Not on my car buying list due to rather expensive & worry abt catching fire due to battery issue.

Then a car is not suitable for you since every car has risks of fire.

Just came back from Pauline's ACE 2024 in Setia Alam. Proton announced their e.Mas 7 goes for RM120K! Rebate 1.5K for booking now. Suicide pricing for national car? Even if CKD, I doubt it can a lot lower.

soyacincau mention in twitter/x said that RM 120k not starting or maximum price

I hv 5 ICE cars at home but no EV, so far no fire risk.
Worry if buy EV, house burn down while charging on on the road.

You have 5 ICE cars at home = 5 times the risk

You better start worrying about your 5 ICE cars instead of the safer EV

Only possible fire risk for ICE cars is due to fuel leak onto hot exhaust or crash. I would worry more if there is an EV park or charging at home than 5 or more ICE cars parked at home.

That's your stone age perception lmaoooo. We are living in the AI era now brother, please move on and stop living in the past.

FYI, ICE cars' fire risks also include overheating engine and flammable engine oil & transmission fluid so I'd definitely park my car next to an EV instead of an ICE vehicle if there's an option.

Your choice. ICE car fires are caused by leaking fuel (petrol) after an accident or hose leak and drip onto hot engine part such as exhaust. Engine & transmission oils are non combustible.

https://youtu.be/SDN7iJMslWo?si=gvkYL6WxTP6lib19

2 variants - Prime and Premium and an estimated price of RM 120,000. That is less than the X70 Premium and Premium X variants which are priced from RM 123,800 and RM 126,800 respectively.

A point to note that the eMas has a 11kW OBC over the 7kW OBC that is used in the original car in China.

11kW OBC is very expensive.... BYD sold in Europe cost over rm230k++ compared to same model in Malaysia and Australia RM160k± due to us using 7kW OBC

I hv 5 ICE cars at home but no EV, so far no fire risk.
Worry if buy EV, house burn down while charging on on the road.

Just came back from Pauline's ACE 2024 in Setia Alam. Proton announced their e.Mas 7 goes for RM120K! Rebate 1.5K for booking now. Suicide pricing for national car? Even if CKD, I doubt it can a lot lower.

Went to check out the car at ACE Setia Alam yesterday. It was the most popular car there, needed to wait very long to get a chance to sit in the car and check it out. IMO its a very good value package at the price range. Will definitely sell like hot cakes. I especially liked the sharp and responsive infotainment screen.

Personally my primary concern is with the Proton badging and its crappy aftersales. But then again all the other competitors like Xpeng G6 and Leapmotor C10 are unknown entities as well. Bermaz especially does not inspire trust.

On the other hand, the Leapmotor C10 was a good looking vehicle. The green one looked great and interior was decent but very spartan. However, the pricing is a big turn-off for what is supposed to be a cheap car. The car look impressive but it is very cheaply made.

I doubt that proton technician be able to handle e.mas issue
Even x50/x70 also they keep replying 'this is normal'

Personally, felt the car overpriced. Since it will be locally made, it should make it below 100k for majority of people to easy transit to EV.

It is not locally made. It will be CBU, that's why price cannot below 100K.

Went to check out the car at ACE Setia Alam yesterday. It was the most popular car there, needed to wait very long to get a chance to sit in the car and check it out. IMO its a very good value package at the price range. Will definitely sell like hot cakes. I especially liked the sharp and responsive infotainment screen.

Personally my primary concern is with the Proton badging and its crappy aftersales. But then again all the other competitors like Xpeng G6 and Leapmotor C10 are unknown entities as well. Bermaz especially does not inspire trust.

On the other hand, the Leapmotor C10 was a good looking vehicle. The green one looked great and interior was decent but very spartan. However, the pricing is a big turn-off for what is supposed to be a cheap car. The car look impressive but it is very cheaply made.

Proton SA said that the RHD version is already being built in Tanjung Malim and the first batch will be from Tanjung Malim and not China. Anyone can confirm whether this is true?

Proton SA said that the RHD version is already being built in Tanjung Malim and the first batch will be from Tanjung Malim and not China. Anyone can confirm whether this is true?

However, the eMas 7 will arrive as a fully-imported (CBU) EV, which means it cannot be priced under the RM100,000 minimum price cap that the government has set for CBU EVs until the end of next year. Locally assembling (CKD) the eMas 7 in Malaysia should allow it to be priced under said price cap, but it’s not revealed when or if this will happen.

