Outline ·
[ Standard ] ·
Linear+
News Retirees need RM 2,700 per month, for reasonable standard of living
|
TSSt0rmFury
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:26 PM, updated 2y ago
|
Getting Started

|
QUOTE Retirees need RM2,690 a month for reasonable standard of living
KUALA LUMPUR: According to the Employees Provident Fund's (EPF) latest guide on monthly expenditure for retirees, a single elderly person needs RM2,690 a month to maintain a reasonable standard of living in retirement.
The pension fund today launched Belanjawanku 2024/2025, which is a guide developed by the EPF and the Social Wellbeing Research Centre (SWRC) at the University of Malaya to estimate the minimum monthly expenses needed for a decent living standard.
Initially focused on the Klang Valley, the guide now covers 11 other major cities in Malaysia and is updated yearly to reflect current living costs.
According to the EPF, it serves as a practical tool for households and a valuable reference for policymakers.
Meanwhile, the EPF has also rolled out the Retirement Income Adequacy (RIA) Framework, which revises the recommended savings level from a single benchmark to three tiers, comprising "basic", "adequate" and "enhanced" levels of savings.
According to the EPF, the RIA Framework, which is set to be implemented in January 2026, allows members to set savings targets that reflect different retirement lifestyles and aspirations.
"This approach emphasises the importance of viewing EPF savings as a source of ongoing income, helping members to understand savings they will need to sustain themselves during retirement," said the pension fund.
Due to the rising cost of living, the RIA Framework will be reviewed every three years starting from 2029, using updated data from the Belanjawanku findings.
The revisions to the Belanjawanku savings benchmarks will have implications for the withdrawal threshold for EPF members, as well as the amount of savings members can transfer from their Akaun Persaraan to approved funds. https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ndard-of-living
|
|
|
|
|
|
guailow83
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:28 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Encik Aduka
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:29 PM
|
Getting Started

|
QUOTE(guailow83 @ Dec 12 2024, 02:28 PM) Ouchh
|
|
|
|
|
|
tifosi
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:31 PM
|
|
Syukur I am ready to retire based on the findings
|
|
|
|
|
|
soul78
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:31 PM
|
|
QUOTE(guailow83 @ Dec 12 2024, 02:28 PM) aiyohh
|
|
|
|
|
|
jackal1950
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:39 PM
|
|
RM2700 per month RM2700 x 12 months = RM32400 RM32400 x 20 years = RM648000
Provided you are healthy and don't have medical expenses.
End of the day, if you don't have enough money to retire then you have to steal food from shops and end up in prison. At least you got shelter and food in prison.
This post has been edited by jackal1950: Dec 12 2024, 02:41 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
Nanti Sekejap
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:42 PM
|
|
if fd 4%, then need 800k to generate that.... not that difficult la /k all 20k salary
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ludwig.
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:43 PM
|
|
2.7 really few ringgit nly i think i spend more on upgrade fon every month hehe
|
|
|
|
|
|
ozak
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:46 PM
|
|
You need 650k @5.5% in kwsp.
With 2.5% inflation, it can last you for 30yrs after retirement.
|
|
|
|
|
|
ThirdSon
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:47 PM
|
Getting Started

