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post Nov 17 2024, 11:40 PM, updated 2y ago

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Indonesia to return autonomous rail rapid transit (ART) units to China

JAKARTA: Indonesia will return Chinese-made autonomous rail rapid transit (ART) trains after the trains failed to operate autonomously during trials in September and October in the future capital city Nusantara.

A cross between a train, a tram and a bus, ART is an intelligent public transport system that uses sensors and rubber wheels and can operate with or without a track.

The transport system is produced by state-owned manufacturer China Railway Rolling Stock Corporation (CRRC).

Tonny Agus Setiono, the IKN Authority's director of digital ecosystem development, said the authority was still discussing the plan to return the ART train units to China with the Transportation Ministry.

"The return will be carried out this year. However, it depends on the Transportation Ministry whether to continue [the project] or not," Tonny said on Nov 9, as quoted by kompas.com.

The IKN Authority conducted a trial on the ART train from Sept 12 to Oct 22 in Nusantara’s Central Government District (KIPP) along a route that passes coordinating minister offices one to four, East Nationhood Axis and West Nationhood Axis.

Meanwhile, Mohammed Ali Berawi, IKN Authority green and digital transformation deputy said the assessment team found that the autonomous mode was not performing as expected because manual intervention from the driver was still required in emergency situations.

He also noted that drivers still needed to keep their hands on the steering wheel and be ready to switch from automatic to manual control.

Additionally, there was no speed or braking plan for specific routes or any programmable route control.

The autonomous braking system also failed to demonstrate the ability to automatically brake, slow down or issue warnings when obstacles or objects crossed in front of the train.

"This shows that the developer is not confident enough in the reliability of its autonomous control system," Ali told kompas.com on Nov 7.

In response to the plan to return the ART unit, the Transportation Ministry said the government would not suffer any loss if the project was stopped because the ART vendor bore the trial costs.

Ministry spokesperson Budi Rahardjo said that his office has no issue if the evaluation results from the IKN Authority show that the autonomous train does not meet the required standards.

"If the ART is found not to meet the evaluation standards set by the IKN Authority, it's not a problem because the state won’t lose anything," Budi said on Nov 6, as quoted by Antara.

The ministry’s railway director general Risal Wasal said on Thursday that the train system was not up to specifications set by the IKN Authority and that the results of proof of concept showed that the autonomous system did not function well.

The development of ART in Nusantara was initiated by then-transportation minister Budi Karya Sumadi after he made a visit to China in mid-January, which included a stop at the CRRC.

The procurement project of three ART units is worth Rp 210 billion (US$ 13.2 million).

Budi said in January that each train would carry 307 passengers and could utilise public roads instead of relying on a dedicated track.

Despite having a top speed of 70 kilometers per hour, it will be operated at 40 kph.

Besides Nusantara, Budi also set plans to develop the ART system to combat traffic congestion in Bali’s tourist hotspot of Kuta.

The announcement came only days before Budi ended his tenure as transportation minister.

The ART projects in Nusantara and Bali mark the third time Indonesia has chosen Chinese trains for its public transit system.

Indonesia has built a notable relationship with China in developing train infrastructure, starting with the Whoosh high-speed railway (HSR) from Jakarta to Bandung, which started operations in October of 2023 after years of construction delays.

A subsidiary of state-owned railway operator PT Kereta Api Indonesia (KAI) signed an agreement in February with CRRC Sifang Co. Ltd. to purchase three trains for Rp 783 billion, which it would use to replace the aging fleet of the Greater Jakarta Commuter Line.

Previously, Indonesia relied on Japanese trains for its commuter train services.

Similarly, the country once chose Japan to work on its HSR project before it switched to China. - The Jakarta Post/ANN

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanp...-units-to-china
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Japan quality > China quality

But of course, more expensive. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
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So.....about Sarawak hydrogen stuff

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/1040...rams-from-china


"Our ART project (autonomous rapid transport) in Kuching will proceed as planned and we have confirmed the purchase of 38 hydrogen-powered trams from China.

"They will arrive in batches in Sarawak.

"China stopped using such trams due to low demand and competition from other forms of public transport in China," he said.



Alamak......
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https://careta.my/article/indonesia-akan-pu...-art-pada-china?

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i wonder why it couldn't operasi... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(soul78 @ Nov 18 2024, 06:10 PM)
i wonder why it couldn't operasi... whistling.gif
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must ask petpenyubobo. PRC's ambassador

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But but if China train fail, why our LRT train still operating?
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Nov 18 2024, 06:13 PM)
But but if China train fail, why our LRT train still operating?
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ours from germany right ? 🤔
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Nov 18 2024, 06:13 PM)
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this one is bus, not train. no use u summon kampung2005
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Nov 18 2024, 06:13 PM)
But but if China train fail, why our LRT train still operating?
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bcoz CCP still rike us velli much...

no fight much with islands contension.. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(soul78 @ Nov 18 2024, 06:10 PM)
i wonder why it couldn't operasi... whistling.gif
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it must be not due to the way Indonesia people style of very "nicely" driving skills that causing the ART AI to be overwhelmed.
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Gagal beroperasi secara autonomi means Indonesia kena dupe by CCCP

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cukur, boleh return n refund
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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Nov 18 2024, 06:22 PM)
Gagal beroperasi secara autonomi means Indonesia kena dupe by CCCP
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Nov 17 2024, 11:58 PM)
So.....about Sarawak hydrogen stuff

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/1040...rams-from-china
"Our ART project (autonomous rapid transport) in Kuching will proceed as planned and we have confirmed the purchase of 38 hydrogen-powered trams from China.

"They will arrive in batches in Sarawak.

"China stopped using such trams due to low demand and competition from other forms of public transport in China," he said.

Alamak......
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Can feel it is going to be a white elephant.
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Read the news.

It is reported that the train failed for automatic driving expectations, as it still require driver to standby and holding the steering.

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