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 Lemon? Proton X70 2025 Engine Vibration, December 9th Update(Different SC)

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post Nov 22 2024, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 26 2024, 12:38 PM)
Normal especially when you record video, it will be very obvious shaking due to the video fps something.
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Totally understand but the vibration can be feel inside the cabin though.

QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 26 2024, 12:43 PM)
X70 3 pots using normal rubber engine mounts or fludic engine mounts?
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The head foreman told me it's "fluid" kind of engine mount.

QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Oct 26 2024, 04:47 PM)
More reason why anyone should consider emas7 over X70
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I think PHEV would be my next choice in the future. Not into fully electric car yet.

QUOTE(lee82gx @ Oct 26 2024, 07:07 PM)
I can say only start engine crank was vibrating enough to be felt, during my X70 facelift test drive 1 month ago.
Other than that not much, and not enough to be noticable.
I know and I can feel the additional vibration from the 3 cylinder engine through the low RPM's but it is very very mild, not the type to shake me up.

So, I suggest to TS that if more than 1 person can tell the difference then its valid to complain.

But tyre pressure should indeed be checked. I personally like a slight lower pressure for comfort than factory spec.

The DCT gearbox is very very lively if accelerating, hopefully TS can differentiate this from the "engine vibrating".
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I can say that the vibration is like our phone vibration where notification comes in or phone ringing. Is that kind of vibration that you have?

Friends and family said they could feel the vibration more obvious when it's in the drive seat but SC saying nothing is abnormal.

I tested out 220 to 240kPA. Factory came with 300kPA when I first picked up the car.
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post Nov 22 2024, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Nov 22 2024, 02:21 PM)
Thanks! I didn't know got pre-reg inspection. Was looking for a lot of tips on how to avoid lemon unit but yet never see people suggesting thing.

Definitely would keep this in mind with my next purchase.
thanks for your honest opinion.

I do understand about the harshness but seen a lot of YouTube review saying that they don't feel any vibration at all. Not sure whether those reviewer saying the truth.

Even asking them on the comment section, they said they felt 0 vibration in the interior seat. Not sure I am the one being sensitive. But I can really feel vibration when stop and go as well as low rpm speed.

I went to the SC that I bought the car from, currently the head foreman said that's 3 cylinder car, nothing much to expect.

I can feel the difference in smoothness of their test unit (which is being abused) and mine and yet their test drive unit is better in handling the vibration.

But vibration thing is very subjective, hard to argue with them even already spoken with their GM. They can't do much for me except my car break down..
Oh yes! I rented a bezza before as well, I don't feel the harshness as what my brand new x70 2025 did.
Thanks for your sharing!

I also get the typical reply of "this is 3 cylinder car" "I don't feel any abnormal here" "Use first, would get better in long run"

Getting myself so much trouble after getting this x70, most regret decision that I ever made. Went to SC for about 7-8 times in a single month. wasting a lot of time and energy.
I test drive for two units where the session is rather short so I might not notice or paying attention to.

Then I reconfirm the smoothness by watching a lot of YouTube review where those reviewer said 0 vibration.

I do have the video and will upload soon.
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Have you ever heard of paid review? Those youtubers you think they do for free? whistling.gif

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post Nov 22 2024, 02:09 PM

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I sat in X90, same engine, I don't feel it running at all, only the RPM indicating engine is running
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post Nov 22 2024, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Nov 22 2024, 01:24 PM)

I can say that the vibration is like our phone vibration where notification comes in or phone ringing. Is that kind of vibration that you have?

Friends and family said they could feel the vibration more obvious when it's in the drive seat but SC saying nothing is abnormal.

I tested out 220 to 240kPA. Factory came with 300kPA when I first picked up the car.
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Still a bit vague. This is starting car vibration or vibration during idle, or vibration during acceleration or vibration during constant speed?

When friends and family say vibration more obvious, which part of above?

Vibration from the seat to your body ONLY or whole car including dashboard, chassis vibrate?

Vibration of a phone - if you mean it feels like the phone is in your pocket and ringing, that's pretty strong...end of the day is it worse than a test drive car?
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post Nov 22 2024, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Nov 22 2024, 01:40 PM)
Have you ever heard of paid review? Those youtubers you think they do for free?  whistling.gif
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So sad to see the entire industry behave that way. 🤦‍♂️ was thinking wouldn’t be all reviewers given the same positive review.

QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 22 2024, 02:09 PM)
I sat in X90, same engine, I don't feel it running at all, only the RPM indicating engine is running
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Idle is still okay. But once it get goings at low rpm, my unit rattling like it’s underpowered.

The feeling of when I’m driving a manual car and not giving enough of gas on that particular gear.

QUOTE(lee82gx @ Nov 22 2024, 02:28 PM)
Still a bit vague. This is starting car vibration or vibration during idle, or vibration during acceleration or vibration during constant speed?

When friends and family say vibration more obvious, which part of above?

Vibration from the seat to your body ONLY or whole car including dashboard, chassis vibrate?

Vibration of a phone - if you mean it feels like the phone is in your pocket and ringing, that's pretty strong...end of the day is it worse than a test drive car?
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The vibration during idle but that is rather similar to the test unit.
The smoothness and vibration when get going on traffic or low speed is very obvious. Something like bouncing and vibration in manual car when we having too low speed in that particular gear.

Yes it’s vibration from seat to body. The kind of feel is almost like a iPhone vibration for me but it spread through the whole seat. I don’t feel such that much of vibration when I’m at passenger or rear backseat
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QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 22 2024, 02:09 PM)
I sat in X90, same engine, I don't feel it running at all, only the RPM indicating engine is running
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Bet TS get malfunction engine mounting. If it me push for warranty claim on engine mounting
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post Nov 22 2024, 03:31 PM

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post Nov 22 2024, 04:22 PM

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Which part of East Malaysia TS from? If Kuching, I see a lot of ppl would recommend going to Supernau over the other M*nau. TS you can also join x70 owner club Facebook group too. I own a 2019 1.8T CBU, is still a comfy ride after many years.
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if during low RPM get go, then maybe is crank angle sensor or TCU not ngam
is there a Low gear on this thing? try Low gear get go and see?
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post Nov 22 2024, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 22 2024, 03:28 PM)
Bet TS get malfunction engine mounting. If it me push for warranty claim on engine mounting
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Went to SC for 7-8 times already since I picked up my car on 18th of Oct.. foreman insist no problem with the car

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I can feel when aircond is kick in, the vibration becomes more obvious.

QUOTE(PaiKiaa @ Nov 22 2024, 04:22 PM)
Which part of East Malaysia TS from? If Kuching, I see a lot of ppl would recommend going to Supernau over the other M*nau. TS you can also join x70 owner club Facebook group too. I own a 2019 1.8T CBU, is still a comfy ride after many years.
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Thanks a lot for your help but unfortunately I’m from KK Sabah.

I joined x70 owner group but recently I think get muted after posting several discussion about my car vibrates..

They won’t approve my post anymore zz
QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 22 2024, 04:32 PM)
if during low RPM get go, then maybe is crank angle sensor or TCU not ngam
is there a Low gear on this thing? try Low gear get go and see?
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How to confirm about this? My foreman said what he can do for me is loosen the engine mounting and retightened it.

This x70 have manual mode to shift manually
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post Nov 22 2024, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Nov 22 2024, 05:31 PM)
Went to SC for 7-8 times already since I picked up my car on 18th of Oct.. foreman insist no problem with the car
I can feel when aircond is kick in, the vibration becomes more obvious.
Thanks a lot for your help but unfortunately I’m from KK Sabah.

I joined x70 owner group but recently I think get muted after posting several discussion about my car vibrates..

They won’t approve my post anymore zz

How to confirm about this? My foreman said what he can do for me is loosen the engine mounting and retightened it.

This x70 have manual mode to shift manually
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Ts, go to other SC then. I know many Proton SC not liking for warranty claim works cz less profit to them. If normal service paying customer, they happy.

Once u raise complaint, it is recorded on that sheet of paper. If the problem persist, u can take that paper, and email to Proton HQ. Sure the SC manager will get call from HQ for explanation.

