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TSRChance
post Oct 20 2024, 03:59 PM, updated 2y ago

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Hello guys, moving to a new place and I need recommendation for my setup. Consider myself a noob here so please give your suggestions!

Not sure if this is relevant but my living room will be 20ft x 27ft

Looking at 75 inch or 85 inch tv
Potentially a home theatre setup with basic surround sound etc.

Again I have no idea how to go about this so please throw your ideas and recommendation and I would reply if you need more info!! Thank you!

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Budget for TV : 5-10k (Depends on size)
Sound system : 5-10k (initially looking at Sonos? Not sure if this is doable)

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post Oct 20 2024, 04:25 PM

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Anything from the lg oled range is fine, even the cheapest ones have perfect picture quality. Just might loose some features like 120hz and stuff

But audio don’t buy lg. I personally use Samsung but if you can afford 85inch I’m assuming you can afford the best, ie sonos arc ultra and sub 4 and 2 300s for Dolby atmos surrounds
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post Oct 20 2024, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Oct 20 2024, 04:25 PM)
Anything from the lg oled range is fine, even the cheapest ones have perfect picture quality. Just might loose some features like 120hz and stuff

But audio don’t buy lg. I personally use Samsung but if you can afford 85inch I’m assuming you can afford the best, ie sonos arc ultra and sub 4 and 2 300s for Dolby atmos surrounds
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Thank you. Is there any specific model? I was at the LG thread and there was alot of discussion on dead pixels.

Honestly I don't mind 120hz. For casual gaming and just spending time watching movie, netflix and YouTube with the family. I am not expecting the best.

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post Oct 21 2024, 01:57 PM

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When people create these kinda threads, I always think, "Wow, these rich people with no budget constraints."

Only later do they post their working budget. Am I right?
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post Oct 21 2024, 02:45 PM

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ur living hall area yes big, but once put the sofa, need to calculate viewer distance between it.

i believe ur seating area could not far at wall.

maybe 65inch TV enough.
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post Oct 21 2024, 02:48 PM

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search some guide for distance view
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post Oct 21 2024, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Oct 21 2024, 01:57 PM)
When people create these kinda threads, I always think, "Wow, these rich people with no budget constraints."

Only later do they post their working budget. Am I right?
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Agree. You don't know what you don't know. I am aware 75" price is really different from 85".

Would it be possible for TV budget between 5k to 10k? And same for the theatre system around 5k to 10k?

Again consider myself as a newbie in this range. So I am not here to get the best of the best due to my casual usage.

QUOTE(cawan @ Oct 21 2024, 02:45 PM)
ur living hall area yes big, but once put the sofa, need to calculate viewer distance between it.

i believe ur seating area could not far at wall.

maybe 65inch TV enough.
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QUOTE(Autocountstick @ Oct 21 2024, 02:48 PM)
search some guide for distance view
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14 ft from TV to sofa. The guide I saw recommends more 85" for 12 feet.

But I agree I still feel 75" would be enough. But do you think it makes sense for 65"? I'm open for suggestions.

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please specify a budget before you ask for suggestions
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post Oct 21 2024, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(RChance @ Oct 21 2024, 03:18 PM)
Would it be possible for TV budget between 5k to 10k? And same for the theatre system around 5k to 10k?
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Don't know much about TV at 75". Other's can chime in.

If you want a clean setup with minimal wires, the new Bravia Theater Quad is at RM11,500 without the subwoofer. You'd need the SA-SW5 subwoofer (RM2,800) to really make it work. So total about RM14,300.

If you want a UST setup, you can get the Nexigo Aurora Pro with a 100" Fresnel screen for RM11,000, without shipping and tax. Their Black Friday promo is on now.
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you may consider Motorized Projection Screen
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QUOTE(minano0001 @ Oct 21 2024, 03:20 PM)
please specify a budget before you ask for suggestions
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post Oct 23 2024, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Oct 22 2024, 08:30 PM)
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There is a budget stated above right? Did you read?
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post Oct 23 2024, 02:55 PM

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Don't think it matters to OP since I don't think he's gonna go for the Nexigo. But there will be a 120" fresnel screen bundle available on Prime Day and Black Friday. Don't know the price but probably around USD3,200.

