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post Oct 25 2024, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Oct 25 2024, 07:02 AM)
Some symptoms seem like normal behaviour of an anti-social person. So im still confused.
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He is not antisocial but super lazy. Laugh when it's not funny, cause the awkward situation. Repeat the same thing again and again, which is super annoying.

I believe different people have different symptoms. 
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post Oct 28 2024, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(DuFfz @ Oct 24 2024, 04:24 PM)
Nowadays it is more common due to better awareness, my eldest is mild autistic and he turns 8 this year still non-verbal, my brother-in-law first born daughter also autistic but on the more aggressive spectrum. I guess it runs in my wife's side of the family.
There are many theories of causes of autism i.e. heavy metal, food, supplement etc but to date not even one is conclusive.
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sorry to hear this.

erm, don't mind me asking, isn't non-verbal is at a higher autism spectrum level? It is still considered mild?

I believe there is a cause, I really hope scientist can make the discovery soon and a cure is discovered.
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post Oct 28 2024, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(Don't Troll me! @ Oct 25 2024, 01:34 PM)
He is not antisocial but super lazy. Laugh when it's not funny, cause the awkward situation. Repeat the same thing again and again, which is super annoying.

I believe different people have different symptoms. 
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but he is able to work and solve complex working issues, right?


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post Oct 28 2024, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Oct 24 2024, 05:02 PM)
The later birth age is definitely a contributor.

I think the biggest reason is that our society has generally gotten a lot safer, so taking care of an autistic child is actually possible. In the past, it would have meant their death.

Our technological advancement also favours autistic people. So those with slight autistic traits excel in their field and have a chance to pro-create, increasing the trait in the gene pool.
Autism got extreme cases also wan la, how much you intervene also difficult.
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Yup birth at later age has been proven to be the reason, statistically.

However, during my granny days, she gave birth to 8 children, her sister also gave birth to another 8, the 6th to 8th children were given birth when she was in her 40s, yet these issues does not happen.

I just suspect its more due to our modern living, we are living among more n more microplastics and pollution.


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post Oct 28 2024, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(abm @ Oct 24 2024, 02:23 PM)
During your youth your circle of friends is smaller. Like the examples you gave below only can happen later in life.

Also during your youth(mine as well) you may not notice autism even when you see it. Less awareness at that time.

It may also be cases has increased. No definite answer without proper statistics.
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my youth days, my social circles were very large.

in my school alone, I was very active in social clubs and sports.

I played football in my neighborhood area.

I was a scout and we social with other scouting groups.

I travelled a lot during festive holidays to my relative hometowns in other states (today I have no time to go).


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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 28 2024, 08:15 AM)
but he is able to work and solve complex working issues, right?
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It's like a normal person until he speaks. But muka ada macam sedikit cacat.
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post Oct 28 2024, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Don't Troll me! @ Oct 28 2024, 01:35 PM)
It's like a normal person until he speaks. But muka ada macam sedikit cacat.
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so how come he can get employed?

he work as a what?
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post Oct 28 2024, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 28 2024, 08:17 AM)
Yup birth at later age has been proven to be the reason, statistically.

However, during my granny days, she gave birth to 8 children, her sister also gave birth to another 8, the 6th to 8th children were given birth when she was in her 40s, yet these issues does not happen.

I just suspect its more due to our modern living, we are living among more n more microplastics and pollution.
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Having a child later in life, especially if it's your first, can come with more risks. Once you have your first child at a younger age, you're less prone to complications even if the next ones come later—at least that's what I've heard.

I'm personally rather surprised to read through this thread, as I didn't know it was that common. Fortunately, I don't personally know anyone in my circle whose child is autistic—at least not yet.

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post Oct 29 2024, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(black_Zer0 @ Oct 28 2024, 07:17 PM)
Having a child later in life, especially if it's your first, can come with more risks. Once you have your first child at a younger age, you're less prone to complications even if the next ones come later—at least that's what I've heard.

I'm personally rather surprised to read through this thread, as I didn't know it was that common. Fortunately, I don't personally know anyone in my circle whose child is autistic—at least not yet.
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I could not get any statistics that reflect this, that's why I created this thread.

Having said that, the thread rules does not dictate that I must come up with a study, I can create forum based on what I observe and I pose this observation to the forumers for their feedback.

However, there are cases that first child can get autism too. Some parents plan to have more children such as the 3rd or 4th child, then by the time they reach this stage, they are already in their mid 30s. So the risks are there too.


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post Oct 29 2024, 09:44 AM

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It's been existed for a long time, but the nonverbal Autism looks really obvious and quite a lot nowadays compared to last time.


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post Oct 29 2024, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(xpole @ Oct 29 2024, 09:44 AM)
It's been existed for a long time, but the nonverbal Autism looks really obvious and quite a lot nowadays compared to last time.
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other autistic spectrum is also noticeable.


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post Oct 29 2024, 10:18 AM

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Are you asking in Malaysia specifically? Beause a quick google search will give you the answer.
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post Oct 29 2024, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(black_Zer0 @ Oct 29 2024, 10:18 AM)
Are you asking in Malaysia specifically? Beause a quick google search will give you the answer.
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wow 663% increase !!!

https://ova.galencentre.org/number-of-child...m-2013-to-2023/

Number Of Children Diagnosed With Autism In Malaysia Increased By 663% From 2013 To 2023
The number of children with autism registered with the Department of Social Welfare (JKM) has been steadily rising, from 6,991 children in 2013 to 53,323 children in 2023.


https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2022/07/kh...ism-rates-rise/


KUALA LUMPUR, July 15 – Health Minister Khairy Jamaluddin said today that he will recommend to the Cabinet to form a National Autism Council, amid increasing numbers of autistic children in Malaysia.


