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 Confusing Male Behaviour, [Decoded and Solved on 25/9/24]

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TSRalna
post Sep 17 2024, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Sep 17 2024, 09:54 AM)
TS, my very twisted opinion is he did not want to spend time to court you to into bed. Since you have demanded that you need movies, dinners, spend quality time before u will give in to intimacy. He must be thinking this takes too much time.
Better go for tinder chicks who bow to money immediately.

Also i have kool setori about men coming out of the woodwork suddenly and confessing. Might post at /k soon. Since got triggered by you.
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If that's the case, then I think I'm too 'expensive' for him. He's better off with cheap women whom he can easily get on Tinder, who can offer free sex without any pre-requisites.

Haha sure, do post. Would love to read. smile.gif
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post Sep 18 2024, 06:11 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Sep 17 2024, 01:27 PM)
The alpha/beta nomenclature needs to stop la

At the end of the day, its all about compatibility with your life goals. Neither should try to seek to control each other, but to work out a good dynamic that allows for proper decision making.

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Now that's not to say you can't have your cake and eat it too. Just be wary of how you define/identify with terms/labels/value. It affects your overall perception of the world and yourself.
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Nomenclature is necessary for quick classification of human mindset and behaviour. However, we should also acknowledge that human mindset and behaviour can be fluid and evolve or regress based on triggers, reactions and other factors.

As for myself, I am a mix of playfulness vs seriousness, dominance vs submission, freedom vs commitment, and other contrasting traits -- depends on how I balance my masculine and feminine energy to make the best blend; too much or too little of each trait isn't good.

Just like mixing liquor + syrup + citrus to make the perfect cocktail... it will taste heavenly when you hit the right ratio. brows.gif

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However, sometimes being out of balance is good but temporarily-- just like how I love to be playful now instead of being serious after getting out of a long-term relationship. If I am being serious right now, I will feel unhappy and sad that the relationship didn't work out... so, I need more fun and freedom in my life right now to keep myself feeling good instead of miserable.

When life gives you too much lemons until it's overly bitter and sour, add more sugar to make some tasty lemonade. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 18 2024, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(Life_House @ Sep 17 2024, 07:49 PM)
I believe TS is the queen type of lady who deserve a lasting relationship such as that of Michelle Yeoh with  Jean Todt.

TS could be patient. The One who match TS vibes and soul, should be able to respect, love, nurture with a whole heart yet equally or stronger than TS , and most importantly, would be consistently extraordinary Steady towards TS.
Steady is very important.
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Thanks for your lovely compliment. blush.gif You understand me well between the lines.

The new guy... he messaged me again yesterday after a week of no contact. I guess, after having some space and time apart, he has calmed down and thought of our relationship further. He seems more stable (not anxious anymore), and ready to allow his/our feelings to flow naturally...

Will see how things go...
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post Sep 20 2024, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Sep 20 2024, 12:20 AM)
God has sent me to this thread. How do we get to know each other? 😝
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LOL. What a smooth pick-up line. Something new to me. hahaha

Well, message me and see if God will matchmake you further. wink.gif
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post Sep 20 2024, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Sep 18 2024, 06:59 AM)
The new guy... he messaged me again yesterday after a week of no contact. I guess, after having some space and time apart, he has calmed down and thought of our relationship further. He seems more stable (not anxious anymore), and ready to allow his/our feelings to flow naturally...

Will see how things go...
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Update:

He pissed me off when he requested to DIY together instead of meeting me in person. We're just 30-45 mins away from each other, and yet he popomama didn't wanna come and see me. Want cybersxx pulak. vmad.gif

In total, 5 times he initiated, 5 times he FFK (cancelled meeting me).

I finally exploded, and texted + voice messaged him how I felt: disappointed, sad, unloved and confused. I said he seemed so close yet so distant, and sometimes I wondered if he was just teasing me and playing with my feelings. I told him straight that I liked him, but I was also confused. I asked him directly how he felt towards me, and said that I needed time and space apart, and would only talk to him when I felt better again.