But for me, good SC play parts, if any issues, they try by replacing parts under warranty. In my case, juddering brake at high speed. 3S Kelana Jaya SC replaced my rotor straight under warranty. While some SC ask to do skim under warranty, and one worst sc ask to pay for new pad only they proceed with skim under warranty

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Oct 20 2024, 09:01 PM)
Oh yes, I have tried the test drive car. Its vibration is something that not noticeable if you don’t pay attention to.

SA said because my car is still new that’s why. I’m speechless
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vehicle vibrations gets worse over time not better.
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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Nov 22 2024, 05:31 PM)
Went to SC for 7-8 times already since I picked up my car on 18th of Oct.. foreman insist no problem with the car
I can feel when aircond is kick in, the vibration becomes more obvious.
Thanks a lot for your help but unfortunately I’m from KK Sabah.

I joined x70 owner group but recently I think get muted after posting several discussion about my car vibrates..

They won’t approve my post anymore zz

How to confirm about this? My foreman said what he can do for me is loosen the engine mounting and retightened it.

This x70 have manual mode to shift manually
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Honestly my kancil vibrates worse than tat yet i cannot feel the vibration under my seat. Just saying.....
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post Dec 9 2024, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 22 2024, 09:08 PM)
Ts, go to other SC then. I know many Proton SC not liking for warranty claim works cz less profit to them. If normal service paying customer, they happy.

Once u raise complaint, it is recorded on that sheet of paper. If the problem persist, u can take that paper, and email to Proton HQ. Sure the SC manager will get call from HQ for explanation.

But for me, good SC play parts, if any issues, they try by replacing parts under warranty. In my case, juddering brake at high speed. 3S Kelana Jaya SC replaced my rotor straight under warranty. While some SC ask to do skim under warranty, and one worst sc ask to pay for new pad only they proceed with skim under warranty
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Nov 22 2024, 09:11 PM)
vehicle vibrations gets worse over time not better.
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Nov 22 2024, 09:18 PM)
Honestly my kancil vibrates worse than tat yet i cannot feel the vibration under my seat. Just saying.....
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Thanks all for helping. Just a quick update.

After sent to do alignment and balancing, but after the alignment and balancing at SC, my brake pedal become squishy and juddering(vibrating), it's even more worse than before. Anybody know that causes of these?
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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Nov 22 2024, 05:31 PM)
Went to SC for 7-8 times already since I picked up my car on 18th of Oct.. foreman insist no problem with the car
I can feel when aircond is kick in, the vibration becomes more obvious.
Thanks a lot for your help but unfortunately I’m from KK Sabah.

I joined x70 owner group but recently I think get muted after posting several discussion about my car vibrates..

They won’t approve my post anymore zz

How to confirm about this? My foreman said what he can do for me is loosen the engine mounting and retightened it.

This x70 have manual mode to shift manually
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What is the name of the owners group ? Best to avoid groups that tries to conceals or suppress the truth. You definately won't find any answers in such a group.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 10 2024, 07:18 AM)
What is the name of the owners group ? Best to avoid groups that tries to conceals or suppress the truth. You definately won't find any answers in such a group.
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or it may be TS over reacting in the group while spaming with similar topic and get blocked.
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QUOTE(68 others @ Dec 10 2024, 07:37 AM)
or it may be TS over reacting in the group while spaming with similar topic and get blocked.
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Nah TS had never spammed here, doubt he would do that somewhere else either. TS genuinely is facing an issue with his X70 and the issues needs to be addressed. Likewise is it with my clients batteries, if there is something wrong, I need to address the issue with my clients, so that they understand what is required of them to keep their Century Battery lasting longer, whether it's improper usage or a defective charging system. I havent met any client who does not appreciate an honest diagnostic test result and a honest opinion. Except for 1 guy, who wondered WTF was I talking about, after checking his charging system had failed and informing him that there would be no battery warranty, until his charging system failure is rectified. Come to thinking it ,gila wei I, what if he changed his mind and don't want to pay after telling him there is no warranty. Hmmm
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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Dec 9 2024, 03:57 PM)
Thanks all for helping. Just a quick update.

After sent to do alignment and balancing, but after the alignment and balancing at SC, my brake pedal become squishy and juddering(vibrating), it's even more worse than before. Anybody know that causes of these?
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If they did not touch anything else, the main suspect would be bad alignment and balancing.
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Ask them to show you another x70
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proton give a lot of free things, free vibration, free engine sound

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