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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 24 2024, 09:30 AM)
I don't really have the stats in Msia, just a discussion with you guys.

I don't know if you all feel the same way, but unlike my youth days I didn't meet a lot of people having autism issue until present day. Some may say it was due to awareness and education from internet and social media to help us know how an autistic person is like.

However, thinking back, I didn't really meet a lot of people who have autism.

But these days it appears to be more prevalent than before. I mean autistic kids, I love them, they are nice and cute, sometimes I volunteer to help out with the kids.

On the other hand, I felt a sense of concern because I notice how these kids are going to fit in the working life. I do try my best to help but I think today there are more and more of kids being diagnosed with autism than before.

For eg, in my office alone, I have a staff with 8 kids, 2 of his kids are autistic, another colleague from another dept he has 3 kids, 1 of his kid is autistic and then another colleague at another department, she has 3 kids, third one is autistic (non audible), then another colleague has 3 kids, 3rd one also autistic (non audible).

I went to a class reunion, we agreed to set up a few tables, 3 for adults and 2 for kids. during the party, the adults will rotate to the kids table to help take care of the kids, I found out of the 2 tables sitting, 2 kids are autistic.

Then 7 years ago, I befriended a friend, in the course of my volunteer work, who is also autistic, he is about 24yo. He can speak, a very nice guy, he can speak, except he is very naive...sometimes I am afraid that he may kena scam, he so easily trust people. And when he speaks he keeps repeating stuff, I am ok with that. Fortunately there is a co, that is helpful and hired him to do simple work.

So it all boils down to this: WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY?

Is it because of more awareness level, that more people are diagnosed with autism than 15 years ago?
Or is it because of pollution, the processed food we eat, microplastic issue absorb by the human body, the environment that is causing more autism cases? Of course to date scientist is unable to proof this, but its very concerning that more cases are out today.

I known some close friends who are spending 3k per month on special education for their kids, its become a significant financial spending for families.

There is no cure, there is no way one can detect autism in the womb. Some only find out when they notice the kid is not talking up to 2-3yo, depending on the severity of the autism spectrum.
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True, I agree with your points there, I also have a daughter who may/may not have autism, she is now 1 years and 4 months old and she can't speak anything yet and it gave me concern also the cost is too high. I read a lot now about autism and it seems there have been many research regarding this matter. I also read about human evolution because most autistic kids are very smart. Scientist have made assumptions that maybe we are evolving. big IF here. Anyway I have been close monitor my daughter and tried many ways to educate her to be able to speak even one words. Please pray for me and my family guys.

Cheers! biggrin.gif smile.gif

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Oct 24 2024, 10:15 AM)
I've been told in hindsight autism was more prevalent back in the day

Just that it was not recognised as such

And many of them die
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that's one school of thought.

these days, some with mild autism or functional autism also diagnosed.

People like Elon Musk and Top Gear host could also be autistic, but they are functionally autistic.
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Oct 24 2024, 08:34 PM)
food and environment.. maybe damages baby health in woman's body...

just how many women these days really jaga their makan when they pregnant? eat like usual..... everything got preservatives/ pesticides..

also I suspect got DNA damage too..
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Well yeah, after I have a daughter we have an appointment at KK every 1-3 months for shots. Hell I dun even know there are that many shots since birth. No wonder our dna already made 0.3% from medicine alone. We alter our genes since birth. hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Oct 29 2024, 02:38 PM

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i m a teacher.

i can confirmed that more autismic children nowadays and some are severe.
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QUOTE(syusham431 @ Oct 29 2024, 12:24 PM)
True, I agree with your points there, I also have a daughter who may/may not have autism, she is now 1 years and 4 months old and she can't speak anything yet and it gave me concern also the cost is too high.  I read a lot now about autism and it seems there have been many research regarding this matter.  I also read about human evolution because most autistic kids are very smart.  Scientist have made assumptions that maybe we are evolving. big IF here.  Anyway I have been close monitor my daughter and tried many ways to educate her to be able to speak even one words.  Please pray for me and my family guys.

Cheers! biggrin.gif  smile.gif
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I hope and pray the best for your daughter.

If you want clear the air, perhaps you can go see a child psychiatrist, and see if they can find ways to diagnose or advice you to wait until she is much older.

one of my staff, whose third child has autism, he suspected something when she was a baby, like when he played with her, her eyes was looking at elsewhere. his other 2 children when they were babies, they would have responded and laughed.

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QUOTE(teacherharvard @ Oct 29 2024, 02:38 PM)
i m a teacher.

i can confirmed that more autismic children nowadays and some are severe.
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https://ova.galencentre.org/number-of-child...m-2013-to-2023/

Number Of Children Diagnosed With Autism In Malaysia Increased By 663% From 2013 To 2023
The number of children with autism registered with the Department of Social Welfare (JKM) has been steadily rising, from 6,991 children in 2013 to 53,323 children in 2023.

https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2022/07/kh...ism-rates-rise/


KUALA LUMPUR, July 15 – Health Minister Khairy Jamaluddin said today that he will recommend to the Cabinet to form a National Autism Council, amid increasing numbers of autistic children in Malaysia.

these already confirmed it.
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Autism on the rise in Malaysia because many couple wed and have kids at later age above 32.


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