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post Dec 19 2024, 09:00 AM

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As business owner, let me be frank. Its almost impossible to hire someone above 50 because of the following:
1. Most old people can't cope with technology. Some so stubborn, die2 want to use old school system.
2. Health Issue.
3. Attitude. Old people are usually stubborn af. They dont want to listen to young people, no matter how good the advise is.
4. Salary too high mainly because years and years of experience. But let face it, 10 years experience is good enough already.
5. Commitment issue. Young couples, or newly married couple are better as they have commitment. Old people usually have this dgaf attitude.

I know it does not apply to all, but most are. I do have one manager at 56 years old. Dont know how to use phone other than forwarding message and tiktok. Cant even use online banking. Stubborn af. Had bypass surgery, slip disk, and yet still smoke like no tomorrow, everyday also drink cap kapak whisky.
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post Dec 19 2024, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Palisades @ Dec 19 2024, 12:48 PM)
I know Power BI, who says I old school system.
Health? my blood pressure is 110/75. I cycle 75km a week.
Attitude. Well I am doing a different role within my co with same pay.
Commitment? I have commitment. My kids still young.

I hope you drop fallacy about old staff mentality, not all of us are useless.
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I literally says at the end of my reply there, not all, but mostly are. And u tend to ignore that and continue to justify. No one says anyting about being useless. Its arrogance, and it shows here.

No one talked about old school. I am talking about adaptability to modern system. Knowing stuff and being able to adapt to it are totally different things.
Health is not just about blood pressure. And 75km per week is low, especially cycling. Cycling does not put much pressure on your knees. When u are old, a lot of disease lurked in without u knowing. When is the last time u did full medical checkup for 50 and above? Not just normal medical checkup, but special one for people above 50.
Attitude is not about doing different things or different role. Its about how u treat other, especially people who are younger than u. Its about how u swallow your pride, and being able to listen to younger people advise.

Your replies shows how u see younger people.

And since you have experience, why dont u do freelance? Since u are in accounting, I know a lot of companies looking for freelance to do their management account and audit account.
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post Dec 23 2024, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Palisades @ Dec 21 2024, 04:50 PM)
To justify means arrogance? You just made a sweeping general statement about people in their 50s can't adapt. Where are your statistics? There are a lot of smart people who can adapt in their 50s. A lot of vice presidents and business owners are in their 50s. Elon Musk is 53yo - he has 3 successful business in rocket, EV and social media business plus he is now a Trump advisor, that speaks a lot about adaptability. That arrogance generalization should be pointed back to you and you made sweeping assumptions "mostly", how mostly? 50%? 60%? 80% ?

Again here lies in your discrimination and misjudgement of people character. You've got to synergize people with different skills and characteristics. To justify is not a sign of pride. Americans likes to speak their mind, so you telling me that you should shun working with Americans? In the workplace, there are people who justify - lawyers, a marketing consultant that does their pitch, a sales guy who wants to close their sales, an analyst that produces his results and stats to show why co is in this situation.

Just because you had bad experiences with older people does not mean, the rest is as bad as they are.

I am 51yo, not 70yo, for goodness sakes. Yes I may have higher chances of diseases. But I tell you, I am a lot more fitter than most dudes younger than me. When I climbed Tabur and Broga hills, I see young people left behind in a huff and puff breathless. There are young people who kena cancer in their 20s and 30s, for your information. Yes perhaps stats show higher risks, but that doesn't mean I am a zombie, for goodness sakes. In Japan, UK, Singapore, Australia, they hire people in their mid 60s to work, there's got to be some justification to that.

I cycle once per week, on Saturdays, so its one day = 75km. Again, you like to assume. Who tells you that cycling does not put much pressure on your knees. I cycle up to Genting sempah. I don't cycle on flat land, mostly hilly terrain and I maintain my cadence.

And another thing, I did not know you are a younger person. We just communicate here, I have never seen you in my life. Seriously, you have issues, just because someone don't agree with you, does not mean that someone is full of pride don't listen to advice and full of arrogance. The other way can be said of you.

My reply shows how I see younger people? You think I have bionic eyes can see you are younger in this forum?

I have worked as a freelancer before, does not make as money as my senior position plus cashflow due to clients don't prioritize accounting and audit work payments. Maybe audit and taxation can enforce, but not so much accounting work. E-invoice is very challenging as it involves IT and mediaware expertise.
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Rant all you want, it show how arrogant u are. Most of the replies here agree with my statement, or at least questioned your network. I imagine you are not an easy person to work with. While u rant and try your hardest to justify your arrogance, I'm going to let u win in public forum. I'm not the one who open a thread in public online forum asking for a job anyway.

With your attitude, good luck working with gen z. They will cancel u right away. U may want to reflect on how u respond to criticism and harsh response. Sometime the problem is not with others, but within yourself.

 

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