He read my messages and heard my voice message instantly (could see he's kamchiong brows.gif ), but he didn't reply.

Good. I want him to go reflect and sort out his emotions fully. Damn annoyed. Never met such a mangkuk guy before. Urgh!!!!!

... but at the same time, I still feel he's so cute. He likes me a lot but is so scared to proceed, like an inexperienced boy boy. OK la, to be fair, I suspect he's a fearful avoidant-- crave love yet avoid love. No wonder still single for yearssssss and never have a gf before.

Anyway, enough of hotness, time for some cold treatment. According to my relationship book, I should implement no contact for at least 30 days, and I'm gonna do it. devil.gif Sometimes, people dunno what they have until it's gone. Cliché, but true.

Meanwhile, I keep myself happy by chatting with new guys... brows.gif If tak jadi with this mangkuk guy, I will move on, again. Have to la; ain't gonna wait forever for mangkuk to 开窍 (be enlightened).

This is the oddest thing to happen after my breakup with ex. Mangkuk guy kinda resembles my ex: same height, same studies, similar profession, tall and well-built, high IQ but low EQ/SQ --- God! Why are you sending another guy to 'torture' me??! & Why am I attracting/attracted to the same kind of guy?!

Haih. Susah. rclxub.gif That's why ranting here late at night. Pardon me. sweat.gif

This post has been edited by Ralna: Sep 20 2024, 03:23 AM
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post Sep 20 2024, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Sep 20 2024, 10:06 AM)
Maybe he is just not that into you?

Just entertain u for fun.
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He's the one who pursued first, kept messaging me the whole day (asked me if I missed him, what I was doing, etc), and asking me out... I didn't do all these; I just responded and flirted with him.

I'm more to feeling emotionally tortured by his indecisiveness, but I think he's more physically tortured by getting hard...soft...hard...soft...hard...soft... but can't proceed due to his own hesitation... and keep thinking of me whole day coz I post on FB daily... my pretty pics and vibrant life.

Yeah, now I think about it. He lagi susah hor. brows.gif

Hope my absence will drive him crazy. laugh.gif
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post Sep 20 2024, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(lfw @ Sep 20 2024, 10:58 AM)
I was intrigue to read your public diary and decided to leave a comment here

from the way you describe Mr Bowl, it seemed like he might be those that overprotecting himself (in terms of relationship) so that he wouldn't get hurt, eventually will lead to nowhere. if he needs guidance, perhaps he can pick up some self help book and find answers

I guess you shouldn't be putting too much hope on him then but let's see how it goes nod.gif
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Yeah, he does behave like someone who has some psychological issues to overcome. I'm gonna post those articles on FB, and hope he'll read them and go help himself.

Just for everyone's knowledge:

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What is a push-pull relationship?
A push-pull relationship is a dynamic characterized by alternating patterns of drawing a partner close (pulling) and then pushing them away (pushing). People may engage in push-pull dynamics for various reasons, including:
- a fear of intimacy
- unresolved attachment issues
- a desire for control

In a push-pull relationship, one partner may oscillate, move back and forth between two points, between moments of pulling, like:
- intense closeness
- affection
- attention

Followed by periods of pushing, such as:
- distancing
- aloofness
- hostility

Examples of push-pull relationships

Romantic relationship:
Push: Andrew may become distant or aloof when feeling overwhelmed or afraid of intimacy.
Pull: Andrew may then seek reassurance and closeness from his partner Jessica when he feels her moving on with her life.

Friendship:
Push: Alex may cancel plans or distance herself from Emily when feeling insecure or uncertain about the friendship.
Pull: Alex may then seek validation from Emily by initiating contact or expressing vulnerability when she’s feeling lonely or notices that Emily has gotten a new friend.

