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 Residensi Wilayah JSatin, Block C crack, structural failure

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Silfer
post Nov 8 2024, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Nov 8 2024, 07:13 AM)
aiyo.. this type of crack sap sap sui lah.. most like one the collum failure or pile cap failed

do underpinning and top up which parking to floor level again

do steel framing or hydralic support and then pump conconrete (Grade 45) to recast the wall

the bent brc reinforced with A8 or A10 BRC
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sounds good but even i not confident to stay after rectification. most proper and surekill to gain confident of customer and PR is demolish whole block and re-do.
that crack looks like structure failure on that part / section which could probably means the whole zone which was casted in that area got weak ass concrete (probably failed slump).

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post Nov 8 2024, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Nov 8 2024, 03:28 PM)
demo and redo the entire block? even if they've completed 20 or 30 floors? 😮
i've always wondered when looking at those nearly completed high-rise, what if the first floor suddenly experienced a critical structural failure? better to abandon the project, patch up the issue, or redo the whole thing..
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they would try to do the repair as per the other suggested. then maybe add on some compensation or some shit (90% lousy compensation).
since now DBKL closed the site, we shall see what's the next directive from them.

QUOTE(victorian @ Nov 8 2024, 04:19 PM)
cannot la, even if the project is abandoned buyer still has to bear the resposibility
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now still like this ka? macam heard they want implement the law to protect buyer from these kind of shit.
https://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-gu...hat-to-do-22958

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post Nov 11 2024, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Haru97 @ Nov 11 2024, 09:56 AM)
Got a yellow profile pic guy say this is sapsap water aje, downplaying the issue, offering 200k to fix the issue.
In cases like this we want to UPPLAY instead of downplayying the issue, scare tactic works cause people lifes is at stake.
Over the weekend when I yamcha with my friend who is an actual building engineer,
they say cannot save d this building. Once ground floor start crack it will pull all the way to from ground floor upper floors, no doubt about it.

If they want save other blocks, they can try to seperate the carpark into sections, cut out the failed buiding AND failed shared columns to try and save other blocks.
But doing so would require an intense assessment of whether the other columns can hold the extra weight or stress when the failed ones is seperated, I highly doubt the technology and expertise we had
in malaysia. They would require to cut the concrete, etc to seperate the shared column and building.

Jacking it up is NOT A VIABLE OPTION in this case anymore, SHOULD NOT put into consideration.
Not to mention, "skim back" / "plastering" / "reinforcing failed column" is also NOT AN OPTION.

Just like a plastic pen, when u snap it, you could try to hotglue it back to a usable state where you can still use it to write,
but it will no longer has the previous hardness, and a slight bit of force or squeeze could deform it.
Same like concrete columns, when cracked or snapped or deformed, reinforcing from the outside it is just hotglueing it to make it looks more stable,
doesnt mean that it could withstand earthquakes or slightest bit of ground movement due to nearby construction.
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his train of thought is not wrong if the construction hasnt reach the top level to rectify it that way but if at low level also cracked dy means something is wrong at the foundation / piling. thats why i still feel demolish is still the best way to both PR and safety. no point patch here and there, ayam see also takut

 

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