https://www.sinchew.com.my/news/20241130/nation/6114018

(Petaling Jaya, 30th) – A study conducted by the Tun Tan Cheng Lock Centre for Social and Policy Studies (TCLC) at Universiti Tunku Abdul Rahman (UTAR) reveals that only about one-third (34.88%) of the surveyed Chinese Malaysian youth firmly reject the concept of “lying flat.”

The report highlights that the rapid economic and social changes in Malaysia have led to a growing trend of “lying flat” among the Chinese Malaysian youth. This trend is reflected in the findings, where 9.81% of respondents explicitly choose to lie flat.

“Meanwhile, 55.32% of respondents are uncertain whether to embrace lying flat, indicating they may consider it in the future. This worrying trend warrants close attention from the Chinese community, especially when compared with previous studies.”

367 Participants Aged 16 to 30
The center conducted an online survey over the past four weeks to explore the awareness and inclination toward “lying flat” among Chinese youth and the root causes of this mindset. A total of 367 Chinese Malaysians aged 16 to 30 participated in the study.

The report found that women (41.42%) are more likely to choose lying flat compared to men (23.71%). Among the respondents, 60.76% were female, and 39.24% were male.

Shift Toward Low Productivity and Low Competition Values
The study highlights a shift in Chinese Malaysian culture from traditional values emphasizing hard work, productivity, and competition to a preference for low productivity and low competition.

“The increasing popularity of lying flat among Chinese Malaysian youth may be linked to a broader cultural shift toward individualism and autonomy, a trend commonly observed in modern societies.”

The report also examined youth perspectives on work, education, marriage, family, and personal life to better understand their inclination toward lying flat.

Desire for Autonomy and Independence is the Main Cause
Findings reveal that the most significant predictors of lying flat come from perspectives on education (24%), marriage (23%), and family (23%) compared to work (13%) and personal life (17%).

“This indicates that the primary driver behind lying flat is the desire for personal autonomy and independence, especially in areas like education, relationships, and family responsibilities.”

51% Prioritize Enjoying Life Over Job Stability
From a work perspective, the report states that 50.73% of respondents believe enjoying life is more important than ensuring long-term job stability. This indicates a potential shift in Chinese cultural emphasis on achievement and career development.

“However, 43.05% of respondents still believe that high-paying jobs bring genuine happiness, reflecting a more nuanced view of work-life balance.”

Lying Flat Topics Common in Personal Life
The survey found that more than half of the respondents frequently discuss lying flat with peers, and 57.71% adopt aspects of the lying flat lifestyle in their personal lives.

“Additionally, a significant portion (47.6%) believes lying flat aligns with their personal values, driving their acceptance of the lifestyle.”

Preference for Individualism Over Family Obligations
The report notes that a significant number of Chinese Malaysian youth prioritize personal autonomy and independence over family obligations and social norms in the context of family and marriage.

For example, 79.52% of respondents believe society overemphasizes academic achievement. Furthermore, 73.12% disagree that marriage and family are life’s ultimate goals.
Additionally, 76.35% feel that making independent life choices is more important than meeting family expectations.

A Passive Mentality Behind Lying Flat
The report reveals that many respondents clarified that lying flat was not their original intention. Instead, it often resulted from a sense of resignation after persistent efforts failed to meet expectations. In other words, the choice to lie flat often stems from a passive mentality.

Lying Flat Reflects a Detachment Mentality
The report concludes that lying flat has become a subcultural phenomenon among younger generations. At its core, lying flat means doing the bare minimum to get by, avoiding efforts beyond basic survival needs.

“It represents a detachment mentality, aiming to withdraw from societal pressures to be productive members. Whether it’s educational achievements, homeownership, or family-building, some in society would rather lie flat.”


A.) lying flat mean

-personal rejection of societal pressures to overwork and over-achieve, such as in the 996 working hour system, which is often regarded as a rat race with ever diminishing returns.

TLDR : just rot in bed and do nothing



TLDR for the articles : lying flat for youngster

This post has been edited by nelson969: Dec 6 2024, 05:43 PM

why?

Wat is lying flat?

Don't think our Youth can lie flat, we are not at the stress levels of Far East Countries yet.

personal rejection of societal pressures to overwork and over-achieve, such as in the 996 working hour system, which is often regarded as a rat race with ever diminishing returns.

TLDR : just rot in bed and do nothing

Talk cock la, Talibansia already lay flat from day 1
7 day work 3 1/2 days
1 week late for work many many time.
1 month sick few time
1 year father die morher die nenek die atuk die
Last last missing makan ULAR everyday.

Yolo no need work. Enjoy life hghhhhhh.zhut zhut girl.