Takeaway
A push-pull relationship involves alternating between drawing a partner close and then pushing them away, leading to emotional turbulence. This type of relationship dynamic often stems from unresolved emotional issues, fear of intimacy, or poor communication skills.

If you suspect you’re in a push-pull relationship, communicate openly with your partner about your feelings, set boundaries to protect your emotional well-being, and consider seeking support from a therapist.

Read more: https://psychcentral.com/relationships/ways...ur-relationship

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post Sep 20 2024, 12:49 PM

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I have rethought the whole situation. Putting my personal emotions aside, I do think this guy needs some help to overcome his inner struggles. Even if we're not dating each other eventually, I still hope he will be able to date girls like how a normal man will.

I'm gonna write some posts and record some videos of myself, and post on my FB to help reframe and change his mental narrative--- not targeting at him, but telling ALL my friends why I still believe in love despite breakups and emo pain, and why I don't run away or reject love, and how I heal myself by reaffirming positive beliefs and values about love and romance.

I think by sharing my positive beliefs, values and some introspective questions, it will make him re-think and re-evaluate himself. Will also benefit my other friends/audience too who has broken up or divorced before.

I know he stalks me, and he'll read/watch those posts/videos. He's damn lucky that he came across someone like me, who has studied NLP (neuro-linguistic programming) until master practitioner + good at coaching. I'll crack his coconut head to see things in different light.

Ya, I'm turning frustration into motivation to help more poor souls. I memang already posting my singing videos on FB (got a sweet voice yo brows.gif) , now it's time to add some inspiring content about relationships. laugh.gif

I'm done with ranting; it's time to act. Confidence + vulnerability is sexy. cool2.gif
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post Sep 20 2024, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Sep 20 2024, 01:17 PM)
To make sister Raina a little happier... laugh.gif

FT Opinion | Data Points

Young women are starting to leave men behind
Men’s education deficit is increasingly becoming an employment, earnings and outcomes gap, with significant repercussions

by John Burn-Murdoch

https://archive.ph/fNpSR
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Link not valid leh.

Share again

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post Sep 20 2024, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Sep 20 2024, 01:35 PM)
Hmmm.. maybe there's another perspective you should consider.

He might be addicted to porn, hence why he prefer cybersex vs doing something in real. This is not uncommon in men nowadays.

Maybe you just have a type laugh.gif

Speaking as a man... he might totally miss or misinterpret the hidden message in your videos laugh.gif
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Yeah, he probably got used to porn + DIY. Really missing out all the fun in a real relationship. shakehead.gif

Haih yalor. & know what, after 2 months+ of MIA, my ex texted me again today. Shyt. Why am I having guy probs right now? LOL.

Will ask ChatGPT to help craft the right message. brows.gif


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post Sep 21 2024, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 20 2024, 08:32 PM)
Always enjoyed your post, and you seemed like an ideal women to date. The vibe you give off is like feminine, sexy, fun yet intellectual and rational, an almost complete package. You are like a bro in a women body.

But to be fair, if i were to try and court you and somehow succeeded, i would probably get anxious and back off as well.

This reactions is probably due to insecurity and fear of losing control of the situation. Maybe he is the type that pride himself in the ability to keep emotions in check and usually in control of situation.

Catching feelings really does make you vulnerable. So the best is stop it before it happen, which is to never meet in person. But then for someone like that to do sexting is pretty out of character, but it does add spices to the story which is quite enjoyable.
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hmm... I'm so flattered by your compliment. Thank you. blush.gif

I'm not that scary la~ already had some... sweet moments with some guys here. Fast action-takers brows.gif
Nothing sexual, but still romantic. wub.gif They weren't disappointed. wink.gif

Haih that si mangkuk... really missing all the good stuff... shakehead.gif

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post Sep 21 2024, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 21 2024, 01:37 PM)
Things that are worthwhile are usually never easy and smooth.

I guess that is his way of going into relationship.

