM)
still see some responsible men out there.

thank you.
some girls make much more than men. your traditional thinking has to change.

how about you getting ready to cook, look after the house, and milk your baby. and get nothing in return.
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So far, I haven’t heard any divorced lady giving nafkah to her ex husband, at least in MY context.
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post Dec 24 2024, 01:49 AM

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Marriage is good.. It gives the person you care about legal and status protection. It's like doing business with registered ssm.You can also do without it but the limitations are there.
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post Dec 24 2024, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(potatobanana @ Dec 22 2024, 11:28 AM)
These days, many people are afraid of getting married because of various reasons.

I was just having a thought, what if a couple live together and go through their day like a married couple without having to tie the knot?

Couple would worry less about divorce + breakup + split assets, where they can just breakup without bearing additional hassles.

Pros: Don't have a worry about divorce, lesser commitment and responsibilities to bear
Cons: ? (feel free to share in comment)

For the sake of the simplicity in this discussion, let's exclude the factor of religion, we can take atheist as a good example.
Comments pertaining to religion will be removed.

In a nutshell, would it be possible for a couple to live together, have children together and getting old together without signing paper?
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w/o married can still piap?? what if pregnant how?
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post Dec 24 2024, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(ribit123 @ Dec 24 2024, 01:49 AM)
Marriage is good.. It gives the person you care about legal and status protection. It's like doing business with registered ssm.You can also do without it but the limitations are there.
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after married can everytime piap no need ask permission ka? hmm.gif

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