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post Oct 25 2024, 01:36 PM

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Let Puspakom inspect, oh wait. Like Cherry car until Axel goes off. Puspakom semuanya OK.
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well, u want to try new brand, that's the risk lo lol.. what to complain sia
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post Oct 25 2024, 01:38 PM

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But this car alot on the road dy ....
Should be one off...
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we need first batch of user to fix all the bugs first
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thats why people say stick with kamikaze lar . all so exited and go for the toy car with big display.....sekarang sudah start la.
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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 25 2024, 01:38 PM)
we need first batch of user to fix all the bugs first
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Yup, first batch buyer always come with problems, as part of the stress test.

Later 2nd batch and so on wont have problems
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post Oct 25 2024, 01:57 PM

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Already expected. DCT - Dual Clutch Gearbox, remember first when VW introduce DSG gearbox (Similar technology), a lot of VW car stalling cannot move at traffic lights until owners go SC there rally boikot. laugh.gif

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post Oct 25 2024, 01:57 PM

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Didnt see another issue frm pjjot 408.also Christmas lights all on n cant start
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QUOTE(Clowninja @ Oct 25 2024, 01:55 PM)
Yup, first batch buyer always come with problems, as part of the stress test.

Later 2nd batch and so on wont have problems
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wah so confident ka. Itu Plotong Geely sampai berapa generation pun sama jugak.
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Range rover is known to be problematic owai..
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QUOTE(cop23 @ Oct 25 2024, 01:58 PM)
wah so confident ka. Itu Plotong Geely sampai berapa generation pun sama jugak.
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Oct 25 2024, 01:59 PM)
Range rover is known to be problematic owai..
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Buy after we got lemon law first la.....
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hmm.gif where are all the jaecoo fans?

the other thread has 11 pages woh...where are they?
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 01:57 PM)
Already expected. DCT - Dual Clutch Gearbox, remember first when VW introduce DSG gearbox (Similar technology), a lot of VW car stalling cannot move at traffic lights until owners go SC there rally boikotlaugh.gif
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I remember, that was in 2014...got amoi cantik pergi sana boikot juga!

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5323565/all
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 01:57 PM)
Already expected. DCT - Dual Clutch Gearbox, remember first when VW introduce DSG gearbox (Similar technology), a lot of VW car stalling cannot move at traffic lights until owners go SC there rally boikot.  laugh.gif
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Isn't Porsche also uses the same tech?
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QUOTE(KcX35 @ Oct 25 2024, 01:37 PM)
well, u want to try new brand, that's the risk lo lol.. what to complain sia
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U want check merc lemon unit story?
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 01:57 PM)
Already expected. DCT - Dual Clutch Gearbox, remember first when VW introduce DSG gearbox (Similar technology), a lot of VW car stalling cannot move at traffic lights until owners go SC there rally boikot.  laugh.gif
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So what gear box is best?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 25 2024, 02:51 PM)
So what gear box is best?
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old school auto/manual
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post Oct 25 2024, 02:58 PM

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Wanna bet its a 12v battery issue or not


Just unplug the 12v, wait 10 minutes, plug back the terminal and restart car
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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ Oct 25 2024, 02:48 PM)
Isn't Porsche also uses the same tech?
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Porsche is PDK or something but a lot better.
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post Oct 25 2024, 03:01 PM

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90% always a 12V battery problem. Another 10% is software problem.
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post Oct 25 2024, 03:01 PM

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as expected. wait next year how.
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post Oct 25 2024, 03:11 PM

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Expect more cases now. Caina dumping all their surplus stock at 100k+ laugh to bank.
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Only 1 lemon car. No need panic. Even toyota also get lemons sometime.


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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 25 2024, 03:51 PM)
So what gear box is best?
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Different gearbox tech got their pro & con

For dual clutch gearbox related, this is more suitable towards higher speed/performance driving thus why DSG gearbox are usually design for sport cars at first. If always stuck in traffic jam, those who driven dual clutch gearbox will know how struggle the gearbox feel when slow crawling and for VW case previously due to overheat & non suitable gear/mechatronic oil used make it worse and easy to stall.

Thus why you see majority of normal Japanese cars still stick with conventional 4AT/6AT or CVT gearbox as it is more suitable for normal traffic, low speed driving. For Japanese side, only those performance ride like Nissan R35, Mitsubishi EVO X used SST/DSG gearbox.
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That's why NA with AT box is the best.
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post Oct 25 2024, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ Oct 25 2024, 02:48 PM)
Isn't Porsche also uses the same tech?
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same tech with more premium quality

u will feel the jerk and not comfortable if crawl around traffic

sometime u want accelerate then he upshift

then sometime u slowing down keep downshift and jerking u


in be4 spare part pun more mahal



if really pure city drive + slow traffic ..CVT really more comfortable option

my benz 9Gtronic sometime pure city drive also got sohai logic ..comfort mode switch gear slow like sohai ..then if want accelerate suddenly drop 3 4 gear and jerk 9 u
if switch sport mode then keep downshift (and jerk) ready for u to vroom