The current bundle is with 100" fresnel screen.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Oct 23 2024, 02:55 PM)
Don't think it matters to OP since I don't think he's gonna go for the Nexigo. But there will be a 120" fresnel screen bundle available on Prime Day and Black Friday. Don't know the price but probably around USD3,200.

The current bundle is with 100" fresnel screen.
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I have a big window in the living room.

Do you have any idea if bright room will affect the picture quality vs TV?
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You won't find a 75" TV for under 10k with decent image quality. You certainly won't find a 85" TV for under 10k either. If the size of a display is what you are looking for at under 10k, then your only choice are UST projectors - which you shouldn't expect a good gaming experience on since they usually have quite high input lag.

Since you have up to 10k budget for audio setup, forget soundbars entirely. Buy a decent receiver like a Denon x3800H and a pair of bookshelf speakers, add and build it into a multi-channel surround setup over time.
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QUOTE(RChance @ Oct 23 2024, 08:04 AM)
There is a budget stated above right? Did you read?
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post Oct 25 2024, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(RChance @ Oct 23 2024, 05:17 PM)
I have a big window in the living room.

Do you have any idea if bright room will affect the picture quality vs TV?
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If you can provide pictures of the living room layout, that would be great.

If there are window and you don't want to use curtains, even a TV screen can be affected; think of all the objects - including your body - that are bouncing the light from the window to everywhere else, including toward the TV screen.

Interior design can also affect your enjoyment. Ceiling lights can get reflected onto the TV screen. It's good to have a soft overall glow or bounced lights for the room instead of hard sources of light. Most TVs have matte finished screens but even they can show reflected lights.

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An example of windows and indirect lighting.


See how the TV is reflecting the bar/kitchen behind the camera? If you minimize the light in front of the TV, you can increase the enjoyment you get from your TV. The same is true for ambient light rejection screens for USTs.

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NAP in daylight. The room is in some shade but full glass wall over 4 meters.

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Night

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Night with some overhead lights near the screen.

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post Nov 25 2024, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 23 2024, 05:24 PM)
You won't find a 75" TV for under 10k with decent image quality. You certainly won't find a 85" TV for under 10k either. If the size of a display is what you are looking for at under 10k, then your only choice are UST projectors - which you shouldn't expect a good gaming experience on since they usually have quite high input lag.

Since you have up to 10k budget for audio setup, forget soundbars entirely. Buy a decent receiver like a Denon x3800H and a pair of bookshelf speakers, add and build it into a multi-channel surround setup over time.
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Im new to TV. I bought 65inch SAmsung TV about RM3.5k a few years ago. I assume it is a basic spec. Really forget the model as I am outside now.

Recently I renovated my house, and thinking of changing it to 85 inch. This time, I gonna go higher spec than my previous tv as well as bigger in size. I did survey and found a few, QLED, OLED, etc. Which one should I go for?

I am comparing a few models:

Samsung 85 QLED QA85Q70DA is going for RM10k (RRP14k+)
Sony XR X90L 85 for RM10.5k (RRP 15k++)

If you can give some inputs on these or at least guide me to go for ULED or QLED or OLED etc.
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Using a 65" Samsung The Frame paired with Sonos Arc Ultra + 2 x Era100 for rear speakers.

This is in my bedroom so didn't go for a larger TV.

Pros for the Samsung Frame:

1. matte screen, cuts reflections by alot even in daylight
2. has a One Connect box, so all the inputs goes into this box instead of directly into the TV. so I get to keep all my clutter in the AV cabinet
3. "Art Mode" abit gimmicky but nicer than a black screen when the TV is off. Also has sensor so it'll turn on/off depending on movement

The con for this TV is the price. But nowadays with 6.6/11.11 etc sales, still OK. Mine was RM5k (2023 version). Still almost 40% more than similar spec-ed TVs (but without Matte screen).

