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TSKeyMochi
post Oct 21 2024, 08:34 AM, updated 7 months ago

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Hi all.

As per subject so let me give you a bit of background.

I went to a local motorsports academy open day recently and they are offering a program to kickstart car racing journey. They have various packages but one that stands out is to buy a Suzuki Swift complete equipped with all the necessities (bucket seat, coilovers and other mods) not to mention unlimited access to their theory classes and mentoring. Basically the car is track ready upon purchase and price quoted includes classes and mentoring. They have a roadmap on how they going to groom their students from absolute beginners to season debut at local circuit to compete in their own championship.

I see this as an opportunity of a lifetime and I thought finally I found what I always wanted since kid. Problem is, I need to pay at least 50% of the total cost to secure my place in the academy and tbh I don't have that kind of cash stash somewhere. I've been thinking non stop since that day on how can I earn that deposit amount before they jack the price next year.

I earn round 120k/year. Married with a kid who's still in kindergarten. Have no long term loan under my name except for my daily. Credit card paid in full every month without fail. Maxing out the card is out of option since I use it for household expenditures.

Really need some sound advice from the community as I can't stop taking my mind off this.
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post Oct 21 2024, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Anubis77 @ Oct 21 2024, 08:52 AM)
Additional factors for your consideration:
- Age group? 20-30, 31-40, 41-50?
- Is this a hobby or you planing to go professional?
- Is wife earning income?
- Own a house? Fully paid?
- Do you do budgets every month?
- Do you invest? How much a month?
- Do you save? How much savings a month?
- Own's estimation on driving talent? Have you competed in GoKarts before? (Generally you graduate from Gokarts before going into production car racing.
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20-30
Plan to go pro
Not at the moment
Renting since not ready to commit yet
Put 200 a month in bursa gold dinar
Few hundreds in cash savings per month
Competed in gokarts before. Not my cup of tea. Went to few advance driving courses before. Instructors told i got talent and passion can go far with right training.
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post Oct 21 2024, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(key3hky @ Oct 21 2024, 08:53 AM)
50% DP is alot...how credible is this local sports academy? Any track records and have you considered if they were to wind down after 2-3 years?
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Search for Kenny Lee and Kegani Racing Academy
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post Oct 21 2024, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(nes @ Oct 21 2024, 08:56 AM)
Ask yourself whether this is something you "want" or you "need"? Again think about the financial planning including the opportunity costs that you and your family are going to face because of your decision. If you are not able to buy it outright, meaning you can't afford it therefore you shouldn't finance it.
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True hence why this thought is conflicting with my stand on personal loan. I saw what it did to my dad last time and other horror stories out there. Then again, opportunity don't come often and I don't want to have deep regret later down the road.
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post Oct 21 2024, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(stanck @ Oct 21 2024, 09:30 AM)
So fast mid life crisis?
Stay with your job and just target for hobby. At 20 - 30, will u have income while in academy?
U don't makan, kiddo has to makan daily.
Instructor say u got talent - could be a sales gimmick.

Its your life, your choice.
All the best.
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Its not full time brader classes/training on weekends even that not every weekend. I dont think too early la for me assuming i live until 60 nows the perfect time lel
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post Oct 21 2024, 03:52 PM

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Thank you all the advice. Judging from some stories here it really is scary to burn that kind of money.
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post Oct 21 2024, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 21 2024, 11:45 AM)
i would discourage against it.
just earn more until you don't need a loan, or at least, can comfortably get a loan without the need to seek validation on a forum.

now, about bolded, no. there will be opportunity(ies) coming up all the time. don't be FOMO
your annual income is too low to burn on motorsports. i earning very slightly more than you, also just having a 2 soon to be 3 years old son. and i've been inactive from motorsports since 2019 just repairing/rebuilding my finances that was in ruin (and motorsports was a huge contributing factor)
back in 2018 2019 i only had debts, no savings. today i got some savings that can be resilient a comfortable duration in case i do lose my job
my point being, chances are motorsports is only going to be a casual stint or hobby, and if you're not going pro with it,  you have no business taking huge financial risks with it.