How is e.MAS 7 interior build compared to C10? Better build? Nice feel to touch?
Local SA told me the first batch will be CBU from China.

Atto3 and MG4 sales will be most impacted by this car

I don't think Model Y, Xpeng G6 or Smart need to worry much since they have the range and maybe branding advantage

Leapmotor? No android auto or apple carplay, under stellantis group some more (read more about their issues especially quality), got people really consider this?

Neta? Whoever buy this brand here really brave lol. no offence

also note that so far we only see the CLTC figures for emas7... they haven't released the WLTP range yet

starting from 120k should be the base range model? CLTC range 440km.... WLTP should be around 350km+

if you need a second car just for work commute and staying landed, then no problem...

WLTP already released

Atto3 and MG4 sales will be most impacted by this car

I don't think Model Y, Xpeng G6 or Smart need to worry much since they have the range and maybe branding advantage

Leapmotor? No android auto or apple carplay, under stellantis group some more (read more about their issues especially quality), got people really consider this?

Neta? Whoever buy this brand here really brave lol. no offence

also note that so far we only see the CLTC figures for emas7... they haven't released the WLTP range yet

starting from 120k should be the base range model? CLTC range 440km.... WLTP should be around 350km+

if you need a second car just for work commute and staying landed, then no problem...

345km.... good luck

Purely a city car for those with landed property

Leapmotor is distributed worldwide by Stellantis but not made by them. China car build quality nowadays seems to be quite good. I like the car and would have seriously considered if it launched at around RM130k. At RM159k, better get G6.

Personally, felt the car overpriced. Since it will be locally made, it should make it below 100k for majority of people to easy transit to EV.

Normally 80% frm that so around 276km

For charging, the max DC rate is 80 kW for the 49.52 kWh battery and 100 kW for the 60.22 kWh unit, while AC charging is 11 kW max for both.

Yes but since there's so many good EV brands from China why consider a niche brand? If really want to get a China branded EV might as well go for one which is more popular in their home country or worldwide.

Also no AA or AC at that price. Some might say it doesn't matter but to me unless your software is as good as Tesla it matters a lot. But then nowadays these cars also come with OTA update so they can easily add the feature in future

Another car I missed in direct competition with emas7 - Omoda E5. Probably in the same group as Atto 3 and MG4

Don't know why their DC charging rate is so low. 80kw? and 100kw?

BYD seal is 150kw, and tesla model Y is 170kw

Is the DCFC speed so critical though?

I drive M3LR, 250kW peak... I rarely get that on Superchargers (need low SoC and preconditioned battery) and probably less than 3 minute throughout the charging session.

The other day was at Ipoh, also limited to 60kW Gentari. These >200W chargers are pretty limited, and if available also is for the 800V cars.

100kW can fully utilize most DCFC now already la (assuming charging curve is good).

This is true, charging curve is very important and Tesla is known to charge at substantially below the max kwh for most of the charging session. In practice I think the lower kwh DCFCs stations operate closer to their max which is better than a 150kwh charger but only charge at a lower rate most of the time.
Anyway, I think most people who are buying EVs now will charge at home and only occasionally at a DCFC, so not a big deal in the bigger scheme of things.

Tesla charge curve gradually reduces, this is probably what they have learnt to maximize charge speed and battery life span probably over the years. For Tesla it actively monitors the temperature of the battery pack, if your AC radiator is clogged and it doesn't cool the battery pack as efficiently you don't get top speed either.

Some brands, I think brands like BMWs does it step by step... depending on the %. Not sure how is it like on the e.MAS 7.

I'm shopping for the wife, long distance drive will be using my M3LR which has more range... this one is most for town drive (or occasionally going to nearer outstations say Melaka-KL or Melaka-Muar kinda trips), or when need to fetch more people (M3 when fetch more people very stressful when I see speed bumps  ).

they can't even decide on the pricing, really MY style

I think most if not all the new EVs manage the charging actively based on temperature and SoC. Only the old EVs like Nissan Leaf that does not do that.

I think the emas 7 makes a lot of sense for your use case and maybe can consider the Dolphin also, BYD is offering discounts on them as well.