Think in a positive light is that if its easy for him to let his guard down with you, in future he would probably be having relationships left right centres based on his qualifications. So a little personality dysfunction would probably make this more challenging and worthwhile when you actually managed to get him to open up with you.
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Thanks for saying those comforting words. They do help me to think more positively of him.

Seems like a lot is going on in his mind/heart. Just gotta be patient with him. thumbsup.gif
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post Sep 21 2024, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 21 2024, 06:12 PM)
Why do you do want him? He don't want to commit, don't bother. If he doesn't like you or don't reciprocal your feelings don't bother. Cut and find new guy. So simple.
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Haih. I may not even need to find new guys... ex-fiancé re-appeared after >2 months of no contact / 6 months never met physically... long story, but it's kinda like we gravely misunderstood each other. He still loved me a lot.

After 8 years of LDR (yes, it was THAT long--- I was so damn tired of waiting until I gave up already esp. after he MIA), he is finally moving back to Selangor for good...

and he said he's been spending the past few months renovating the family home. He thought I would wait for him but it turned out I had decided to move on, and this broke his heart...

I told him I had met guys but we didn't do anything sexual. Just had coffee and dinner. Nothing serious. I wasn't in love with anyone coz I was still hurting inside.

Plot twist kaw-kaw. Headache right now. Such a fcked up situation. bangwall.gif

Oh God! Why... ??! rclxub.gif

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post Sep 21 2024, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Omgf @ Sep 21 2024, 10:51 PM)
Wow, month of peach blossoms for jehjeh.
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Drinking cold beer to chillax myself now.

Haih. Will just take things as they come.
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post Sep 22 2024, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Sep 22 2024, 12:01 PM)
Bunch of opportunists laugh.gif

Was mystery one of them? brows.gif

He didnt mention any of this when you guys broke up? sounds super sus
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You seem to know something... brows.gif

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Didn't officially breakup; just drifted apart due to some misunderstanding/communication breakdown.

In short, the downslide began in March 2024, when he said something extremely hurtful and insulting to me that totally broke my heart into pieces. So, when he stopped seeing me and stopped talking to me in the following months, I seriously thought the relationship was over. I took the time to cry, heal, and then I decided to move on.

Then, he appeared again two days ago, and got a shock why I moved on. He said I was selfish to leave him and start seeing guys without telling him, and the whole thing "eats into his soul". He's currently having a meltdown.

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How I'm feeling right now: confused, troubled, numb... and some sadness and tiredness.

I don't think I did anything wrong, and I don't feel that I betrayed him. I don't like it when he pointed his fingers at me and blamed me for the outcome like I was some kind of unfaithful woman who mistreated him and didn't appreciate his sacrifices in our relationship.

I shot him back by stating on which dates I messaged/emailed him in the past few months to care for him and show my affection, requested him to see me/call me, but my words seemed to fall on deaf ears.

It takes two to tango. To me, he should be held accountable for his words and actions for causing our relationship to break down this way.

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I guess, sometimes men do take women for granted, especially in a long-term relationship or marriage. Men often assume that women will always be theirs or wait for them forever, but women don't think like that. When we have enough pain, we usually decide to leave, and often, we leave quietly when our heart dies.

I know I will always love my ex-- he has a special place in my heart after 8 years together.

However, unless he is a changed man, I don't see why I should return to him. I'm not young anymore. I dated him from age 27 to 35, and... I am scared that it would be a wrong decision if I resume the relationship.

I'm still seeing other men, and they make me happy. I like the warm, sunny feeling together. I enjoy the laughter and some romance.

With my ex, the vibes I feel around him and with him just feels so heavy. It feels like it's forever dark and cloudy with thunderstorm at times. I love him, but I don't want to be in such a relationship anymore.
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post Sep 22 2024, 11:45 PM

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After some casual dates, I got a new idea on how to make si mangkuk open up to physical intimacy...

so, I voice messaged him yesterday (Sat, 3 am+) and said let's keep things light and easy, start with holding hands first... because physical touch is highly therapeutic for me; helps heal my feminine energy and makes me feel so relaxed (it's my love language, actually).