just curious, who? Kenny/Kegani racing?
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https://www.driverdb.com/drivers/kenny-lee
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post Oct 21 2024, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Zer0 c00L @ Oct 21 2024, 04:56 PM)
i think you're probably at one of those crossroads in life where you need to decide your priorities and make sacrifices given that we're typical normal average salary earning folk
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Some say midlife crisis. I think this is it haha. The message here is loud and clear and I probably should listen to these guys given that of them are much older and wiser than me.
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post Oct 22 2024, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(68 others @ Oct 22 2024, 07:28 AM)
bro, ignore those who says no.
Its a one in a life time opportunity.
Things will not happen if you think rationally.
Most of the talent are dead in the country because they take advise from their parent, neighbour, uncle aunty.
Just go with your heart and do your best. There will be no regret in your life.
Most of the people here never even been in a track or drive decent car.
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Damn bro y u gotta be like this 😭
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post Oct 22 2024, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(68 others @ Oct 22 2024, 07:37 AM)
just do your best and the money will be well spent.
you are buying a lifetime opportunity where other people never experiance it before.
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This is the exact same thought I had but now, idk bro. Maybe you right but they also right.
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post Oct 22 2024, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(Anubis77 @ Oct 22 2024, 08:44 AM)
No right or wrong in life decisions. Just need to focus on what your priorities are.
if you focus on yourself, then race forward. Wife and Family will have to sacrifice while you use resources for self entirely.
if you focus on family, then forget about it. You sacrifice your desires... save / invest money in things which can grow your wealth so you and family can have better standard of living.
or find some middle ground... take % of your income for racing hobby or for investments.

only advise is to plan ahead to anticipate any challenges (be it your racing desire or wealth growing opportunities) so that you have back ups if things go bad.
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Wise words indeed. Thanks bro and have a good week ahead.
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post Oct 22 2024, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(bo093 @ Oct 22 2024, 09:06 AM)
Why go through the academy?
Why not a sim rig (less than 2k to start) and learn yourself?
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I actively play sim albeit not my own (play at sim centre). I guess its similar to those ppl who prefers airsoft/paintball than COD.
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post Oct 22 2024, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(180jin @ Oct 22 2024, 10:01 AM)
Hi TS,

First of all thank you for availing your time to join the Open Day, must be the one that was held 2 days ago on Sunday.

I'm one of the early batch of the student and I've been with the academy for 3 years now. I signed up in late 2021 (or was it early 2022) after a lot of deep consideration. Soon after I've completed the trainings in around few months and made my race debut in June 2022 (not using the Swift), and also had the privilege to participate in a 25 hours endurance race in Thailand at the end of 2022 and we took P3 in our category (out of 10 cars).

I then have raced with my Swift in 2023 and 2024. I was P3 overall championship (out of 7 cars), and now P2 in overall standings with just one more race to go and just 10 points away from P1 (each position in MSF is 10 points from each other, so everything is still up for grabs)

Things that went through your mind regarding financial commitments have also been in my mind during consideration, and still in my mind now. No doubt racing is one of the sports that demands a very high (if not highest) commitment in terms of time, energy, finance, and also to a certain extent, character (because there's stress and pressure you need to be able to handle, and recovering from failure / mistakes / learnings)

It'll be a lot elaborate here so if you want to know more and bounce thoughts regarding your concerns, DM me and we can meet up for coffee

Disclaimer: I'm not a professional, I still have a day job that is not related to cars / racing / automotive, and no intention of quitting that

To also show that I'm not BS-ing, feel free to check out my profile (and follow too, that would mean a lot to me)
https://www.instagram.com/andyboey/

Best Regards,
Andy Boey
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Finally someone from the team noticed this post. Yeah you right I was from open day 2 days ago. Even after collecting opinions and advice from here and other forums, I still can't get this out of my mind completely. I would say 80% of me has decided I should let this go and wait for another 2-3 years before committing to SkillDrvn while in between just join advance driving class when I can. Then again, the thought still bothers me till now. But yeah sure I'll DM u on insta when convenient. Even Kenny talked me through this briefly on that day but idk. Cheers man!
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post Oct 22 2024, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 22 2024, 03:07 PM)
I just let you know bro what happened to a friend of mine who kitted out his car. Got everything for it and he started drifting and joining competitions. Then covid hit and then he got a kid. Had to sell the car and even the parts he got for the car cannot be sold (too used) and he's struggling to support the child of his.

Im a dad for a almost 4 year old boy and we won't know when or if a covid pandemic will hit us again and by that time you will be desperate to find money for the rental and feeding your child. Mind you during those years of covid schools were still collecting school fees.

The moment you had your child you should have kissed all your wants and needs good bye. Should save up to get a home or even for his education which will cost a bomb.