I see the new trend now is announcing RM xxx and below, instead of the usual "from RM xxx". *cough* Zeekr *cough*. Looks like they are testing the market interest before announcing the actual price. Maybe if less bookings = lower price? 
Personally, I think e.MAS 7 is a good choice. Only issue now is convincing my wife as she is kinda allergy towards the kucing logo  . We went to test drive BYD Dolphin and BYD Atto 3 two weeks ago, she strike off Dolphin cause of the interior and front headlamp design. Atto 3 under consideration, offered about 135k for 2024 model... which IF the e.MAS 7 is 129k for long range, no brainer to go for e.MAS 7! Only will consider the Dolphin if it is indeed about 120k like what I read on FB... that also hard sell la because I still value the space and interior design of the e.MAS 7 and most important is the 11kW OBC. My house been using 16A x 3 so far and has been rock solid... don't wanna be using 32A single phase that I might need to do some load balancing at my home pulak.

I see the new trend now is announcing RM xxx and below, instead of the usual "from RM xxx". *cough* Zeekr *cough*. Looks like they are testing the market interest before announcing the actual price. Maybe if less bookings = lower price? 
Personally, I think e.MAS 7 is a good choice. Only issue now is convincing my wife as she is kinda allergy towards the kucing logo  . We went to test drive BYD Dolphin and BYD Atto 3 two weeks ago, she strike off Dolphin cause of the interior and front headlamp design. Atto 3 under consideration, offered about 135k for 2024 model... which IF the e.MAS 7 is 129k for long range, no brainer to go for e.MAS 7! Only will consider the Dolphin if it is indeed about 120k like what I read on FB... that also hard sell la because I still value the space and interior design of the e.MAS 7 and most important is the 11kW OBC. My house been using 16A x 3 so far and has been rock solid... don't wanna be using 32A single phase that I might need to do some load balancing at my home pulak.

I see the new trend now is announcing RM xxx and below, instead of the usual "from RM xxx". *cough* Zeekr *cough*. Looks like they are testing the market interest before announcing the actual price. Maybe if less bookings = lower price? 
Personally, I think e.MAS 7 is a good choice. Only issue now is convincing my wife as she is kinda allergy towards the kucing logo  . We went to test drive BYD Dolphin and BYD Atto 3 two weeks ago, she strike off Dolphin cause of the interior and front headlamp design. Atto 3 under consideration, offered about 135k for 2024 model... which IF the e.MAS 7 is 129k for long range, no brainer to go for e.MAS 7! Only will consider the Dolphin if it is indeed about 120k like what I read on FB... that also hard sell la because I still value the space and interior design of the e.MAS 7 and most important is the 11kW OBC. My house been using 16A x 3 so far and has been rock solid... don't wanna be using 32A single phase that I might need to do some load balancing at my home pulak.

since when you got the pricing for atto 3? deepa promo is 22k rebate

With regards to EV, there is no incentive or point to develop in house, since China is too far ahead with regards to EV tech, even Conti EV oso cannot compete. Best way is to go back to basics and rebadge lor. Perodua been doing it since day 1 till today yet no one complains. At least Proton did try to build a car in house, even if it failed miserably.

Anybody knows where to review this car? Any showroom has this model?

Assembly for ICE and EV are very diff, huge investments needed to assemble EV, best to use CBU route… Gov shld extend the tax incentives for CBU EV… coz cost of setting EV assembly plant is expensive…

Anybody knows where to review this car? Any showroom has this model?

MG ZS EV now available for RM99,999: The cheapest electric SUV in Malaysia

26k discount, people.

https://soyacincau.com/2024/11/05/mg-zs-ev-...uv-in-malaysia/

Good article with the comparison table on EV SUVs available in Malaysia. Only Xpeng G6 and Tesla Model Y is missing.
IMO the MG ZS EV is too old, smaller range, smaller size, based on multi-power platform (not pure EV platform) and too basic, but the new price is very good value for money. IMO MG waited too long to adjust their prices and they now face the risk of missing the boat completely. The Atto 3 at around RM120k will likely sell better but many people will now wait for Proton eMas 7 and if the price is good, they will likely pay more for it as it is a better vehicle all around anyway.

For what it is worth, I hope it will start more rounds of price cuts for others.

MG is dubbed the undisputed kilowatt-per-dollar king in Australia

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/detai...d-mg-zs-147042/

While in Thailand , they announced extended lifetime warranty for four models: MG4 Electric, MG Maxus 9, MG Maxus 7 and the new MG Cyberster.
The extended lifetime warranty is for High-Voltage Battery, Electric Drive Unit and Power Electronic Bloc

Source: https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/motori...for-four-models. View our policies at http://goo.gl/9HgTd and http://goo.gl/ou6Ip.