Chinese community see 33% decline in marriages
https://thesun.my/malaysia-news/chinese-com...tzin-DE12709390

Sedara mara setahun tatau kena mati brape kali, tahun depan idup balik to mati again ... repeat every year.

I don't know about lying flat but I do see that nobody wants to be manager anymore.

They want to be kuli only but paid manager salary.

Burnout after years of the kiasu mentality.

Work hard doesn't guarantee success
But people forgotten don't work hard , one might die in hunger.

But can fap first right?

capitlalism makes working live hard and unfair, raises poverty with inflation so many working can't make a decent living so they lie flat.
another reason for MY is majority gets subsidy and study religion instead of STEM or TVET then cannot get high paying jobs, so lie flat.

if parents rich why not, i would lay flat too

if anyone have the money to sustain themselves, anyone would just lie flat
believe it's called retirement
simple chikin rice also cost like RM10 in most parts of KL, how to continue lie flat indefinitely

This is what happening when the young realized they are fighting a losing race. Many young people are indeed concerned that the money they are saving today may not be enough to sustain them later in life due to rising living costs, inflation, and uncertain financial markets.

while lying flat would just mean they choose to to adopt a more minimalist, passive lifestyle, rejecting the idea of relentless competition or striving for material success. not the misconception of doing anything and rot on bed.

good, less competition for us

Flat is justice

A Passive Mentality Behind Lying Flat.

The report reveals that many respondents clarified that lying flat was not their original intention. Instead, it often resulted from a sense of resignation after persistent efforts failed to meet expectations. In other words, the choice to lie flat often stems from a passive mentality.

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Dec 7 2024, 12:13 AM

I want lie on my kiut lil sis flat chest

Owai-

Good. Save the planet.

Ular mengular kan budayo kito.

I'm almost one of them.

Sold everything and currently test building own living space in an old MPV with reclaimed materials from job sites.

Too lazy to chase further knowingly u won't get it. If I want anything, it will be mostly used.

nowadays youngster all hope to be famous tiktoker youtuber crypto buy RM10 hit RM1,000,000 , kena lottery

most ppl been thru that
and now come out to work

Lying flat while still young, when retired age terus lying dead.

Tell me TS honestly from your own point of view, if you're a wage earner and a midlifer who is a victim of recent economic uncertainty, do you feel that you can make major changes to your own life or fate?

Buried in loans, hiring mostly only for younger applicants below 35yo, low salary offers, most other countries also uncertain flooded by migrants with same aim as everyone you and me, no money to start own business which is also uncertain, employers expect you to sell your soul to the company with peanuts pay, for the Non, opportunity is limited.

What you want to do?

I think only kids of above avg parents can afford 2 lay flat… cos they knoe they can get leech off parents n eventually inherit parents assets….. if dirt poor kids lay flat = reali eat dirt lol…

This post has been edited by TiramisuCoffee: Dec 7 2024, 07:37 PM

yes i also somewhat been practicing this lying flat

keep working

Better lying on the bed drilling hole

Lie flat culture is not early retirement or lazy work attitude.

Lie flat apply to younger gen that has yet to achieve anything, hasn’t manage to buy a house or married. They chose not to pursue job promotion (due to fierce competition) and buying house (too expensive). They already see it pointless to put in effort beyond normal performance of their job, this is called lie flat.

We Malaysian already have this culture long time ago.
Our friends here forgot to trademark it…aiya

Keep working if you have a job. But what if you've not and non that worked?

How to keep working when there's little opportunity in employment and your age is not preferable in recruitment?

Start own business? That requires capital and in today's market aren't you afraid you'll end up even more in debt?

Not just the young, the mid-lifers who are recently retrenced and the early retiring Gen X/boomers also contributed to the failing economy of the country.

by 2030... we will see alot pepolz lying flat permanently...

I guess some can. Grandparents got property and parents got property. Just inherit, don't have any kids and relax.

yup that's thing too do not have kids. Younger gen tend not to have kids anymore citing the higher cost in fostering younger ones.
Instead of bring another live and suffer together. They chose to end the suffering here.
If WW3 not happening soon, birth rate is never gonna bounce back.

If that’s your definition then u can count me in.

our salary almost stagnant like 20 years ago

with these kids under rm2K celery cant expect them to get rm80K flat like 20 years ago

so just live life like a zombie, that's why the splurged more on fnb, travels more these days

What else do you look forward too if you're in such situation?

Unless you have too much testosterone and seeks thrills and risks, join the military in Middle East or Ukraine?

Spending large amount of money on travel and YOLO, what if all the money spent and you return penny-less how are you going to continue living?

Lying low is still the WISEST option.

Micro usb 4w 21s apo susah. (gisbh)
天生天养
lol

This is exactly what SMEs in the country is doing operating at min capex, hire the youngest, most energetic, lowest asking salary just to keep operation afloat.