|
when i old
i'm seriously thinking of taking year long trip on a cruise ship
lodging with free food and entertainment
later if dead the captain have permission to just tossed me overboard
|
|
|
|
|
|
pinamorita
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:47 PM
|
New Member
|
/k/ standard need 12k/m
|
|
|
|
|
|
new in IT
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:49 PM
|
|
Cukur masih boleh jimat.
Sarapan pagi roti bakar 2 keping, telur 2 biji dan kopi-O dalam RM 5.
Merarau dan makan malam, nasi bujang dengan teh manis dalam RM 8.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Zot
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:50 PM
|
|
QUOTE(jackal1950 @ Dec 12 2024, 02:39 PM) RM2700 per month RM2700 x 12 months = RM32400 RM32400 x 20 years = RM648000 Provided you are healthy and don't have medical expenses. End of the day, if you don't have enough money to retire then you have to steal food from shops and end up in prison. At least you got shelter and food in prison. You need to add that you own a house, not renting. No other hutang
|
|
|
|
|
|
gogocan
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:51 PM
|
|
I think I will need 10x that amount
|
|
|
|
|
|
nelson969
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:51 PM
|
|
standard changed eh
|
|
|
|
|
|
MegaCanonF
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:52 PM
|
|
caregiver oso 5k/month today..
This post has been edited by MegaCanonF: Dec 12 2024, 02:52 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
Wedchar2912
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:53 PM
|
|
On one hand, 1.5K minimum wage is too high.
But on the other, retirees need min 2.7K to live.
Interesting numbers.
|
|
|
|
|
|
dawnreaver
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:54 PM
|
|
How about sexbot maintenance fee?
VR subscription fee?
Automated food delivery and transport fee?
|
|
|
|
|
|
party
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:54 PM
|
|
QUOTE(jackal1950 @ Dec 12 2024, 02:39 PM) RM2700 per month RM2700 x 12 months = RM32400 RM32400 x 20 years = RM648000 Provided you are healthy and don't have medical expenses. End of the day, if you don't have enough money to retire then you have to steal food from shops and end up in prison. At least you got shelter and food in prison. KKM seinggit kan ada
|
|
|
|
|
|
ycs
|
Dec 12 2024, 02:55 PM
|
|
need at least 5-6k pm
|
|
|
|
|
|
TiramisuCoffee
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:00 PM
|
|
QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Dec 12 2024, 02:47 PM) when i old i'm seriously thinking of taking year long trip on a cruise ship lodging with free food and entertainment later if dead the captain have permission to just tossed me overboard cruise ship cheap? If long life dun die how?  kena sendiri jump ship... Lol
|
|
|
|
|
|
GHBZDK
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:02 PM
|
Getting Started

|
cant even cover for 1000 draws on wu wa. how the retiree zoomers make do
|
|
|
|
|
|
moiskyrie
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:07 PM
|
|
How to retire if the current salary less that this 2.7k.... And still dare say inflation 2 % nia... He pubya dick inflate 2% during tegabg maybe...
|
|
|
|
|
|
CeDhhVss
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:08 PM
|
Getting Started

|
by the time you retire
cars should have been fully paid house also paid
so u just live using petrol, food, and health
shopping sikit2 cukup la
|
|
|
|
|
|
TiramisuCoffee
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:11 PM
|
|
QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 12 2024, 02:53 PM) On one hand, 1.5K minimum wage is too high. But on the other, retirees need min 2.7K to live. Interesting numbers. young adults maintenance free...? Old farts high maintenance (medical)... Deswai humanitarian perspective :v should b given d option to rip... when no more money, or very sakit..HOW?... It's hell on earth... .if dun allow mercy rip, gov should literary bela hidup 100% $$$$... Kauorang setuju tak?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Redhunt
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:12 PM
|
Getting Started

|
EPF gives opporunity for MPs to ask Mr Madani how to achieve this
of course he will give 1 sentence answer and no one will ever follow up
|
|
|
|
|
|
TiramisuCoffee
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:17 PM
|
|
QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Dec 12 2024, 03:08 PM) by the time you retire cars should have been fully paid house also paid so u just live using petrol, food, and health shopping sikit2 cukup la Should should should... Wat if wat if wat if... Another topic to cover is healthy retirement... Retirement age and healthy retirement very different... If too big discrepancies may run out of money 💰, or leave too much to next of kin /our pets or maids ( v work so long so hard to benefit everyone else is like bodo isn't it...?)
|
|
|
|
|
|
noien
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:19 PM
|
|
QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Dec 12 2024, 03:08 PM) by the time you retire cars should have been fully paid house also paid so u just live using petrol, food, and health shopping sikit2 cukup la But but. How to drive same car for 20 years?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Wedchar2912
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:22 PM
|
|
QUOTE(noien @ Dec 12 2024, 03:19 PM) But but. How to drive same car for 20 years? i'm still using my car of 15 years old... nay, next year will be 16 years old. no issue... its a old honda accord. 20 years should be fine, especially if it is one of those car used for same town/city drive... for market... for close distance... by careful middle aged men/old ladies...hehe
|
|
|
|
|
|
netflix2019
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:22 PM
|
|
QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Dec 12 2024, 03:08 PM) by the time you retire cars should have been fully paid house also paid so u just live using petrol, food, and health shopping sikit2 cukup la per year 2 times overseas trip is a MUST in malaysia. can die if no go take pic post instagram/facebook/tiktok
|
|
|
|
|
|
nelson969
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:25 PM
|
|
 cant la...  work until die lo all my calculation is considering inflation and out of control expenses also consider u really super healthy, no go out oversea travel, just NEET at home 24/7 , zero contact with family and friend who pass away, live all alone This post has been edited by nelson969: Dec 12 2024, 04:14 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
CeDhhVss
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:25 PM
|
Getting Started