For the Sonos Arc Ultra and Era 100 pair, best to test in person if the sound profile suits you. I actually started with just 1 Era100 at home, liked it and bought another to have stereo sound. Then waited a whole year until the new Sonos Arc Ultra was released in Oct 24. Really suprised that it was also on sale by TC Acostic this 11.11 @ Rm4.2k (even the old Sonos Arc RRP is RM5.4k).

It's a far cry from a true theatre setup, but I'm happy with it especially since I use it for half an hour to an hour before bed biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(corad @ Nov 25 2024, 12:03 PM)
Using a 65" Samsung The Frame paired with Sonos Arc Ultra + 2 x Era100 for rear speakers.

This is in my bedroom so didn't go for a larger TV.

Pros for the Samsung Frame:

1. matte screen, cuts reflections by alot even in daylight
2. has a One Connect box, so all the inputs goes into this box instead of directly into the TV. so I get to keep all my clutter in the AV cabinet
3. "Art Mode" abit gimmicky but nicer than a black screen when the TV is off. Also has sensor so it'll turn on/off depending on movement

The con for this TV is the price. But nowadays with 6.6/11.11 etc sales, still OK. Mine was RM5k (2023 version). Still almost 40% more than similar spec-ed TVs (but without Matte screen).

For the Sonos Arc Ultra and Era 100 pair, best to test in person if the sound profile suits you. I actually started with just 1 Era100 at home, liked it and bought another to have stereo sound. Then waited a whole year until the new Sonos Arc Ultra was released in Oct 24. Really suprised that it was also on sale by TC Acostic this 11.11 @ Rm4.2k (even the old Sonos Arc RRP is RM5.4k).

It's a far cry from a true theatre setup, but I'm happy with it especially since I use it for half an hour to an hour before bed  biggrin.gif
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So good... I planned to put a 32inch monitor in my room also my wife said cannot...

I'm kinda surprised that you put the connect box in the cabinet but since you only ran them for an hour, probably ok to do so. I leave my parents QN65B connect box outside since I feel it ran pretty hot and my parents tv is always 24/7. My mom also can attach her karaoke system hdmi easily.
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For 85", which to pick? Similarly priced between Samsung QN85D or Sony X90L. Or did I miss out other good model.
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QUOTE(direct707 @ Nov 25 2024, 11:52 AM)
Im new to TV. I bought 65inch SAmsung TV about RM3.5k a few years ago. I assume it is a basic spec. Really forget the model as I am outside now.

Recently I renovated my house, and thinking of changing it to 85 inch. This time, I gonna go higher spec than my previous tv as well as bigger in size. I did survey and found a few, QLED, OLED, etc. Which one should I go for?

I am comparing a few models:

Samsung 85 QLED QA85Q70DA is going for RM10k (RRP14k+)
Sony XR X90L 85 for RM10.5k (RRP 15k++)

If you can give some inputs on these or at least guide me to go for ULED or QLED or OLED etc.
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You won't get an OLED or QD-OLED for RM10k+ at 83" screen size, that's impossible even if you go for second hand market.

Samsung Q70d
- Edge-lit LED LCD TV with no local dimming so don't expect inky blacks, despite using the "quantum dot" moniker its color gamut and volume is actually pretty low.
- Peak brightness capability is only ~500 nits, this is only half the minimum HDR10 standard of 1000 nits! HDR is basically useless on this TV in any room, dark or bright.
- Its upscaler is also pretty poor for 2024's standards.
- Very low input lag, great for gaming.
- Tizen OS actually is surprisingly pretty good these days.

Sony X90L
- Mini-LED lit LCD TV with local dimming, so it does achieve some pretty impressive (for a direct lit LED LCD anyway) contrast ratios. But blooming can be visible in a very dark room since there aren't a lot of LED zones.
- Peak brightness can hit 1100 nits, hitting the required standard of 1000 nits from HDR10. This TV is not a light cannon, but is bright enough for most people's rooms with some curtains.
- Good color volume coverage and gamut achieves >90% for DCI P3.
- Still the industry's best upscaler for low resolution content.
- So-so input lag figures for 2024 standards, but still good for gaming.
- Android (GoogleTV now) is becoming more and more trash with each update.