Yup, there is bound to be more price cuts especially after Proton confirm the prices for the two emas 7 variants. But it will be better for everyone if there are more players that do well in our market. Right now it seems like only BYD and Tesla are doing good numbers. BMW also seems to be doing well in the premium segment.

Xpeng is also doing well but from the way Bermaz is doing things can clearly see that they don't want to invest much into it because they know it will not sell once 2026 rolls in due to the end of CBU tax exemption. Bermax is well known for abandoning their brands like what they did to Kia and Peugeot, so I would expect no support for parts and repairs in a few years.

The rest seem to be selling in very small numbers which will make it difficult to keep their service centres running beyond 2026.

More expensive than Tesla because need to buy 2.

Geely: Once drivers try EVs, they won't go back to petrol cars
By Bernama
November 6, 2024 @ 11:48am


HANGZHOU: Electric vehicles (EVs) are gaining momentum globally, with China at the forefront of this shift toward eco-friendly transportation.

Geely Holdings Group's global communications lead, Ashley Sutcliffe, said that once drivers switch to EVs, "they won't go back to petrol," underscoring the market's transformative potential.

"It's like buying a car and then going back to a horse. It's really uncomfortable. I easily drove 3,000 kilometres on a road trip, and the electricity bill was 415 yuan (about RM255). In a petrol car, that would have been at least 1,500 yuan.

"Petrol here is twice the price of Malaysia, making it very expensive to use," he told Malaysian reporters recently.

The media delegation's visit to Geely's headquarters was part of the Malaysian Media Visit Programme to China, organised by the Malaysia-China Friendship Association (PPMC) to mark the 50th anniversary of diplomatic relations between the two countries.

Sutcliffe revealed that EVs have accounted for 53 per cent of China's monthly car sales in recent months, equivalent to around two million units each month—a sign of rapid public acceptance and rising demand.

He noted that this surge is driven by extensive charging infrastructure and affordable prices.

Early EV models priced at 500,000–600,000 yuan are now available for as low as 30,000 yuan, making them accessible to a broader market and fuelling their popularity.

"So, once you have the scale, the price drops down, adoption goes up," he said.

Malaysia's EV market, he added, while still in its infancy, holds promise.

The government's National Energy Transition Roadmap (NETR) aims for EVs to make up 80 per cent of the nation's industry volume by 2040, with plans to establish 10,000 charging stations by 2025 and increase EV numbers to 500,000 by 2030.

Sutcliffe believes Malaysia's renewable energy resources, such as solar, wind, and hydro, will ease EV infrastructure development.

"I believe this country will be a new energy leader in the future," he said, citing Malaysia's renewable energy potential.

He also stressed the importance of government initiatives in kickstarting infrastructure, adding, "Once the government gives that first push, the stone just keeps rolling."

– BERNAMA

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2024/11/...ack-petrol-cars

There is no turning back

Yes...! EV powertrain is 

Driving a BEV for months now, almost time to renew insurance too. No turning back, now surveying for an affordable BEV for wife. So far e.MAS 7 is my top pick, but my wife is allergy towards the kucing logo  need to continue persuading her... 

Cars Bikes Trucks
Chery Auto Malaysia rolls out first locally assembled OMODA E5 electric vehicle
By Adie Zulkifli
November 9, 2024 @ 12:59am

KULIM: Chery Auto Malaysia has rolled-off the first Completely Knocked Down (CKD) unit of the OMODA E5 from Inokom Plant here, the Chinese automaker's first fully electric vehicle for the Malaysian market.

Chery Auto Malaysia president Leo Chen said the accomplishment demonstrates Chery's commitment to improving local manufacturing capabilities, promoting Malaysia's industrial growth, and contributing to the country's transition to a sustainable, electrified automotive future.

He said the OMODA E5, known for its modern design and advanced technology, represents Chery's dedication to delivering high-quality vehicles tailored to the preferences of Malaysian consumers.

"Today's roll-off of Chery's first CKD unit of the OMODA E5 is a testament to our dedication to innovation, quality, and our commitment to the Malaysian market.

"By assembling our cars locally, it not only allows us to provide more competitive pricing but also signifies Chery's long-term commitment in Malaysia, fostering job creation and skill development within the local workforce," he said after the launching ceremony by Deputy Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Ministry (MITI) Liew Chin Tong.


Present was Sime Darby Bhd group chief executive officer Datuk Jeffri Salim Davidson.

Chen added that the initiative is in-line with the government's policy of localisation compliance and will support and assist Malaysia to become a regional hub for electric vehicles.