|
QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Dec 12 2024, 03:17 PM) Should should should... Wat if wat if wat if... Another topic to cover is healthy retirement... Retirement age and healthy retirement very different... If too big discrepancies may run out of money 💰, or leave too much to next of kin /our pets or maids ( v work so long so hard to benefit everyone else is like bodo isn't it...?)  health retirement, better from now on, take insurance. potong je from EPF QUOTE(noien @ Dec 12 2024, 03:19 PM) But but. How to drive same car for 20 years? gg la kalau ini macham. This post has been edited by CeDhhVss: Dec 12 2024, 03:26 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
sonypshomer
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:26 PM
|
|
QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Dec 12 2024, 03:08 PM) so u just live using petrol, food, and health So live in cruise ship or 5 star hotel no need to pay all that, headache free, owait
|
|
|
|
|
|
netflix2019
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:30 PM
|
|
QUOTE(nelson969 @ Dec 12 2024, 03:25 PM) Every month need scaling, medical clinic, and eye glass repair RM950??? better go die la if already reach this stage. Buy some charcoal burn in your room. much cheaper. Also RM500 shampoo per month?!?!?! hahahahha sohai u mistaken per year as per month or what????? HAHHAHAHA bodo. this pattern still can make more than rm2700 income per month. Malaysia small pond so easy level make money here. IQ average also can become jaguh kampung i tell u.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Shanks747
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:34 PM
|
Getting Started

