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TSd0raem0n P
post Dec 7 2024, 11:20 PM, updated 2y ago

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Hi, so we have been using version 1.9 of autocount for many years.

E-invoice requirements basically force us to get the latest version of autocount.

In order to get e-invoicing features with autocount, apparently you have to repurchase the entire autocount software at a high price.

You cannot just buy autocount’s e-invoice module separately. If you want to use autocount’s e-invoice module, you have to buy the entire software again.

I heard that autocount’s competitors like SQL do allow you to purchase just their e-invoicing module for a small fee.

So, for Premium version of autocount, we are being charged RM9,000 just for the software. Each user then costs RM1,050. After all the supposed discounts, with 14 users it equals RM12,000 to RM14,000.

For basic version, price is RM4,200 and each user costs RM950.

We tried asking different resellers to quote us, but apparently they have to refer to autocount hq before quoting us. Maybe this is for them to know how much we paid for autocount in the past, and to make sure they charge us the same or more (and not less). All resellers we approached have so far charged us around the same, high price.

My question is, are you also being charged around this price for premium and basic package, or are we being ripped off?

Appreciate if you can provide me your pricing/quotation structure so we can compare.
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post Dec 7 2024, 11:22 PM

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I’m willing to share our official quotations received if anyone wants to compare
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post Dec 7 2024, 11:34 PM

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post Dec 7 2024, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(d0raem0n @ Dec 7 2024, 11:22 PM)
I’m willing to share our official quotations received if anyone wants to compare
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I would like to compare.
but i will only get my quotation by Tues/Weds next week.
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post Dec 8 2024, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(d0raem0n @ Dec 7 2024, 04:20 PM)
I heard that autocount’s competitors like SQL do allow you to purchase just their e-invoicing module for a small fee.
Yes. About RM 1100 for the module.

After paying out large sum in 2015 for the GST software, it is inconsiderate of PH government to force people to spend more on software for the eInvoice


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post Dec 8 2024, 11:12 AM

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why don't you subscribe to those monthly package like, RM100 per month or RM1000 per year also ada. Then each users = RM10 per month or RM15.

Then you do not need to worry about future upgrade or changes in accounting/tax framework.
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post Dec 9 2024, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(d0raem0n @ Dec 7 2024, 11:20 PM)
Hi, so we have been using version 1.9 of autocount for many years.

E-invoice requirements basically force us to get the latest version of autocount.

In order to get e-invoicing features with autocount, apparently you have to repurchase the entire autocount software at a high price.

You cannot just buy autocount’s e-invoice module separately. If you want to use autocount’s e-invoice module, you have to buy the entire software again.

I heard that autocount’s competitors like SQL do allow you to purchase just their e-invoicing module for a small fee.

So, for Premium version of autocount, we are being charged RM9,000 just for the software. Each user then costs RM1,050. After all the supposed discounts, with 14 users it equals RM12,000 to RM14,000.

For basic version, price is RM4,200 and each user costs RM950.

We tried asking different resellers to quote us, but apparently they have to refer to autocount hq before quoting us. Maybe this is for them to know how much we paid for autocount in the past, and to make sure they charge us the same or more (and not less). All resellers we approached have so far charged us around the same, high price.

My question is, are you also being charged around this price for premium and basic package, or are we being ripped off?

Appreciate if you can provide me your pricing/quotation structure so we can compare.
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The price is quite common even if u opt for other software provider, to give u a headstart, they are charging normal cloud accounting with about RM100+ monthly per user. Premium one could be slightly higher. SQL is quoting about RM100+ cloud accounting for premium feature.

If u opt to migrate out, your staff might need to re-train and incurred higher cost due to training, now u need to think back whether migrating to another software is cost and time feasible for your company. Even if u migrate to another company, u will eventually bind by them.


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post Dec 9 2024, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Dec 8 2024, 11:10 AM)
Yes. About RM 1100 for the module.

After paying out large sum in 2015 for the GST software, it is inconsiderate of PH government to force people to spend more on software for the eInvoice
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Yes, that’s why it just feels like Autocount is just trying to take advantage.

I don’t mind paying for an e-invoice module separately, but to force us to buy the entire software again just sounds abit too much..
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post Dec 9 2024, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 8 2024, 11:12 AM)
why don't you subscribe to those monthly package like, RM100 per month or RM1000 per year also ada. Then each users = RM10 per month or RM15.

Then you do not need to worry about future upgrade or changes in accounting/tax framework.
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If they’re going to force their one-off payment users to buy the entire thing again, they could make their monthly users pay more for future upgrades or changes in accounting/tax framework.

The point is that one-off is one-off, period.
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post Dec 9 2024, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 9 2024, 09:52 AM)
The price is quite common even if u opt for other software provider, to give u a headstart, they are charging normal cloud accounting with about RM100+ monthly per user. Premium one could be slightly higher. SQL is quoting about RM100+ cloud accounting for premium feature.

