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 car now vs car 10-15 years ago, different segment

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constant_weight
post Sep 26 2024, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 25 2024, 09:12 AM)
If it a Toyota Shah Alam, not much change for performance wise cz engine is carryover again & again
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Volvo Drive-E or VEA debut 2013 (R&D started 2008).
VW EA888 debut 2009 - gone through 4 major refresh, for performance + emission
Even BMW B58 debut 2015 almost 10 years. In between, the direct injection is upgraded from 200 to 350bar

For the Volvo that I familiar, a lot of old tech give signs that it is an old platform
- 250bar direct injection pressure was state of the art. Now 350bar is common.
- Still old tech aluminium block + cast iron liner. Now almost everyone use vapor deposit of silica/some propeitary alloy to replace liner.
- DLC coating on some of the high wear components, now also very common.
- Brake by wire take years of tuning from terrible to natural. Pre-2020 brake was so f....up, driven the loaner car during service (opps, don't send me for community service like Max Verstappen, lol)
- Same as EA888, burn engine oil during early version. The piston ring takes many many many many revisions to get it right.

Now that I learning more, come to think about it, Toyota is not the only one. New engine take years of R&D
Old engine block as long as continuous update is ok.

Maybe Toyota after update for new emission requirement, drop 2hp... lol...
constant_weight
post Sep 26 2024, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 26 2024, 06:00 AM)
What they done now is removing the tyre spare, remove tyre, by that reduce weight which can improve power/weight ratio, better FC.

For others example EA888, they has an upgrade each time, example from EA888 gen1 to gen 4 now, with better performance, eliminate problem faced from previous version example change to a better quality materials, and last improve emissions/FC.

But Toyota meanwhile just carryover old engine, best they can do is add in CVT gb cz cheaper price parts relatively to normal auto and better weight. Thats about it
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I think Toyota did similar things. Same block but different intake manifold, different coating on cam shaft to reduce friction etc.
Still minor improvement over the time, few % on fuel economy.

Just not major upgrade like others with that meet emission + performance upgrade to align with competitors.

Pretty much almost everyone are removing spare tyres

This post has been edited by constant_weight: Sep 26 2024, 11:56 AM

 

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