When youth is in such situation you expect them to be "excited" and look forward in life?

SG is retrenching, all the western countries look like slums and growing homeless. Go outside the country no future prospect, stay in country also no prospect.

If don't lie flat to minimize spending, then expect them to yolo by gambling their life away?

Our government never analyze carefully before release reports like this.

That;s why we need more bangla to increase working population.

Because the economic value chain ain't generating yet the conveyors keep batching out.

Nothing new created. Unlike the new industrialisation embarkment back then. It gotta to be concrete new road map, new pathway embarkment.

Not merely slogan, tag line 20xy

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Dec 8 2024, 10:40 AM

This

Its more like quiet quitting, just don't work like a dog, 9-5 job

Some also work min wage job, every few years gov increase min pay, while you earn 2.5k after few years baru up RM50 not to mention fresh grad newcomers come in at 3k while lower rank than you lol

We need a Great Reset

Whether it's WW3, Rise of AI, anything

tbh sometimes i also think lie flat is good

some old geezers sudah got grandchildren also mau open a new shop near my main street...haih...hair white white ardy mau mati ardy also mau rampas my rice bowl. cant even leave me in peace

sometimes, u know the chinese community did this to themselves aint no one to blame except those old timers

This post has been edited by FappyBird: Dec 7 2024, 10:40 PM

Dia mau start up kasi cucu ma

most fnb banyak pandai now, offering part timer like rm8-rm9 per hour, 5 hours job

8X5X26=1040 already jimat a lot

then sell f&b stuff at exorbitant price

teh c @ rm8? u betcha!

-----

then accused our youth of being lazy bums. u tell me lah with that kind of celery, what kind of life they can dream off?

this.

thing is, not everyone can be a successful businessmen.

those retired geezers ramai liddat. after retired got epf/golden handshake then look around see one fella open bubble tea/bakery/etc got customers then wahhh I should do the same too.

then start poaching staff from the competitors.

then start micromanaged ppl.

then when the trend changed start complaining why my business no customers

I already lying flat since like over 10 years ago, lying flat simply because i can afford to lay flat pretty comfortably.

Pick wrong group of sample to survey

And what's the point of the survey?

This post has been edited by Ayambetul: Dec 8 2024, 10:12 AM

declining birth rates is a major sign look at China/ S. Korea/ SG/ Japan

I have been lying flat too, less commitment, minimalist life, cook more at home, hardly buy anything

Still trying to make more money, just not chasing after material success in the rat race...

Better find inner peace and enjoy the show as our late stage capitalism collapse/ reset

that's what the youngsters do nowadays

healing with fnb and travels

Lying flat needs qualification like have rich parents or sugarmummy …

In China, alot cause parents have one child so the child get income sources from both parents …

In Msia, can have 2 kids, disown the one that useless parasite …

Most corporate retiree, have nothing to do post retirement, got money then they go all out doing business, from observation, 99% failure rate.

PaMa who have worked hard wins..

Continue to whine la.. Next lay die trend is not too far

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Dec 8 2024, 11:10 AM

Usually this group of people lack of farsight … some may
want their parents die fast so they can get their insurance money … to buy things they like …. while parents still alive probably will complain parents are poor unable to support their luxury lifestyle… blame parents to even gave birth to them all …

People who do not get things thru hardship wont understand the difficulties to get money …

Imagine a whole generation of people with similar mindset running the country when the boomers are all gone.

Just make sure you dont live to see that … what happened after no need to care …

That is another reason why AI and robotics are important, to replace useless of this generations to continue sustain the world … as temporary guardian while another new useful generation emerges …

When the next next generation becomes poor jobless then will rise again as a strong useful generations …

Whiners blame ALL under the sun

Your last para is very true. Likewise to their education pathway. Those who had their education 'a given' will not appreciate their qualification.

This group will also expect a career, salary matching their qualification, 'a given' until kena wake up slap into their face to reality.

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Dec 8 2024, 12:08 PM

Lol...he ain't corporate slave I think, and his mode of business really tohsuikah. Name his restaurant Klang bak kut teh but includes claypot chicken rice steam fish and many more laplapzapzap stuffs. Thing is he got so many menus he employ how many workers. See if ppl dun sp him he die or not.

I mean, this street ardy got few bkt shops then dun sell bkt la market ain't good anyways but his price per portion lagi hamkachan, we everyone here sell either 12 to 13rm per portion he sell at rm16 for soup and rm17 for dry one.

Cibai, old till whole head white still wan a piece of this decaying pie.

Malaysia should claim UNESCO cultural heritage recognition for being the original lying flat country, locals don't work so pendatang had to be imported to work since last few hundred years