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Definition of T1, T5, T10, T15 etc, Income range
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TSfoofoosasa
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Oct 23 2024, 05:56 AM, updated 2y ago
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Actually wat Is the household income range for
T1 T5 T10 T15
simply guess and no official figure also. Or wait from rafizi come out his magic number. Any /k definition or proper statistic figure since many sherlock here.
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drug5
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Oct 23 2024, 06:05 AM
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I guess it’s hard to set a fixed income on T1 to T5.
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smallcrab
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Oct 23 2024, 06:17 AM
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T category yang sakit kepala
meanwhile B40 can goyang kaki and getting most of the benefits/subsidies
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Acoen
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Oct 23 2024, 06:24 AM
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Thank you for /k rm20k income earners tax contributions
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ramdieslow
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Oct 23 2024, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Oct 23 2024, 07:17 AM) T category yang sakit kepala meanwhile B40 can goyang kaki and getting most of the benefits/subsidies No one is stopping you to become B40 bro
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70U63
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Oct 23 2024, 06:35 AM
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While some B40 happy they get benefit from the gov, the upper class (hence in this case, T15) got even more benefit as they control a lot of things (economically). Yes, they pay more taxes, but they also enjoy 'better' living standard (that goods and services provided by M40 & B40 group).
Just B40 too narrow minded, can't see only.
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GagalLand
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Oct 23 2024, 06:47 AM
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Why do you care?
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TSfoofoosasa
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Oct 23 2024, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Oct 23 2024, 06:43 AM) https://www.dosm.gov.my/portal-main/release...alaysia--statesI tried to estimate using chat gpt. Based on median income, Top15% = 14k and top 50 richest wealth growth to get the idea of the graph. But my chat gpt reach limit   Household income 14k honestly not a lot. If 2 person husband and wife it means only 7k per person. So /k 20k per months means approaching T5?
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red_satu
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Oct 23 2024, 06:50 AM
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From the other thread about tax payer ranking, it seems to me that the better way to judge earnings isn't the annual income, but the taxes paid since it already covers deductions as needed. So about RM10K income tax.
But just income tax isn't enough, as there's too many untracked. Probably need to check dividends as well for those passive earners.
Oh wait.
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Lembu Goreng
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Oct 23 2024, 06:53 AM
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TLDR: Govt is still studying, have not defined what is T15
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ganz
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Oct 23 2024, 06:53 AM
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QUOTE(70U63 @ Oct 23 2024, 06:35 AM) While some B40 happy they get benefit from the gov, the upper class (hence in this case, T15) got even more benefit as they control a lot of things (economically). Yes, they pay more taxes, but they also enjoy 'better' living standard (that goods and services provided by M40 & B40 group). Just B40 too narrow minded, can't see only. U think t15 just lay back and doing nothing to get paid as t15? They deserve better standard since they work for it.. Hahahaha
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achong09
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Oct 23 2024, 06:55 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Oct 23 2024, 05:56 AM) Actually wat Is the household income range for T1 T5 T10 T15 simply guess and no official figure also. Or wait from rafizi come out his magic number. Any /k definition or proper statistic figure since many sherlock here. What if few months back under T15 but then lately just lose job so classified under what category leh ?
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achong09
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Oct 23 2024, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE(ganz @ Oct 23 2024, 06:53 AM) U think t15 just lay back and doing nothing to get paid as t15? They deserve better standard since they work for it.. Hahahaha What if suddenly t15 got retrenched so become what category Liao?
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TSfoofoosasa
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Oct 23 2024, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE(ganz @ Oct 23 2024, 06:53 AM) U think t15 just lay back and doing nothing to get paid as t15? They deserve better standard since they work for it.. Hahahaha If T15 means 14k household income which is not a lot, can proof that so many parasite in our economy. Exclude those tax evader of course
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munak991
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Oct 23 2024, 07:02 AM
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Meanwhile all calculate how much t15 t20 household income.
I my self thinking how much does a B40 individual spend from the govt benefits
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Skylinestar
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Oct 23 2024, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Oct 23 2024, 06:48 AM) Household income 14k honestly not a lot. If 2 person husband and wife it means only 7k per person. So /k 20k per months means approaching T5? how is 14k not a lot? couple can share using air conditioner. tour with hotel also no need to pay extra for single supplement.
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Mattrock
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Oct 23 2024, 07:48 AM
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Hey, you missed the part where you explain where how you going to get the 'pendapatan kasar' from. Obviously it cannot be based on salary slip.
Say a retiree who has no work income has 2M in EPF and 2M is ASNB, He will roughly get dividend income of 200k per year. Are you taking this into account? I doubt it.
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sonypshomer
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Oct 23 2024, 08:04 AM
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Just follow LHDN, the more tax u pay the more a"T"as u r
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sunami
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Oct 23 2024, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Oct 23 2024, 07:50 AM) From the other thread about tax payer ranking, it seems to me that the better way to judge earnings isn't the annual income, but the taxes paid since it already covers deductions as needed. So about RM10K income tax. But just income tax isn't enough, as there's too many untracked. Probably need to check dividends as well for those passive earners. Oh wait. If based on 10k tax income tax is very less tbh...