Between these 2, I'd suggest the Sony as it's a more well rounded TV than the Samsung.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 25 2024, 05:29 PM)
You won't get an OLED or QD-OLED for RM10k+ at 83" screen size, that's impossible even if you go for second hand market.

Samsung Q70d
- Edge-lit LED LCD TV with no local dimming so don't expect inky blacks, despite using the "quantum dot" moniker its color gamut and volume is actually pretty low.
- Its upscaler is also pretty poor for 2024's standards.
- Very low input lag, great for gaming.
- Tizen OS actually is surprisingly pretty good these days.

Sony X90L
- Mini-LED lit LCD TV with local dimming, so it does achieve some pretty impressive (for a direct lit LED LCD anyway) contrast ratios. But blooming can be visible in a very dark room since there aren't a lot of LED zones.
- Good color volume coverage and gamut achieves >90% for DCI P3.
- Still the industry's best upscaler for low resolution content.
- So-so input lag figures for 2024 standards, but still good for gaming.
- Android (GoogleTV now) is becoming more and more trash with each update.

Between these 2, I'd suggest the Sony as it's a more well rounded TV than the Samsung.
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the X90L is just a normal FALD without miniLEDs

X95L is the model with miniLEDs

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 25 2024, 05:45 PM)
the X90L is just a normal FALD without miniLEDs

X95L is the model with miniLEDs
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Ah yes you're right, forgot about the x95L. Thanks for the correction.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 25 2024, 05:29 PM)
You won't get an OLED or QD-OLED for RM10k+ at 83" screen size, that's impossible even if you go for second hand market.

Samsung Q70d
- Edge-lit LED LCD TV with no local dimming so don't expect inky blacks, despite using the "quantum dot" moniker its color gamut and volume is actually pretty low.
- Peak brightness capability is only ~500 nits, this is only half the minimum HDR10 standard of 1000 nits! HDR is basically useless on this TV in any room, dark or bright.
- Its upscaler is also pretty poor for 2024's standards.
- Very low input lag, great for gaming.
- Tizen OS actually is surprisingly pretty good these days.

Sony X90L
- Mini-LED lit LCD TV with local dimming, so it does achieve some pretty impressive (for a direct lit LED LCD anyway) contrast ratios. But blooming can be visible in a very dark room since there aren't a lot of LED zones.
- Peak brightness can hit 1100 nits, hitting the required standard of 1000 nits from HDR10. This TV is not a light cannon, but is bright enough for most people's rooms with some curtains.
- Good color volume coverage and gamut achieves >90% for DCI P3.
- Still the industry's best upscaler for low resolution content.
- So-so input lag figures for 2024 standards, but still good for gaming.
- Android (GoogleTV now) is becoming more and more trash with each update.

Between these 2, I'd suggest the Sony as it's a more well rounded TV than the Samsung.
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Thank you for the inputs. Whixh tv model should I go other than this 2?
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QUOTE(direct707 @ Nov 25 2024, 06:32 PM)
Thank you for the inputs. Whixh tv model should I go other than this 2?
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You want 85" at 10k+/-, there's not else better than the X90L at this price point.
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Hi,

I suggest attend a demo yourself for Sony and Samsung. Some differences between x90l and 85d:
- Sony dimming has superior shadow details but at the expense of blooming though this generation of Sony's blooming control is better than previous generation
- Samsung has less blooming but at the expense of shadow details
- Sony has better upscaling of lower quality video and motion compared to Samsung
- Samsung will appear higher contrast with better blacks
- Sony has more natural color while Samsung is more saturated and colorful
- Sony and Samsung has narrow viewing angle..so sitting far away from center position , color and image will appear washout

Some of above differences will be more prominent in a dark room but if you watch with lights on in a living room, actual perceived differences may be minimal.
Also as both manufacturers have different approaches in designing their TV, some of differences like color, blooming control, shadow details is up to your personal preferences.