I told him since I just got out of a long-term relationship, I wasn't looking for any commitment right now. I was still wounded and not ready for anything serious nor sexual at this point... and told him not to give himself too much pressure; just chill and relax together... and said I would be so happy with his companionship, and I knew he would too, with me.

He woke up in the morning, read and listened to my message... and then he disappeared again for two days now, totally off social media.

I think he will seriously consider, because it's what he wanted too in the first place; just that he was too anxious to execute until FFK 5 times sweat.gif (he was too focused on his sexual thoughts and 'performance'). I'm giving him the assurance now... to start with something simple first.

If he still doesn't even want to do these with me, then I guess it's a gone case... will update again if he contacts me.

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Si mangkuk is tall, handsome, accomplished, and well-built; I'd really love to be touched by a man like him. He pursued me and offered me non-sexual physical intimacy first, but he was equally shy... haih, hope he'll be proactive again soon... blush.gif

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post Sep 23 2024, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Sep 23 2024, 12:45 AM)
Btw, what were you thinking la being a physical touch person but being in LDR for 8 years.
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My relationship with ex is far more complicated than I'm telling here. He was my first love and first man, and he saved my life. For years, he built me up from the broken pieces I was. I was his project, his masterpiece, his creation. This is why I am faithful to him, wait for him, and will always love him. How can I not love my... human saviour and creator?

However, like any relationships, we had our turbulent downs due to differences and stressors in life, and LDR made it even more challenging for us to cope as a couple.

Why we could last for so long in LDR... well, he's based in Singapore, while I'm in Selangor; we aren't that far apart. Whenever he came to see me, he 'fed' me well emotionally and physically-- made me super happy in and out of bed. The exception was during Covid-- 3 years of lockdown/travel restriction was truly depressing for me.

This year, he said hurtful words and disappeared physically for 6 months. It was really a long time... I felt so sad, unwanted, and touch-starved until I decided to leave him starting 1 Sept 2024...

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& si mangkuk was the first to message me on 3 Sept 2024... I suspect he's been observing my newsfeed and analysing my behavioural pattern... like, why the timing was so cun? hmm.gif stalker analyst kah ni

How he confessed... was kinda raw. It's a 7-sentence process.

He said:
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He's that simple and direct. Just 2-3 words per sentence. So raw until I found him so cute.

& I responded positively to him. I guess it probably blew up his mind and uhh over-stimulated him and his lil head. Brain fused with behavioral abnormality. brows.gif

If a player's brain is 32GB RAM, I think his is just 1GB RAM when it comes to relationship. Experienced dudes won't confess in such a crude manner and could take the 'spicy-ness'... and would quickly pounce on me. laugh.gif

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So ya, ex is having meltdown, while si mangkuk is in push-pull mode.

The best decision for me right now... is to give these two men enough time to process their thoughts and feelings... and observe their actions... what they will do for me, for us. If they don't do anything, then I don't have to choose them. Time will tell.
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post Sep 23 2024, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Sep 23 2024, 08:14 AM)
Your parent objected on your relationship with your ex initially. What was the reason given by your parent then?

On your first break-up, was it fully due to the lock-down period of 3 years or was there other elements like some small-small unresolved issues accumulated over years but were sweep under the carpet ?

Post 1st break up, you reconciled & was already planning to get married. The 2nd unofficial break-up, what actually happened until the marriage can be called off? Did your ex went into some sort of employment / business / financial difficulty post the covid-19 ?
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It's an age-gap relationship. He's middle-aged.

First break-up was due to some misunderstanding that triggered his jealousy. I was young and had many admirers back then; wasn't sure if I wanted to be with him, so I didn't cut clean.