In his speech, Liew remarked that the launching of Chery OMODA E5 is a milestone in Malaysia's automotive industry.

"As of 30 September 2024, there are 32,543 Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs) registered on Malaysian roads. However, 98% of these BEVs are imported as Completely Built-Up (CBU) units.

"Before this, only Volvo and Mercedes-Benz assembled EVs locally. With today's launch, Chery becomes another brand to assemble EVs in Malaysia, marking a significant step forward to localise EV production.

"Localising as much as possible in terms of manufacturing of vehicles has a balance of payment dimensions.

"Chery should be congratulated for the fact that 99% of their assembly workforce here are Malaysians," he said.

Liew added that the industrialisation of Malaysia must mean better jobs and better pay for Malaysians, not more jobs for unskilled foreign workers.

"Whenever possible, we should automate more and use more technology, instead of hiring unskilled foreign workers," he said....

https://www.nst.com.my/news-cars-bikes-truc...assembled-omoda
So In comparison: Proton and Perodua are slow poke.

Yeah, Chery seems to be the most serious China carmaker in terms of how it views the Malaysian market. They are even releasing a lot of new vehicles albeit mostly ICE. It's good to see that at least 1 China company is taking us seriously. Looking at how things are going, the rest (BYD, MG, Xpeng) don't plan to be here long term since they don't have any plans to CKD their vehicles. So 2025 will be the last year their vehicles will be price competitive. The most obvious one is Bermaz with Xpeng, they don't even bother to prepare brochures and only had 2 outlets upon launching. Quite obvious that they fully expect it to be a hit and run market and don't plan on investing too much.

It’s an affordable electric car compare to other brand. Quality don’t know yet

I thought it should be priced below 100k and I am willing to buy it. I wont touch it now that it is priced above 100K

Yeah, Chery seems to be the most serious China carmaker in terms of how it views the Malaysian market. They are even releasing a lot of new vehicles albeit mostly ICE. It's good to see that at least 1 China company is taking us seriously. Looking at how things are going, the rest (BYD, MG, Xpeng) don't plan to be here long term since they don't have any plans to CKD their vehicles. So 2025 will be the last year their vehicles will be price competitive. The most obvious one is Bermaz with Xpeng, they don't even bother to prepare brochures and only had 2 outlets upon launching. Quite obvious that they fully expect it to be a hit and run market and don't plan on investing too much.

BYD & MG already have CKD line in Thailand where the volume is much higher than here and can even supply to the entire SEA region. Why, want to spend some huge amount of money again in a low volume country? And looking at what incentives the silly government is giving (or not giving) here, why would they bother?

Rm100k plus we have wide variety of choices

BYD & MG already have CKD line in Thailand where the volume is much higher than here and can even supply to the entire SEA region. Why, want to spend some huge amount of money again in a low volume country? And looking at what incentives the silly government is giving (or not giving) here, why would they bother?

Assembly plant is easy, the problem is how to CKD the EV battery that is the major cost.

Anyone manage to secure a test drive slot yet? Or still gotta wait until Dec'24?

Proton e.MAS7 will be made available for a much lower price for the first 3,000 customers thanks to a RM4,000 launch rebate:

Proton e.MAS 7 Premium: RM119,800
Proton e.MAS Prime: RM105,800

Proton has to come out with e.MAS 7 Power Pack to welcome the new EV. Valued at RM8,000, here are what e.MAS 7 set to benefit from the package when the EV is delivered to them:

Complimentary 7kW home charger worth RM1,500

Complimentary V2L adaptor worth RM500

5-year unlimited in-car internet data worth RM1,800

6-year unlimited mileage vehicle warranty + 8-year / 160,000km warranty of high voltage battery, driving motor, and driving motor controller

Also part of the e.MAS 7 Power Pack is an interest rate as low as 1.98% worth up to RM3,000 from Proton Commerce although this particular offer will end on 15 January 2025. Meanwhile, owners of existing Proton ICE models will also receive an additional rebate of RM1,200 if they trade in their Proton vehicle with Carsome.

Click into the link for more perks

Not on my car buying list due to rather expensive & worry abt catching fire due to battery issue.

Don't know why their DC charging rate is so low. 80kw? and 100kw?

BYD seal is 150kw, and tesla model Y is 170kw

This emas7 is using LFP battery which has high level of safety from fire compare to NMC type. So don't get it wrong that all EV battery is easily fire, LFP and NMC battery is different level in safety by a lot.

LFP batteries from ccp is a scam. Only solid state batteries are considered safe enough for me.