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TSSkylinestar
post Oct 1 2024, 07:53 AM, updated 2y ago

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" When ac orientation is wrong, there is more electrical leakage riding on the component chassis.
When ac orientation is corrected, chassis leakage is reduced.
This difference can be measured, with an electronic voltmeter.
The orientation with the lesser chassis leakage is the correct one. This is always the case."


" I also experience the diff in the amount fo leakage when the 2-pin plug was insert in diff orientation".

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I normally just cucuk. never bother with polarity because it is AC. how about you?

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vapanel
post Oct 1 2024, 07:54 AM

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Sound stupid since ac oscillating
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post Oct 1 2024, 08:06 AM

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interesting
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post Oct 1 2024, 08:07 AM

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That tered full of people with IQ200 people
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post Oct 1 2024, 08:08 AM

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Meh. AC is bi-directional current.


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post Oct 1 2024, 08:11 AM

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UK type won't go wrong 👍
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post Oct 1 2024, 08:22 AM

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ac has no polarity
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post Oct 1 2024, 08:26 AM

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Ini ac ke dc?
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post Oct 1 2024, 08:32 AM

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This is what happens when stupid people are allowed on the Internet.
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post Oct 1 2024, 08:39 AM

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2 pin got orientation? What leakage????
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post Oct 1 2024, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 1 2024, 08:11 AM)
UK type won't go wrong 👍
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This

The "leakage" easily remedies with proper grounding
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post Oct 1 2024, 08:43 AM

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Hahaha, i laugh. Don't challenge people general knowledge la, please
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post Oct 1 2024, 08:52 AM

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post Oct 1 2024, 09:03 AM

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don't use electricity is best

/k trolls aside, the post is correct just the context is incomplete, click the link

user is converting 3 pin to 2 pin without the grounds, some things are only 'live' switched, so on a 2 pin if reversed, it will become 'neutral' switched so the live goes all over the electrical thing and can leak around but not enough to trigger a ground trip
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post Oct 1 2024, 09:11 AM

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Those who says there’s no orientation for AC is wrong.
L is live
N is neutral

They can’t be used interchangeably.
It may work when you swap L and N but it’s not without some consequences.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/4..._when_charging/

My surface book also will get shocked on body while charging if L and N connected wrongly.

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post Oct 1 2024, 09:17 AM

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You go to Audiophile website to learn electricity?

Bro.... 99% "audio" based advice is SUBJECTIVE in nature.

Please stay out of those forums if you're not a science guy, else one day you'll kena some snakeoil advice and lose money... ...
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post Oct 1 2024, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(LaiN87 @ Oct 1 2024, 09:11 AM)
Those who says there’s no orientation for AC is wrong.
L is live
N is neutral

They can’t be used interchangeably.
It may work when you swap L and N but it’s not without some consequences.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/4..._when_charging/

My surface book also will get shocked on body while charging if L and N connected wrongly.
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I will go so far as to say the SHOULD NOT be any difference (in the transformer days),

but in reality it does (use of solid-state electronics) (due to component choice, design and cost factor).

Lets just leave it at that =D
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post Oct 1 2024, 09:37 AM

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Many people may get confused when even the AC plug has polarity.

Two pin plug as shown by you has no polarity but some AC plug especially the blade type has polarity indeed.

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By polarity, it is not talking about Voltage/current polarity but just connection polarity. As you know AC voltage has no polarity. The switch suppose cut off power on L side, not the N side. So, the plug with polarity will ensure that the L goes to the switch. If switch cut the N side, it means the opened L side which still has AC current in it still go through device/appliance before being cut off at the switch on the N side. Therefore the AC current still exist in the device/appliance.

The description above is not really related to your case though laugh.gif You can hear or read advise somewhere that if your appliance has some sort of electricity shock to the body, you just need to rotate plug and the tingling shock would be gone or at least reduce. This happened to appliance with power supply transformer inside to reduce operating voltage.

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Some appliance has chassis connected to the N of transformer secondary. By this I meant the top side of transformer is L and the bottom side is N. If you change the polarity of the AC plug,m the secondary voltage on transformer will be out of phase to the AC on primary. Thus this will increase the tingling sensation compares to when the AC between the primary and secondary is in phase. However, in both case, it is still safe because the "touch current" should be in compliance with UL or IEC standard which is not more than 3mA current limit.
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post Oct 1 2024, 09:46 AM

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ya, quite hard to tell which one is the electric inflow and outflow. nice knowledge.
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post Oct 1 2024, 09:50 AM

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Cucuk je la, Klu letop ada bunyi ma.
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post Oct 1 2024, 09:56 AM

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post Oct 1 2024, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 1 2024, 09:03 AM)
don't use electricity is best

/k trolls aside, the post is correct just the context is incomplete, click the link

user is converting 3 pin to 2 pin without the grounds, some things are only 'live' switched, so on a 2 pin if reversed, it will become 'neutral' switched so the live goes all over the electrical thing and can leak around but not enough to trigger a ground trip
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is there any small tool (like a plug) than I can use to check?

use this?
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This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Oct 1 2024, 10:48 AM
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post Oct 1 2024, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Oct 1 2024, 10:46 AM)
is there any small tool (like a plug) than I can use to check?

use this?
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i suppose so, haven't search how to test ground trip maybe there are other ways
serious replies aside, why you post this at /k sure kena hentam de
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post Oct 1 2024, 01:22 PM

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post Oct 1 2024, 01:25 PM

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Sama macam USB type C. If ikut proper orientation will charge faster.
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post Oct 1 2024, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Oct 1 2024, 09:37 AM)
Many people may get confused when even the AC plug has polarity.

Two pin plug as shown by you has no polarity but some AC plug especially the blade type has polarity indeed.

Attached Image

By polarity, it is not talking about Voltage/current polarity but just connection polarity. As you know AC voltage has no polarity. The switch suppose cut off power on L side, not the N side. So, the plug with polarity will ensure that the L goes to the switch. If switch cut the N side, it means the opened L side which still has AC current in it still go through device/appliance before being cut off at the switch on the N side. Therefore the AC current still exist in the device/appliance.

The description above is not really related to your case though  laugh.gif You can hear or read advise somewhere that if your appliance has some sort of electricity shock to the body, you just need to rotate plug and the tingling shock would be gone or at least reduce. This happened to appliance with power supply transformer inside to reduce operating voltage.

Attached Image

Some appliance has chassis connected to the N of transformer secondary. By this I meant the top side of transformer is L and the bottom side is N. If you change the polarity of the AC plug,m the secondary voltage on transformer will be out of phase to the AC on primary. Thus this will increase the tingling sensation compares to when the AC between the primary and secondary is in phase. However, in both case, it is still safe because the "touch current" should be in compliance with UL or IEC standard which is not more than 3mA current limit.
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Scary also if live always connected

This post has been edited by vapanel: Oct 1 2024, 01:26 PM
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post Oct 1 2024, 03:28 PM

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