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TSBboyDora
post Oct 16 2024, 10:45 AM, updated 3w ago

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Hi all,

im currently using my smart phone (Zoom online) to conduct the online class (using the whiteboard). the quality is so bad . to give you an idea, this is how its look like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZf5XbADmAg&t=470s

(this guy recommend osbot)

can anyone share which camera is the best? and my budget is not high either

I found canon eos m50 mark ii , but pricey for beginner like me.

thank you!!

This post has been edited by BboyDora: Oct 16 2024, 10:46 AM
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post Oct 16 2024, 10:52 AM

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Sorry, You dont Understand How Live-streaming work at all.

1. Even a Lapsap phone capable to capture 1080p 30fps today. Which, for live streaming, already considered top end.

2. Obviously you didnt setup properly the entire streaming process. I give you example :

3. For Max Quality, you will need buffer time. up to even 60 seconds. ( audience are not sync with you, with 60 delay )

4. This is to ensure they have smooth viewing experience, while your setup has 60 second buffer if there is a drop in connection quality, your setup able to catch up.

TLDR.

1. Which Live streaming service u use? Did you expect all streaming service allow you to send High Def Video?

2. I dont know your requirement. If want do it free with 1080p quality. Youtube is the only way, there are many alternative, which is not suitable for newbie.

3. Download OBS Studio if you streaming from PC.
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post Oct 17 2024, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Oct 16 2024, 10:45 AM)
Hi all,

im currently using my smart phone (Zoom online)  to conduct the online class (using the whiteboard). the quality is so bad . to give you an idea, this is how its look like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZf5XbADmAg&t=470s

(this guy recommend osbot)

can anyone share which camera is the best? and my budget is not high either

I found canon eos m50 mark ii , but pricey for beginner like me.

thank you!!
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The osbot this guy recommended seems good, I like the follow focus function. EOS M50 mark ii is an overkilled in my opinion for online classes. I've tried to do Zoom online connected with my Fuji XT2, even that was overkilled. If your internet connection is not fast enough, zoom will automatically reduce your video resolution. High resolution video quality could also be a burden for your students' network if they don't have high speed internet also.
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post Oct 18 2024, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Oct 16 2024, 10:52 AM)
Sorry, You dont Understand How Live-streaming work at all.

1. Even a Lapsap phone capable to capture 1080p 30fps today. Which, for live streaming, already considered top end.

2. Obviously you didnt setup properly the entire streaming process. I give you example :

3. For Max Quality, you will need buffer time. up to even 60 seconds. ( audience are not sync with you, with 60 delay )

4. This is to ensure they have smooth viewing experience, while your setup has 60 second buffer if there is a drop in connection quality, your setup able to catch up.

TLDR.

1. Which Live streaming service u use? Did you expect all streaming service allow you to send High Def Video?

2. I dont know your requirement. If want do it free with 1080p quality. Youtube is the only way, there are many alternative, which is not suitable for newbie.

3. Download OBS Studio if you streaming from PC.
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post Oct 18 2024, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Loseeker @ Oct 17 2024, 12:13 PM)
The osbot this guy recommended seems good, I like the follow focus function. EOS M50 mark ii is an overkilled in my opinion for online classes. I've tried to do Zoom online connected with my Fuji XT2, even that was overkilled. If your internet connection is not fast enough, zoom will automatically reduce your video resolution. High resolution video quality could also be a burden for your students' network if they don't have high speed internet also.
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aaahh........... i see...

that's why sometimes few students told me that they laggy.even the audio also lag. doh.gif doh.gif darn malaysia internet lines

some no issues.

thanks bro
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post Oct 18 2024, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Oct 18 2024, 01:46 PM)
Zoom
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zoom free or paid??

Very different
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post Oct 19 2024, 08:24 PM

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If your laptop is anything within 3-5 years old, it should already be able to stream at 1080p which most laptops these days can with decent quality for things like zoom or online classes. As the others have said, no point getting a top end camera when the line/receiving end isn't going to appreciate it anyway or doesn't have that capacity to receive it.