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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 25 2024, 10:33 PM)
You want 85" at 10k+/-, there's not else better than the X90L at this price point.
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QUOTE(spyderman88 @ Nov 26 2024, 12:51 PM)
Hi,

I suggest attend a demo yourself for Sony and Samsung. Some differences between x90l and 85d:
- Sony dimming has superior shadow details but at the expense of blooming though this generation of Sony's blooming control is better than previous generation
- Samsung has less blooming but at the expense of shadow details
- Sony has better upscaling of lower quality video and motion compared to Samsung
- Samsung will appear higher contrast with better blacks
- Sony has more natural color while Samsung is more saturated and colorful
- Sony and Samsung has narrow viewing angle..so sitting far away from center position , color and image will appear washout

Some of above differences will be more prominent in a dark room but if you watch with lights on in a living room, actual perceived differences may be minimal.
Also as both manufacturers have different approaches in designing their TV, some of differences like color, blooming control, shadow details is up to your personal preferences.
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I visited Harvey Norman and been poisoned for 83 LG OLED C4 for RM24k. 77 at RM20k. 7 inch different not sure if it is noticable for 4k in price.

On top of that, they racun with JBL BAR 1300 which so impressive for me for RM6999. To pull the trigger or not to pull. 😰


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Hi,

LC C4 is quote good. It can satisfy most of the consumers. Its only limitation compared to mini LED TVs is lack of brightness and its white is not really pure intense white especially in HDR.
It has a very glossy finish screen. Some prefer matte finish.
The advantage of OLED contrast and black level only shines in a dark room or dim room with little light source.
If you watch in a bright living room, you won't fully utilize its potential. Can save some money go for mini LED TVs with bigger size. That is my opinion, as I own QLED, OLED and miniLED QLED TVs.
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QUOTE(direct707 @ Nov 25 2024, 06:32 PM)
Thank you for the inputs. Whixh tv model should I go other than this 2?
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Try looking at Samsung Neo QLED series (eg: QN85C, QN85D, QN90D etc). They use miniLED dimming so the contrast should be better than X90L
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If yr budget is similar to LG at 20k, the best 85 inch TV at that price is Sony Bravia 9. It has similar black and contrast as OLED.
Now Sony got offer

https://store.sony.com.my/products/k-85xr90...=42740386594850

It has one of the advanced mini LED with 2000 plus dimming zones and go up to 3000 nits
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Nov 25 2024, 12:24 PM)
So good... I planned to put a 32inch monitor in my room also my wife said cannot...

I'm kinda surprised that you put the connect box in the cabinet but since you only ran them for an hour, probably ok to do so. I leave my parents QN65B connect box outside since I feel it ran pretty hot and my parents tv is always 24/7. My mom also can attach her karaoke system hdmi easily.
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had to put mine "on wheels" before wife agreed tongue.gif

also another reason I keep the OneConnect and console in the cabinet since the whole thing (apart from the rear 2 Era100s) is supposed to be moved out "if needed" . I poked a few holes at the back and bottom of the cabinet so there is some airflow.

Also I'm aware the Sonos Arc Ultra protrudes slightly pass the TV but since I haven't found any media that uses 100% of the screen apart from still pictures (or Samsung likes to call it "Art") still living with it rather than search for new tv legs. But one thing I would change is getting the soundbar in black.

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Apple Vision Pro beat all option above.

in terms of Image Quality, Immersion, Function.
But over budget.

Screensize? up to 200 inch. if you want. In AR Mode.

and too bad Apple gonna cancel this project in future.
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Nov 26 2024, 08:20 PM)
Apple Vision Pro beat all option above.

in terms of Image Quality, Immersion, Function.
But over budget.

Screensize? up to 200 inch. if you want. In AR Mode.

and too bad Apple gonna cancel this project in future.
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Problem with Apple Vision is only for 1 person...If you need to watch with your families and friends which is quite common at home..you need a few pairs of Apple Vision which ends up costing a bomb


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QUOTE(spyderman88 @ Nov 26 2024, 08:48 PM)
Problem with Apple Vision is only for 1 person...If you need to watch with your families and friends which is quite common at home..you need a few pairs of Apple Vision which ends up costing a bomb
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