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sunami
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Oct 23 2024, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Oct 23 2024, 08:47 AM) how is 14k not a lot? couple can share using air conditioner. tour with hotel also no need to pay extra for single supplement. 14k alot? Damn....
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sunami
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Oct 23 2024, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(achong09 @ Oct 23 2024, 07:57 AM) What if suddenly t15 got retrenched so become what category Liao? Kecian category
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TSfoofoosasa
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Oct 23 2024, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Oct 23 2024, 07:47 AM) how is 14k not a lot? couple can share using air conditioner. tour with hotel also no need to pay extra for single supplement. U single or got family?if single yes 14k is a lot. I got 2 kids, housing loan and car loan, kids Education, insurance etc etc seriously barely enough. But this labelled as rich category already by gov. Lol
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FlamingFox
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Oct 23 2024, 08:46 AM
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If you're born into a rich family, then get to drive sports cars and stuff. But you have no income because dadikasi, can get subsidized Ron95 price?
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achong09
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Oct 23 2024, 08:48 AM
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max_cavalera
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Oct 23 2024, 08:50 AM
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According to madani gomen average national T15 is household income rm13k and above..
What nonsense, even my wife her celery plus passive income already near that not including me yet
Live like normal m40 plebs woso. Cheap ass apt, cheap ass single car.
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munak991
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Oct 23 2024, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Oct 23 2024, 08:46 AM) If you're born into a rich family, then get to drive sports cars and stuff. But you have no income because dadikasi, can get subsidized Ron95 price? Maybe fuel subsidies is tied with car plate owner
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azbro
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Oct 23 2024, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(Acoen @ Oct 23 2024, 06:24 AM) Thank you for /k rm20k income earners tax contributions Actually, it's lower than that It seems 13K per house hold (unofficially). So many in K will also be in this group.
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sam378
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Oct 23 2024, 08:54 AM
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Thank you golongan T tolong golongan B
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Skylinestar
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Oct 23 2024, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Oct 23 2024, 08:53 AM) Actually, it's lower than that It seems 13K per house hold (unofficially). So many in K will also be in this group. father 5k, mother 5k, ktard 5k. household 15k. T15 lettew.
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lkyoong
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Oct 23 2024, 09:41 AM
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T1 T5 T10 T15 T20 all determined by data... if you dun declare and all hide in tin can under bed, safe inside room or even better get safe house with safe.
Even a T1 can look like M40
This is why many T1 to T20 die die dun want to register PADU. They rather people dun know they are T1-T20 and keep quiet.
How you think gov so clever can decide 2% dividend tax for 2025. They got data and you can guess where that data comes from. Only the T* group will buy more then 200k shares in Maybank. The upper level M40 even if they buy also 5 - 10k shares at most.
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commonsense
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Oct 23 2024, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Oct 23 2024, 05:56 AM) Actually wat Is the household income range for T1 T5 T10 T15 simply guess and no official figure also. Or wait from rafizi come out his magic number. Any /k definition or proper statistic figure since many sherlock here. Why u want to do it the hard way. Consumption tax is the natural way that will efficiently tax more on those who have higher spending power, hence the real maha kaya. Why gov want to susah susah define this T category. Think about it
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SUSfuzzy
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Oct 23 2024, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE KUALA LUMPUR, May 30 — How much do you need to be in the top 1 per cent of your country’s population in terms of wealth?
Just US$485,000 (or over RM2.2 million using today’s currency rates) in net wealth in Malaysia is all it takes for you to be categorised as the richest one per cent here, or to be richer than 99 per cent of the Malaysian population, according to property consultancy Knight Frank’s latest report.
Here you go. T1 should not get any subsidy. RM2.2mil but complain about petrol price.
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uk9089
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Oct 23 2024, 10:00 AM
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If me and my wife income = RM20k gross, Net RM16k with 2 kids. Does it mean under T20?
I dont feel like T20, me always no money. Nursery RM1,500/month each kid.
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gamehype
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Oct 23 2024, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(lkyoong @ Oct 23 2024, 09:41 AM) T1 T5 T10 T15 T20 all determined by data... if you dun declare and all hide in tin can under bed, safe inside room or even better get safe house with safe. Even a T1 can look like M40 This is why many T1 to T20 die die dun want to register PADU. They rather people dun know they are T1-T20 and keep quiet.How you think gov so clever can decide 2% dividend tax for 2025. They got data and you can guess where that data comes from. Only the T* group will buy more then 200k shares in Maybank. The upper level M40 even if they buy also 5 - 10k shares at most. If your income is regular monthly salary, confirm LHDN will have your income details. They don't register because what is the point for them? Its likely they won't get any subsidy anyways, so they don't bother lo.
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