So what they going to do? C4 it down and rebuild?

ehh bro, how you going to plaster this up, cause from some of the viral whatsapp video, apparently 1 side is half meter short, the whole door frame inside the unit is compressed until senyet d. How are they going to jack it up and plaster it? Or they just let the ground floor buyer deal it with a senyet roof and senyet door.





This post has been edited by Haru97: Nov 7 2024, 11:52 PM

Yeah its actually very risky building, I ask AI about this issue ah, AI suggest a whole building demolish.


Hmm.... from part 3 video, worker say "kurang kurang seratus turun", I take it as "100cm drop ". And yes, like how you say "senget until can see already". The door frames popping out like that, pipes senget like that is memang can see. There is no far picture view, but I suspek it already can see tilted one side.

EDIT : now to think of it 100cm is too exaberate, it might be a 100mm drop instead of 100cm drop


uhhh crack? this macam is foundational failure wor, a crack doesnt pop steel rebars or pipes from the wall.

This post has been edited by Haru97: Nov 8 2024, 12:56 PM

I hope they were able to fix this la, but judging from the "crack" from pic, the whole side wall has "tilted" an angle

Maybe quote wrong my post. But I say "AI suggests", but, as an ekspert in blow water, I trust AI more than human.
After I provide all the detail to chatgpt ah, chatgpt say how serious this could be ah, "suggest to evacuate immediately" and requires "engineers to inspect the building immediately" ah.
AI suggested that even looks not tilted from far, but rebars and rebars wire binder popping out ah, with door frame bended until that extend, pipes bengkak from wall bursting out can be seen in video,
dont need go see in person, already know how serious this crack is ah.

I have never seen a crack could put holes into walls with pipes bend like that la. IF the video source is trustable



This post has been edited by Haru97: Nov 8 2024, 09:22 AM

Ya I mean maybe him quote salah jer, not you gua

how I know, I am not an engineer, blow water is my eskperties, dont take my word for it ma.

boss, why so angry? or you building structure engineer, if so can help explain xia to the folk around
but I think even is not 100cm drop, the extent of the damage is serious and should not taken lightly

EDIT : Comes to think of it 100cm might be too exacerbated number, lets put a "100mm" for now

This post has been edited by Haru97: Nov 8 2024, 01:13 PM

Maybe I am really living off the last 2 brain cells. Btw boss, in your opinion and analysis, how long the drop is for this extent of damage?

According to image provided la dont account for trustability,
Like the door bent, pipe burst, see through hole in walls, etc. 100mm can cause this kind of damage ke?

ya, my last 2 braincell.
No measure ah, blow water only, guess how much aje.
Now to think of it 100cm maybe is too exaberated, corrected it, lets take a "100mm" displacement, still bad enough?

I think its a cease and desist order from DBKL.

Basically what I understand was
immediate halt all construction activity
hire a certified independent engineer to assess the building's structural integrity in full and to be submited to DBKL for further assessment?


I don't think so. Seems like an isolated case, there is tons of other rumahselangorku and so far so good.

Depends on the extent of damage, they could TRY* to jack it up and correct the tilt and pump cement, patch here and there, reinforce the column, underpinning, deep piling all other techniques to try to make it "hit standard".
but jacking up an almost complete building that weight thousands of tons is a significant challenge not to mention the extra cost

the safest way and to regain public trust is to redo from foundation.

This is a CRITICAL structural failure. Even with "reinforcements" slapping this and that will not help recover the integrity and strength of the building column it once had. Take for a 100mm or 10CM* drop down, it will need to be jacked up mm by mm SLOWLY with extreme precision to patch back the building to normal height. The building is SENYET already(SENYET means 1 side tall 1 side low), it just not as a simple "skim back" as anyone thought would be like a typical VP. This is STRUCTURAL FAILURE.

Source : Trust me bro.

tu gila punya 200k not enough to buy a unit, let alone fixing a failed building column.
EDIT : probably multiple* columns, we unsure the upper unit is how.

This post has been edited by Haru97: Nov 9 2024, 04:56 PM

Got a yellow profile pic guy say this is sapsap water aje, downplaying the issue, offering 200k to fix the issue.
In cases like this we want to UPPLAY instead of downplayying the issue, scare tactic works cause people lifes is at stake.


Over the weekend when I yamcha with my friend who is an actual building engineer,
they say cannot save d this building. Once ground floor start crack it will pull all the way to from ground floor upper floors, no doubt about it.

If they want save other blocks, they can try to seperate the carpark into sections, cut out the failed buiding AND failed shared columns to try and save other blocks.
But doing so would require an intense assessment of whether the other columns can hold the extra weight or stress when the failed ones is seperated, I highly doubt the technology and expertise we had
in malaysia. They would require to cut the concrete, etc to seperate the shared column and building.

Jacking it up is NOT A VIABLE OPTION in this case anymore, SHOULD NOT put into consideration.
Not to mention, "skim back" / "plastering" / "reinforcing failed column" is also NOT AN OPTION.

Just like a plastic pen, when u snap it, you could try to hotglue it back to a usable state where you can still use it to write,
but it will no longer has the previous hardness, and a slight bit of force or squeeze could deform it.
Same like concrete columns, when cracked or snapped or deformed, reinforcing from the outside it is just hotglueing it to make it looks more stable,
doesnt mean that it could withstand earthquakes or slightest bit of ground movement due to nearby construction.