Hi
my admin staff MIL passed away
staff attending funeral
how many days compassionate leave is fair?
TIA
Compassionate leave, your opinion please
Compassionate leave, your opinion please
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Nov 23 2024, 08:30 AM, updated 2y ago
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my admin staff MIL passed away staff attending funeral how many days compassionate leave is fair? TIA |
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Nov 23 2024, 08:36 AM
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Depends on who is the deceased to your staff. If immediate, 5 days. Else, 1 to 2 days is more than enuff. HolyValkyrie, gugukrez, and 2 others liked this post
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Nov 23 2024, 08:39 AM
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Nov 23 2024, 08:41 AM
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Nov 23 2024, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Nov 23 2024, 08:30 AM) Hi 7 days for immediate my admin staff MIL passed away staff attending funeral how many days compassionate leave is fair? TIA If not 3-5 ok la This post has been edited by sadlyfalways: Nov 23 2024, 08:59 AM Rusty Nail, mystvearn, and 1 other liked this post
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Nov 23 2024, 08:59 AM
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Put yourself in the exact same position as your staff, and think how many days of leave you would need. Then use that as your guide.
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Nov 23 2024, 09:04 AM
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Nov 23 2024, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Nov 23 2024, 09:04 AM) Have a chat with your staff on how long they need. In cases like this if she has to take care of the kids and some family members whilst her husband does the funeral preparation, it does take time. |
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Nov 23 2024, 09:08 AM
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Nov 23 2024, 09:11 AM
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HR policy no mention? In all my companies that I worked, parents in law passed away will have 3 days CL.
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Nov 23 2024, 09:12 AM
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Nov 23 2024, 10:25 AM
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Depends on their religion of their wake ritual, many up to 3 days, few goes up to 7 days.
Such leave is optional so depend the company, between 1 to 3 or 2 to 5 days (paid or unpaid) |
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Nov 23 2024, 10:36 AM
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Nov 23 2024, 11:24 AM
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Some company even big glc only 3 days for immediate family as in kids and husband, meaning if grandmother and mil totally tadak have to take own leave. Anyways I'd say 2-3 if u feel like u really want give. But bear in mind everyone will expect the same later on, it becomes a precedent. This post has been edited by dest9116: Nov 23 2024, 11:24 AM HolyValkyrie and tahfeikei liked this post
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Nov 23 2024, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Nov 23 2024, 11:24 AM) Some company even big glc only 3 days for immediate family as in kids and husband, meaning if grandmother and mil totally tadak have to take own leave. True,Anyways I'd say 2-3 if u feel like u really want give. But bear in mind everyone will expect the same later on, it becomes a precedent. But not everyday someone's immediate family pass away. Just use your own judgement la kalau small company. tahfeikei liked this post
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Nov 23 2024, 11:30 AM
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My company gives 10 days compassionate leave per annum, but restrict it in such a way:
Compassionate shouldn't exceed 3 consecutive working days per event. |
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Nov 23 2024, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Nov 23 2024, 11:24 AM) Some company even big glc only 3 days for immediate family as in kids and husband, meaning if grandmother and mil totally tadak have to take own leave. Yes GLCs mostly restrict it to 3 days per event, as per my experience. However in my experience, most will cover MIL and FIL...however do not cover any other relation on the spouse side (e.g. sibling, grandparents etc). Anyways I'd say 2-3 if u feel like u really want give. But bear in mind everyone will expect the same later on, it becomes a precedent. Staff can still take EL if they want, but it will eat into their AL allocation. This post has been edited by contestchris: Nov 23 2024, 11:33 AM Raddus liked this post
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Nov 23 2024, 11:34 AM
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Even 1 day is good enough. Those with 2 - 3 days are great. Some companies don't even have compassionate leave. Not written in contract. House flood, burnt down, passed away still need to work unless deduct AL/UL and you still need to answer boss' message. tahfeikei liked this post
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Nov 23 2024, 12:13 PM
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At least 2 days la...just close one eyes la (not everyday ppl die, right?), ....else he/she will also black face/throw tantrum/MC/cincai do job too.... tahfeikei liked this post
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Nov 23 2024, 09:07 AM) Have a chat with your staff on how long they need. In cases like this if she has to take care of the kids and some family members whilst her husband does the funeral preparation, it does take time. THIS. It's best to talk things out to get a clear picture of the bereaved's situation, travel distance to the funeral rites, length of the funeral rites and time required to settle matters. In the past I've given 1 month compassionate leave to a dutiful employee of 8 years who was never late and never taken a sick day. tahfeikei liked this post
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Nov 23 2024, 01:18 PM
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Nov 23 2024, 01:20 PM
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Give 3 days. If they need to travel hometown, will need time too. She still need to take care of the kids and stuffs tahfeikei liked this post
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2-3 days. tahfeikei liked this post
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normal max 3 days. anything more ask them to take EL tahfeikei liked this post
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Nov 23 2024, 02:21 PM
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check with your HR...
my old firm... 3 days.. the staff can take own personal leaves to extend. |
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Gomen 3 days auto. After that add own holiday.