tarak something in between sport n comfort mode

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 25 2024, 02:51 PM)
So what gear box is best?
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conventional auto
that thing bulletproof AF

but people complain sluggish and yes, it's also darn expensive
the only manufacturer that dares to put conventional auto into all of their cars are korean cars because they have a factory that makes their own AT gearbox
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Oct 25 2024, 04:15 PM)
same tech with more premium quality

u will feel the jerk and not comfortable if crawl around traffic

sometime u want accelerate then he upshift

then sometime u slowing down keep downshift and jerking u
in be4 spare part pun more mahal
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Yup, all DSG gearbox will encounter but different manufacturer might got different way to prevent the gearbox from stalling.

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 03:13 PM)
Different gearbox tech got their pro & con

For dual clutch gearbox related, this is more suitable towards higher speed/performance driving thus why DSG gearbox are usually design for sport cars at first. If always stuck in traffic jam, those who driven dual clutch gearbox will know how struggle the gearbox feel when slow crawling and for VW case previously due to overheat & non suitable gear/mechatronic oil used make it worse and easy to stall.

Thus why you see majority of normal Japanese cars still stick with conventional 4AT/6AT or CVT gearbox as it is more suitable for normal traffic, low speed driving. For Japanese side, only those performance ride like Nissan R35, Mitsubishi EVO X used SST/DSG gearbox.
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So next time buy ice car make sure

Not 3 pots but 4.
Must be 6AT

Anything else?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 25 2024, 03:16 PM)
conventional auto
that thing bulletproof AF

but people complain sluggish and yes, it's also darn expensive
the only manufacturer that dares to put conventional auto into all of their cars are korean cars because they have a factory that makes their own AT gearbox
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but torque converter AT feels the best when driving around town with alot start stop. Because you can build alot of torque from from fluid power transfer.

Also if your engine big enough hp and torque it doesn't really feel sluggish anymore.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 25 2024, 04:16 PM)
conventional auto
that thing bulletproof AF

but people complain sluggish and yes, it's also darn expensive
the only manufacturer that dares to put conventional auto into all of their cars are korean cars because they have a factory that makes their own AT gearbox
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Korean also got different gearbox in their model lines, for performance N-Line they also got DCT gearbox. You can see most Korean & Japanese manufacturers only put dual clutch to top performing model lines and not the normal range.
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Politikus dan cronies doesn't care, coz if their 'lemon' range rover broke down, they still have other cars to drive.

And majority Malaysian are ok with these coz already kena fxcked for decades.


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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 03:17 PM)
Yup, all DSG gearbox will encounter but different manufacturer might got different way to prevent the gearbox from stalling.
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they can minimize that only

but still can defeat the nature of the gearbox itself

same like no matter how CVT tweak also wont have 99% same feel like normal AT


tapi DSG if highway vroom syok la

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 25 2024, 03:18 PM)
So next time buy ice car make sure

Not 3 pots but 4.
Must be 6AT

Anything else?
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depend on your purpose

if pure city drive + jam like f mia traffic ..NA + good tuned CVT

if aim for pure reliability and dont give a shit to the rest= NA + 4 AT

if primary car to travel longer distance = NA or turbo + 6AT (but turbo u need to take care on carbon built up)

want lap like dog or racing = dsg lor

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 25 2024, 04:18 PM)
So next time buy ice car make sure

Not 3 pots but 4.
Must be 6AT

Anything else?
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Each technology got their pro & con and you will need to know what is your driving perference. There is no certain technology is bad or good.

Example:- If you always on highway or like to play track, speed demon, DSG gearbox will always give the best advantage of switching gear fast and better high speed driving.

If always in city, stuck in traffic jam. Normal AT or CVT gearbox will provide the better driving experience.

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Oct 25 2024, 03:21 PM)
but torque converter AT feels the best when driving around town with alot start stop. Because you can build alot of torque from from fluid power transfer.

Also if your engine big enough hp and torque it doesn't really feel sluggish anymore.
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depends on preference lah
those who're used to DCT already will definitely feel conventional AT being slow...hard to go back other than u give up already on how unreliable DCT is laugh.gif


QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 03:22 PM)
Korean also got different gearbox in their model lines, for performance N-Line they also got DCT gearbox. You can see most Korean & Japanese manufacturers only put dual clutch to top performing model lines and not the normal range.
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the philosophy of japanese and korean and japanese car is like terbalik

korean car normal car they put conventional auto...sport car they put DCT
japanese car cheap car they put CVT...expensive, higher line up car they put conventional auto
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 25 2024, 03:18 PM)
So next time buy ice car make sure