If u opt to migrate out, your staff might need to re-train and incurred higher cost due to training, now u need to think back whether migrating to another software is cost and time feasible for your company. Even if u migrate to another company, u will eventually bind by them.
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The problem is, Autocount forces you to buy the entire software again just for the e-invoice module, whereas competitors like SQL allow you to buy only the e-invoice module as an add on. It’s a huge difference in price
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post Dec 9 2024, 10:50 PM

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Just change provider. Alot nowadays
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post Dec 10 2024, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(d0raem0n @ Dec 9 2024, 10:38 PM)
The problem is, Autocount forces you to buy the entire software again just for the e-invoice module, whereas competitors like SQL allow you to buy only the e-invoice module as an add on. It’s a huge difference in price
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It could be the version u paying is older version and not compatible for e-invoice module, again we don't know.

If u find it expensive, try source another accounting software and compare it. Accounting software market is slowly moving to monthly/yearly subscription basis with cloud accounting.

RM1k+ per user for one off is quite reasonable for me, don't tell me u got 7 users and not willing to fork out RM10k for the software upgrade? Even Windows also has shelf life period and forcing u buy a new one.
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QUOTE(d0raem0n @ Dec 7 2024, 11:20 PM)
Hi, so we have been using version 1.9 of autocount for many years.

E-invoice requirements basically force us to get the latest version of autocount.

In order to get e-invoicing features with autocount, apparently you have to repurchase the entire autocount software at a high price.

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Appreciate if you can provide me your pricing/quotation structure so we can compare.
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hello there!
fellow autobotcount user here, we recently - like legit, 2 weeks ago - updated our software to accommodate the e-invoice functions laugh.gif
so for the entirety of the "upgrade to version 2.0", we paid a total RM 7,500./-, that's for 5 companies/acct. profile (not users) (and yes, headache af sia) sweat.gif

SQL :
been to few SQL e-invoice seminars - cause lhdn every now and then still updating/changing the e-invoice thingamajiggy, so yeah, they do promote the upgrade for their own modules but i can't recall the prices sweat.gif
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post Dec 12 2024, 03:08 PM

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It all depending on the function/module you have now.

SQL also need you to sign up the support package in order to upgrade newest version plus buy the E-Inv module. Each company E-Inv module roughly Rm1k 1 time payment.

Since you have 14 users, I suppose your company are heavy in transactions. you need to ask, can SQL or Autocount or others can handle your transactions now and in the future?
You might take these chances to upgrade to higher spec software.

This post has been edited by Iceman74: Dec 12 2024, 03:09 PM
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post Dec 12 2024, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(d0raem0n @ Dec 7 2024, 11:20 PM)
Hi, so we have been using version 1.9 of autocount for many years.

E-invoice requirements basically force us to get the latest version of autocount.

In order to get e-invoicing features with autocount, apparently you have to repurchase the entire autocount software at a high price.

You cannot just buy autocount’s e-invoice module separately. If you want to use autocount’s e-invoice module, you have to buy the entire software again.

I heard that autocount’s competitors like SQL do allow you to purchase just their e-invoicing module for a small fee.

So, for Premium version of autocount, we are being charged RM9,000 just for the software. Each user then costs RM1,050. After all the supposed discounts, with 14 users it equals RM12,000 to RM14,000.

For basic version, price is RM4,200 and each user costs RM950.

We tried asking different resellers to quote us, but apparently they have to refer to autocount hq before quoting us. Maybe this is for them to know how much we paid for autocount in the past, and to make sure they charge us the same or more (and not less). All resellers we approached have so far charged us around the same, high price.

My question is, are you also being charged around this price for premium and basic package, or are we being ripped off?

Appreciate if you can provide me your pricing/quotation structure so we can compare.
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oh my. that's such a rip-off. here i am considering to change to autocount since my company accountant prefer it. plus, quickbook dont have its own e-invoice module.
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post Dec 12 2024, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(codenchips @ Dec 7 2024, 11:51 PM)
I would like to compare.
but i will only get my quotation by Tues/Weds next week.
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Hey have you received your official quotation?
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post Dec 12 2024, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 10 2024, 02:52 PM)
It could be the version u paying is older version and not compatible for e-invoice module, again we don't know.

If u find it expensive, try source another accounting software and compare it. Accounting software market is slowly moving to monthly/yearly subscription basis with cloud accounting.

RM1k+ per user for one off is quite reasonable for me, don't tell me u got 7 users and not willing to fork out RM10k for the software upgrade? Even Windows also has shelf life period and forcing u buy a new one.
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Maybe I didn’t make it clearer, but we already paid one-off like 3 times. How many one-offs do we need to pay?

 

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