My big boss took 2 weeks off. Another only took the 3 days and started working. A bit ackward to talk to since most will take a week off |
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2-3 day nia, 3 day max, is not even immediate pun, if immediate is 1 week or even 2 week. tahfeikei liked this post
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https://www.ajobthing.com/resources/blog/co...-hr-in-malaysia
In case you're wondering, there's no compassionate leave under the Employment Act, so 0 wouldn't get you in legal trouble. Most companies however give around 2-3 days, and for immediate family members only. |
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Nov 23 2024, 08:14 PM
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Generally its 3 days but for a small company where we ask staffs to multi task many things, tend to show a little bit more compassion, so they tend to give a week. tahfeikei liked this post
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Nov 23 2024, 10:08 PM
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Mil is not immediate family. Normally big mnc company will give zero. Lel. Sometimes work with small company direct with business owner is better eventhough not glamour & so-so benefits. Ts, have u decide to give how many days?
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QUOTE(forgotoldlogin @ Nov 23 2024, 10:08 PM) Mil is not immediate family. Normally big mnc company will give zero. Lel. Sometimes work with small company direct with business owner is better eventhough not glamour & so-so benefits. Ts, have u decide to give how many days? 4 daysthank you all for your help!!! forgotoldlogin liked this post
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « your company dont have policy for this is it? you can 'tiru' Govt policy on this matter (applicable for Govt servant) - and modify a bit. QUOTE PELAKSANAAN 5. Kemudahan Cuti Tanpa Rekod bagi urusan kematian ahli keluarga terdekat hendaklah dilaksanakan seperti yang berikut: (i) kemudahan ini diberikan selama tiga (3) hari berturut-turut sebagai Cuti Tanpa Rekod kepada pegawai Perkhidmatan Awam untuk membuat apa-apa urusan pengebumian jenazah ahli keluarga terdekat itu dan untuk membantu waris-waris jenazah tersebut untuk urusan-urusan lain yang berkaitan; (ii) bagi maksud kemudahan yang diperuntukkan untuk urusan kematian ibu mentua atau bapa mentua, kemudahan ini adalah terhad bagi seorang ibu mentua dan seorang bapa mentua sahaja sepanjang tempoh perkhidmatan Kerajaan; SOS: https://docs.jpa.gov.my/docs/pp/2015/pp042015.pdf |
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QUOTE(forgotoldlogin @ Nov 23 2024, 10:08 PM) Mil is not immediate family. Normally big mnc company will give zero. Lel. Sometimes work with small company direct with business owner is better eventhough not glamour & so-so benefits. Ts, have u decide to give how many days? Mother-in-Law is 'immediate family' as defined by Government below:QUOTE "TAFSIRAN 4. Dalam Pekeliling Perkhidmatan ini - ‘ahli keluarga terdekat’ bermaksud suami, isteri, ibu kandung atau ibu angkat 1, bapa kandung atau bapa angkat 2, ibu mentua, bapa mentua, anak kandung, anak angkat yang sah di sisi undang-undang, anak angkat de facto dan anak pelihara.' " SOS: https://docs.jpa.gov.my/docs/pp/2015/pp042015.pdf This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Nov 24 2024, 12:53 PM |
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Nov 24 2024, 12:51 PM) Mother-in-Law is 'immediate family' as defined by Government below: I said mnc not government servant. Since when they follow gov servant. By that logic can get also get same annual leave and paid study leave, paid sponser continue master phd with paid salarySOS: https://docs.jpa.gov.my/docs/pp/2015/pp042015.pdf |
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QUOTE(forgotoldlogin @ Nov 23 2024, 10:08 PM) Mil is not immediate family. Normally big mnc company will give zero. Lel. Sometimes work with small company direct with business owner is better eventhough not glamour & so-so benefits. Ts, have u decide to give how many days? hmmm interesting, my experience with MNCs, they do provide CL to In-Laws.My current place, even provides to next-of kin as well. This post has been edited by VeeJay: Nov 25 2024, 08:18 PM |
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