If you'd still like to improve on how you look in the videos, adding cheap video led lights to light up your face and your backgrounds might actually be a cheaper and more effective way of improving how you look in the feed. This is not purely on the output but just making the profile look more pleasant

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post Oct 20 2024, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Oct 18 2024, 06:04 PM)
zoom free or paid??

Very different
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paid.

got HD function. but I use watched my own live teaching by using 2 devices.. meh the quality

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QUOTE(Dark_Angel85 @ Oct 19 2024, 08:24 PM)
If your laptop is anything within 3-5 years old, it should already be able to stream at 1080p which most laptops these days can with decent quality for things like zoom or online classes. As the others have said, no point getting a top end camera when the line/receiving end isn't going to appreciate it anyway or doesn't have that capacity to receive it.

If you'd still like to improve on how you look in the videos, adding cheap video led lights to light up your face and your backgrounds might actually be a cheaper and more effective way of improving how you look in the feed. This is not purely on the output but just making the profile look more pleasant
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thank you for your input. Yes, I tried. end up got glare and reflection from the whiteboard behind me cry.gif cry.gif
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post Oct 22 2024, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Oct 20 2024, 11:10 PM)
thank you for your input. Yes, I tried. end up got glare and reflection from the whiteboard behind me  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Oh, since you already have the lighting equipment, then you're already halfway there. Can try to feather the light source so that it doesn't spill so much to the background. This creates a slightly deeper shadow on your features but some people like that. If not, move the source closer when feathering
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post Oct 24 2024, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(Dark_Angel85 @ Oct 22 2024, 09:15 AM)
Oh, since you already have the lighting equipment, then you're already halfway there. Can try to feather the light source so that it doesn't spill so much to the background. This creates a slightly deeper shadow on your features but some people like that. If not, move the source closer when feathering
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may I know what is feathering?

due to the white board, im having headache live teaching.

recording youtube video no issue.
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post Oct 24 2024, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Oct 16 2024, 10:45 AM)
Hi all,

im currently using my smart phone (Zoom online)  to conduct the online class (using the whiteboard). the quality is so bad . to give you an idea, this is how its look like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZf5XbADmAg&t=470s

(this guy recommend osbot)

can anyone share which camera is the best? and my budget is not high either

I found canon eos m50 mark ii , but pricey for beginner like me.

thank you!!
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What smart phone do u use? Are u using the front camera? If yes, then definitely bad lo.

My partner is conducting classes with an HP laptop last year. This year she switched to Macbook and never been happier with the image quality. The dynamic range is better, no settings were tweaked. Just login as usual the its a lot better.
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post Oct 28 2024, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Oct 24 2024, 07:05 PM)
What smart phone do u use? Are u using the front camera? If yes, then definitely bad lo.

My partner is conducting classes with an HP laptop last year. This year she switched to Macbook and never been happier with the image quality. The dynamic range is better, no settings were tweaked. Just login as usual the its a lot better.
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yes. front camera. because got auto beautify. so im look more handsome biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

but the quality is bad

Macbook of course. I even tried iphone the the quality much better
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post Oct 28 2024, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Oct 28 2024, 10:27 AM)
yes. front camera. because got auto beautify. so im look more handsome  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

but the quality is bad

Macbook of course. I even tried iphone the the quality much better
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Then I would suggest you to save up more and get a macbook air M2. The price is around 4k.

Worth every penny for an online tutor for you. Affordable and a good workhorse.
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post Oct 28 2024, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Oct 24 2024, 09:00 AM)
may I know what is feathering?

due to the white board, im having headache live teaching.

recording youtube video no issue.
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was gonna explain it but better let the experts explain it:

https://www.slrlounge.com/light-feathering-...-how-to-use-it/

 

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