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post Nov 8 2024, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Nov 8 2024, 01:29 PM)
What a great news...the SSD IS NO LONGER SOLDER! JUST SAME AS MAC STUDIO! Can add into my cart tongue.gif
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how about the RAM? brows.gif
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post Nov 8 2024, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Nov 8 2024, 03:18 PM)
how about the RAM? brows.gif
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Ram is soldered as it's unified ram shared with gpu and cpu.
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post Nov 8 2024, 05:00 PM

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This seems like a good solution too. Buy a fast thunderbolt 3/4 ssd, combine it with internal storage to expand it.


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post Nov 8 2024, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 8 2024, 05:00 PM)
This seems like a good solution too. Buy a fast thunderbolt 3/4 ssd, combine it with internal storage to expand it.


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this method cant expand the system disk, it is useless.
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post Nov 8 2024, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 8 2024, 02:56 PM)
So it’s doable but it’s not simple or you can even easily get the nand chip or the module. With mac mini launching and would definitely sell more. Hopefully these memory module will be made more and cheaper. This will make repairability easier since the SSD has finite of writes and with memory swapping, it would wear out faster as well.
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Yes, this is actually my POV.. SSD will failed.
When it failed I need at least has chance to change the SSD.
Not like other solder in there and need send whole Mobo and risk myself to change the SSD.

Now apple design like this, i can just pull out SSD, send to someone do reball and etc, install back MACOS and i happily bring back the SSD plug back into my MAC mini...at least the life spam of other part will tahan compare u solder on the mobo itself.
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post Nov 8 2024, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Nov 8 2024, 06:02 PM)
Yes, this is actually my POV.. SSD will failed.
When it failed I need at least has chance to change the SSD.
Not like other solder in there and need send whole Mobo and risk myself to change the SSD.

Now apple design like this, i can just pull out SSD, send to someone do reball and etc, install back MACOS and i happily bring back the SSD plug back into my MAC mini...at least the life spam of other part will tahan compare u solder on the mobo itself.
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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Nov 8 2024, 03:18 PM)
how about the RAM? brows.gif
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Dont really mind on these. Since 2012 apple already solder the RAM...
We need to remember, compare to CPU, RAM and SSD, SSD will eventually failed in the 1st point.

QUOTE(Kiding @ Nov 8 2024, 05:25 PM)
this method cant expand the system disk, it is useless.
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Yes..but i heard huge software can run in external ssd..not sure about the perfomance..

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post Nov 8 2024, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Nov 8 2024, 05:25 PM)
this method cant expand the system disk, it is useless.
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it seems can even boot off the ssd when install macOS on it.. maybe I missed somehing?
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post Nov 8 2024, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Nov 8 2024, 03:18 PM)
how about the RAM? brows.gif
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 8 2024, 04:57 PM)
Ram is soldered as it's unified ram shared with gpu and cpu.
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although slower, why not just use ssd as extra ram (virtual memory) since now has thunderbolt ports, can get a really fast ssd

although m2 mac mini video, but here he talks about swap memory at 6:20 mark



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post Nov 8 2024, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 8 2024, 07:11 PM)
it seems can even boot off the ssd when install macOS on it.. maybe I missed somehing?
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you can install macos on external ssd disk and boot it from external ssd, but you cant expand the internal system disk with external ssd disk.

In the video, she created a new partition in the built in ssd disk, and expand it with external disk, this cannot expand macos system partition.
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post Nov 8 2024, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Nov 8 2024, 09:08 PM)
you can install macos on external ssd disk and boot it from external ssd, but you cant expand the internal system disk with external ssd disk.

In the video, she created a new partition in the built in ssd disk, and expand it with external disk, this cannot expand macos system partition.
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why u want to do that?
my m1 256gb storage - store OS and app
External nvme 2TB - store data

Work as expected and 256GB can survive for 3 years+ without any issue. By doing this, original storage seldom do writing as only store OS and App. More read/write is on my external nvme. This increase the life span of storage also

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post Nov 8 2024, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Nov 8 2024, 10:23 PM)
why u want to do that?
my m1 256gb storage - store OS and app
External nvme 2TB - store data

Work as expected and 256GB can survive for 3 years+ without any issue. By doing this, original storage seldom do writing as only store OS and App. More read/write is on my external nvme. This increase the life span of storage also
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Some apps have data that is stored on macOS system data right? Even you move the app to external ssd, the app data still store inside internal storage.

I run apps like Draw Things, even move the app to external, but the data still hides inside built in, same as ollama also. If can move those data to external, then would be good.

If you are running MacOS on external ssd, doesn't everything stores in external SSD?
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post Nov 9 2024, 12:15 AM

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Anyone got 3D printer can print this. Looks super cute! I will ask my friend to help print this in the future.

Mac Mini Mac Pro enclosure
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post Nov 9 2024, 10:42 AM

 
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Seems like it has dual nand on the base model as well. 5:38.
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post Nov 9 2024, 10:43 AM

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M4 vs M4 Pro

M4 ssd is again slower a lot.


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post Nov 9 2024, 11:41 AM

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Successfully upgraded the nand chip from 256gb to 1TB.


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post Nov 9 2024, 11:56 AM

 
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 9 2024, 10:43 AM)
M4 vs M4 Pro

M4 ssd is again slower a lot.


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From the video, it's not bad.
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Now just waiting when launch in Malaysia...
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post Nov 9 2024, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 9 2024, 11:41 AM)
Successfully upgraded the nand chip from 256gb to 1TB.


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it not direct replace with other nvme. so too high risk to replace it.
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post Nov 9 2024, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Nov 9 2024, 02:06 PM)
it not direct replace with other nvme. so too high risk to replace it.
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I think risk wise is minimum, imagine u need to heat the whole mobo and hell know what did you screw up vs detach the memory chip and rechip it.. tongue.gif
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post Nov 9 2024, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Nov 7 2024, 01:30 PM)
Check out 'Mac Mini M4 ( latest/ 1 Year apple warranty / Book', available at RM1,900 on #Carousell https://carousell.app.link/uxyj5jp3jOb

Cheaper than education price. Sounds fishy
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has anyone here purchased anything from this guys?
Its seriously cheap and kind of cant believe/trust.. biggrin.gif

Please check all items in his store.. he should have big channle if this happen to be genuince.

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