|
gg rm2700
|
|
|
|
|
|
zerorating
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:37 PM
|
|
get 3 rezeki, each rezeki give rm900/sebulan. kawtim.
|
|
|
|
|
|
nelson969
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:38 PM
|
|
QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Dec 12 2024, 03:30 PM) Every month need scaling, medical clinic, and eye glass repair RM950??? better go die la if already reach this stage. Buy some charcoal burn in your room. much cheaper. Also RM500 shampoo per month?!?!?! hahahahha sohai u mistaken per year as per month or what????? HAHHAHAHA bodo. this pattern still can make more than rm2700 income per month. Malaysia small pond so easy level make money here. IQ average also can become jaguh kampung i tell u. aiya let me change, thanks for telling , shampoo + hair wash + face wash stuff , if go to the expensive stuff usually 199-300-700-1000, just go bodyshop and see the price for toner + face cleanser + tree oil serum together .
|
|
|
|
|
|
TiramisuCoffee
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:43 PM
|
|
QUOTE(noien @ Dec 12 2024, 03:19 PM) But but. How to drive same car for 20 years? Let's use imiginasi.. when sooo old, can b sooo sick... Forget driving la... Take cab je...
|
|
|
|
|
|
Zaryl
|
Dec 12 2024, 03:47 PM
|
|
Cukurrr my future monthly pencen will be more than that.
Plus with epf i saraan manual contributions lagi.
Inb4 untung lah keja government
|
|
|
|
|
|
Skylinestar
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:10 PM
|
|
QUOTE(Nanti Sekejap @ Dec 12 2024, 02:42 PM) if fd 4%, then need 800k to generate that.... not that difficult la /k all 20k salary Maybank fd only 2.6
|
|
|
|
|
|
periuknasi
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:14 PM
|
New Member
|
QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Dec 12 2024, 02:47 PM) when i old i'm seriously thinking of taking year long trip on a cruise ship lodging with free food and entertainment later if dead the captain have permission to just tossed me overboard for a final sendoff, toss at front of ship.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Nanti Sekejap
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:15 PM
|
|
QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 12 2024, 04:10 PM) Maybank fd only 2.6  nanti kalau interest naik, home loan payers berserk pulak?
|
|
|
|
|
|
periuknasi
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:16 PM
|
New Member
|
QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 12 2024, 03:22 PM) i'm still using my car of 15 years old... nay, next year will be 16 years old. no issue... its a old honda accord. 20 years should be fine, especially if it is one of those car used for same town/city drive... for market... for close distance... by careful middle aged men/old ladies...hehe Sunshape come explain how much fun is to drive old honda okod.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Sunshape
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:24 PM
|
|
QUOTE(periuknasi @ Dec 12 2024, 04:16 PM) Sunshape come explain how much fun is to drive old honda okod. why asked me?
|
|
|
|
|
|
periuknasi
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:25 PM
|
New Member
|
QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 12 2024, 04:24 PM) QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 9 2024, 10:27 AM) I drive a very old and unsightly car, and the police always stop me to check on me and the car. Some even purposely U-turn from the other side of the road and stopped me to check. Just now I was driving in the highway and the patrol car also stopped me when they passby. Although I did nothing wrong, the feeling was very bad and sad. Looking to buy a second hand car which tahan lasak for rough use.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Sunshape
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:27 PM
|
|
QUOTE(periuknasi @ Dec 12 2024, 04:16 PM) Sunshape come explain how much fun is to drive old honda okod. QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 12 2024, 04:24 PM) QUOTE(periuknasi @ Dec 12 2024, 04:25 PM) can go to that thread and read lorrrrrrrr
|
|
|
|
|
|
cloudwan0
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:28 PM
|
Getting Started

|
QUOTE(jackal1950 @ Dec 12 2024, 02:39 PM) RM2700 per month RM2700 x 12 months = RM32400 RM32400 x 20 years = RM648000 Provided you are healthy and don't have medical expenses. End of the day, if you don't have enough money to retire then you have to steal food from shops and end up in prison. At least you got shelter and food in prison. simple calculation, add in depreciation, you need 1mil minimum...
|
|
|
|
|
|
soul78
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:28 PM
|
|
QUOTE(Nanti Sekejap @ Dec 12 2024, 02:42 PM) if fd 4%, then need 800k to generate that.... not that difficult la /k all 20k salary New /K standard... RETIRE with 20K monthly passive....
|
|
|
|
|
|
Pain4UrsinZ
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:38 PM
|
|
QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 12 2024, 02:46 PM) You need 650k @5.5% in kwsp. With 2.5% inflation, it can last you for 30yrs after retirement. is okay i only live 10 years after retired
|
|
|
|
|
|
smallbug
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:43 PM
|
|
QUOTE(periuknasi @ Dec 12 2024, 04:14 PM) for a final sendoff, toss at front of ship. if ship got catapult, even better...
|
|
|
|
|
|
cheryee
|
Dec 12 2024, 04:58 PM
|
|
If you have 1 mil in epf, interest at 5.5% p.a. = 55,000 @ +- 4,500 per mth hence you don’t even need to touch the principal amount.
|
|
|
|
|
|
rcracer
|
Dec 12 2024, 05:18 PM
|
|
Welp I guess I'm ok already
|
|
|
|
|
|
tahfeikei
|
Dec 12 2024, 05:19 PM
|
|
then how is a single worker earning rm 1500 per month going to survive???
|
|
|
|
|
|
nelson969
|
Dec 12 2024, 05:20 PM
|
|
QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Dec 12 2024, 05:19 PM) then how is a single worker earning rm 1500 per month going to survive??? epf close eye on this one hahahaha, it is their own world kekw
|
|
|
|
|
|
cuddlybubblyteddy
|
Dec 12 2024, 05:23 PM
|
Getting Started

|
U gave my mum rm2.5k a month, she still said it’s not enough.
|
|
|
|
|