We had planned to get married in 2020, but the pandemic struck and we were in forced LDR for 3 years. He was retrenched several times and had health issues thereafter, and sank into midlife crisis/depression. Still unemployed; so, involuntarily retired.

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He video-called this morning. We cleared the air bit; turned out to be he thought I withdrew because I was in depression due to work issues, while I thought he withdrew because he didn't want me anymore after saying those hurtful words. Both of us are introverts and tend to shut down for days/weeks whenever we feel overwhelmed, so that's when all the misunderstanding/misinterpretation happened. Basically, lack of communication during LDR as both of us were in our downtime and made assumptions of each other.

He's still emotionally unstable, said he couldn't sleep and was so heartbroken; his eyes were red and teary when we video-called. Made me so heartache. He said sorry to me that he hurt me verbally (unaware that his words were that damaging to me, as he was in moments of anger back then), and that he still loved me. I said sorry to him too, for not telling him about my pain and left him quietly... which gave him a shock when he found out I had moved on.

The video-call made us became aware of how our words and actions that affected each other, and we rationalised why we said/did so and shared POVs. Not easy, but healing.

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Currently, no decision made yet about the current/future:
- If we want to be together again, we have lots of issues to iron out--- both of us are too tired to do the restoration work for now; too emotionally intensive and overwhelming at this point.
- If we choose to stay break off, then he has to accept the reality that I will be with other men, and he must willingly let go and not interfere in the future.

Not the best time to make any decision while both parties are still emo. Will see how things go as time passes...

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post Sep 23 2024, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 23 2024, 08:58 AM)
What you need to do now is drop both of them like hot potato and move on. By you not able to move on (hoping) you will be stuck. There is podcast which said breakup is like part of you died. It's painful. But you will get over it. Generally once breakup, don't try to get back together. That is what I learnt. So true. It's advise for guys but I believed it's applicable to female as well.
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Wish it could be that easy. It's hard to move on when things aren't clear nor conclusive yet, when both parties are still emo, and the relationship still have open loops and possibilities.

Most women (and some men) need closures to be able to move on. For me, I need proper closures because I hate to have regrets in life.

Regrets are some of the worst feelings to live with, and will forever haunt the affected. I'd rather be sad, stressed and emo for now... than to suffer from a lifetime of regrets later on, and spend my remaining years asking myself whyyyy I didn't do this or that back then when I had the chance to make amendments and change the ending... This is why I am giving them time. I am being compassionate to them, and I'm being wise by seeing things long-term. There is no time pressure to solve relationship issues.

Why people pressure themselves with hasty decisions in relationship... is because they have low tolerance for pain. They want instant solution and gratification to whatever that hurt them, and this is actually bad for personal growth and emotional maturity. So, don't get into any committed relationship/marriage if pleasure is all you seek (referring to men and women, in general).

I had met men who tried to cut relationship mess by making hasty decisions. Guess what? They're the most suppressed men because they didn't do their proper closure and healing; became emotionally unavailable and had issues in subsequent relationships or trusting women again or getting committed again.

Just because things are numb in the conscious mind, doesn't mean it will disappear in the subconscious mind. This is why there are more men who suffer from substance abuse, addictions, and get mentally ill until commit suicide... as compared to women.

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post Sep 23 2024, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 23 2024, 01:53 PM)
I just close and move on. Lol. Not that hard to be honest.
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Because you haven't loved any woman deeply enough yet...

and the one special woman who can change you hasn't appeared yet...

The day you meet her... is the day you become so-not-yourself.

This is when you'll start to realise more and feel the depth of emotions...

and experience the power of love... in the most unexpected way.

Everything about her will trigger your biological instinct as a man. You will try hard to resist and fight all your feelings, but you can't get her out of your mind and system.

She's like a virus that will infect every single part of you, and you'll be so love-smitten that you think and act abnormally...

Single men usually scoff when I tell them this, but when it happens to them... hehehe

So, never say never. 😉




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