But let's just say you really want this, you have to make sure you max out your responsibility as a parent to him and coming from a person who owns a business and makes around 20k over a month. Nothing scares the shit out of me than another lock down or I am bed ridden

Here's my die die savings for my family
SSPN max 8k per year
Prs max 3k per year
Savings minimum 800 myr per month (I usually hit 1.5k)
Investments minimum 800 to 1k myr
Insurance
Life insurance..myr 800 month
medical insurance. His and mine 500 myr to 600 my per month  You going into racing means your medical insurance will be "special" due to the dangers of being a racer.
House loan 2k per month
Son's kindi 10.6k per annum

My 10 year old car is slowly breaking down and everyone has been telling me to change that junk but I always answer them not until I send my boy off to Uni

Before thinking of stepping into this, make sure you get your finance and responsibilities as a parent and husband right. Don't go dying and leaving them with nothing. Then you go applying a personal loan for a hobby before getting a home is the shittiest thing a parent can do. Sorry to be harsh
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Not at all brother. The fact that you put a lot of money for your son and wife is crazy i dont think i can come close to that though I have necessities like life insurance, edu savings etc for daughter as well as my wife's needs in order. Hence why i post this tered in the first place might need a slap or two to make sense of what im about to get into before its too late. Cheers man!

This post has been edited by KeyMochi: Oct 22 2024, 04:48 PM
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post Jun 11 2025, 03:02 PM

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Wah still got people replying this tered.

Updates? Well I didn't go through with the initial plan. I save up a bit, bought a Proton Savvy manual for cheap, replace whatever I can and practice manual driving.

I was supposed to join an autocross event last month but Savvy being Savvy, crank sensor went kaput the night before.

All hopes are not lost. I spoke to some people around and turns out there are opportunities I can grab by joining those small2 events. Need to do some networking of course.

All in all, my passion in motorsports is still burning but I'm doing it smartly.

Thank you all for the kind advice and sharing your experience. Much love 🫰🏼
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post Jun 11 2025, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Spitzer @ Jun 11 2025, 02:40 PM)
How's it going? Updates?

Are you already in the local touge scene, weekend drives, typical famous modified car workshops events in PJ/Sunway etc

The above helps alot in giving you an entrée of performance oriented car driving and all the untold costs, and might even be enough to satisfy the urge for "motorsports", because it damn well did for myself and alot others of like minded folks.

Among friends in the weekend touge scene, there are those that wants even a step further, but not full-blown raceteam, so they're into GT 7 world series races, and their online races - one of them got very close to qualify in malaysia's nation cup, which entails him travelling to europe if he won, but ain't nobody knows or cares who comes 2nd or 3rd place lol.

Don't laugh, but if you're innately good at proper simracing game (gt7/iracing etc) - you can bet your ass you 100% have talent in real life peformance car driving, as told from my friend who casually got gold trophy for all license tests by quite a margin: "It's not about how realistic or true to life this Cayman S ingame is as compared to your real car bro, it's about how you can TELL the characteristic of the car you're currently driving ingame, and adapt to it's quirks and extract the performance from there"

Well, that shut me up nicely because i was making excuses on how GT7 is so fake or how come so many car handling macam sampan, tyre tarak grip, brek abit then spin, lanciao impossible to get gold trophy on nurburgring without dq's etc etc. And true enough... this fella could powerslide, rotate and screech his tyre to hell in real life driving, when the rest of us - the moment steering feel light already kecut bola and car goyang goyang lol, so you might want to see if you have talent in actual sim-racing GAME. (important emphasis on what simracing game you're playing, if it's forza/need for speed or some other initial D arcade game, those are pointless games, you need real racing sim games)
https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt7/champio.../2025/overview/

edit: more links https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/live/ ,some example of how huge this e-sports scene for simracers, if you're a hidden gem - you might even get signed onto an international raceteam.
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I have GT7 on my PS5 but somehow I still go back to EA WRC or DiRT 2.0 . There's something about rally that hits different compared to circuit racing.

I myself had done countless unspeakable things with my Savvy and daily. I can't forget the first time I did heel and toe my wife said I'm gonna break the car by revving the car that way, disregarding the fact that there wasn't any jerking during the downshift lol.
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post Jun 13 2025, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 12 2025, 02:00 PM)
savvy punya hp and technology limits ur ability.
buy those car from wrc game wei
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Kenot la bro. Until i confident my skills outgrow little savvy, i wont change car for now.

 

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