Not 3 pots but 4.
Must be 6AT

Anything else?
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this is what some of the people want which toyota won't make

why?
if they make that car today, they would go bankrupt really fast because that car won't even die nor it would even have any problems laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Oct 25 2024, 03:58 PM)
Wanna bet its a 12v battery issue or not
Just unplug the 12v, wait 10 minutes, plug back the terminal and restart car
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Huh…

That easy meh ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 25 2024, 04:50 PM)
depends on preference lah
those who're used to DCT already will definitely feel conventional AT being slow...hard to go back other than u give up already on how unreliable DCT is laugh.gif
the philosophy of japanese and korean and japanese car is like terbalik

korean car normal car they put conventional auto...sport car they put DCT
japanese car cheap car they put CVT...expensive, higher line up car they put conventional auto
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Also got DCT, dont forget Nissan R35 & EVO X... cry.gif

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 04:18 PM)
Also got DCT, forget Nissan R35 & EVO X?  cry.gif
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those are sports car lineup
evo X gearbox how reliable i think many know already
nissan one is not bad at all
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 25 2024, 05:32 PM)
those are sports car lineup
evo X gearbox how reliable i think many know already
nissan one is not bad at all
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Nissan also bad if you always went for track, personally knew 1 R35 owner like everytime go track or race when come back sure need to open gearbox to fix something. Unless you drive conservatively and dont modify, still he told me some R35 owners drive normal also feedback around 30000~40000km also start to got problem.
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QUOTE(bigmac999 @ Oct 25 2024, 04:04 PM)
ok what with the 7 years 150000km warranty hahaha
just send back lmao
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warranty every body also can say they give you xxxxxxx km but when you claim could be a different story
there might be a lot of fine prints that they can decline your warranty claim
can only be only for 1 time
or they will say it is you who abuse the unit.

dont just trust the warranty statement unless you see many can claim without issue.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 04:37 PM)
Nissan also bad if you always went for track, personally knew 1 R35 owner like everytime go track or race when come back sure need to open gearbox to fix something. Unless you drive conservatively and dont modify, still he told me some R35 owners drive normal also feedback around 30000~40000km also start to got problem.
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well, this sort of car really depends if you wanna baby it or you wanna drive it the way it's supposed to be driven

if you drive it the way it's supposed to be driven, you'll have to bear the cost of it but i think the people who bought this car and drive it the way it's supposed to be driven doesn't regret it because it's really fun
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 25 2024, 05:43 PM)
well, this sort of car really depends if you wanna baby it or you wanna drive it the way it's supposed to be driven

if you drive it the way it's supposed to be driven, you'll have to bear the cost of it but i think the people who bought this car and drive it the way it's supposed to be driven doesn't regret it because it's really fun
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Yes, since he like to race he already knew that the engine & gearbox will need a lot of money to mod & fix. Most of these owners already knew the consequences, just live with it.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 03:13 PM)
Different gearbox tech got their pro & con

Thus why you see majority of normal Japanese cars still stick with conventional 4AT/6AT or CVT gearbox as it is more suitable for normal traffic, low speed driving. For Japanese side, only those performance ride like Nissan R35, Mitsubishi EVO X used SST/DSG gearbox.
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CVT also not sedap, for example HRV when at low rpm (below 2000), gear 1/2, weak and shudder most of the time , more obvious when crossing road hump
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QUOTE(auronthas @ Oct 25 2024, 06:34 PM)
CVT also not sedap, for example HRV when at low rpm (below 2000), gear 1/2, weak and shudder most of the time , more obvious when crossing road hump
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The HRV is turbo or N/A? If it is Turbo that is turbo lag, as usually turbo engine need certain RPM to hit the sweet torque level.

Same as Mazda Skyactive engine, due to their engine high compression & direct injection technology. Below 2000rpm the torque also not good and also can feel some knocking/jerking even for 6AT gearbox when driving very slow crawling situation. But still it is far more comfortable than compare to like DSG gearbox.

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 05:44 PM)
The HRV is turbo or N/A? If it is Turbo that is turbo lag, as usually turbo engine need certain RPM to hit the sweet torque level.

Same as Mazda Skyactive engine, due to their engine high compression & direct injection technology. Below 2000rpm the torque also not good and also can feel some knocking/jerking even for 6AT gearbox when driving very slow crawling situation. But still it is far more comfortable than compare to like DSG gearbox.
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Not turbo, HRV 2017, just replaced the EPB and transmission range sensor (one of the common problems in HRV), feel the transmission is rather week and tremble at low rpm, but after gear 3 (over 2000 rpm), it's smooth sailing
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Oct 25 2024, 02:58 PM)
Wanna bet its a 12v battery issue or not
Just unplug the 12v, wait 10 minutes, plug back the terminal and restart car
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12v battery can cause the car suddenly halted in the middle of the road during driving ?
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post Oct 25 2024, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Oct 25 2024, 08:09 PM)
12v battery can cause the car suddenly halted in the middle of the road during driving ?
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On newer cars with many electronics, yes.


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post Oct 26 2024, 06:35 PM

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