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post Sep 12 2024, 07:50 AM, updated 2y ago

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The recent proposed public domain name system (DNS) redirection might cause global technology companies to redirect data centre investment plans from Malaysia to Thailand or Indonesia.

An industry source told Malaysiakini that the original decision and subsequent U-turn indicated instability and a lack of coherent direction in the government’s decision-making.

They said the DNS redirection would affect many global tech companies that have investments in data centres in Johor.

“Despite the U-turn made by the government on the redirection, some companies are already planning contingency plans on future investments in Malaysia and that includes shifting these investments to Thailand or Indonesia,” said the source.

Yesterday, Communications Minister Fahmi Fadzil said the government has decided not to proceed with a plan requiring all internet service providers (ISPs) to implement DNS redirection by the end of this month.

He added that the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) will continue to engage with stakeholders to cultivate a healthy online culture.

Over the weekend, the minister directed the MCMC to halt its DNS redirection proposal, following feedback from public consultations.

The commission previously clarified that the DNS redirection would target malicious websites, such as those involving pornography and online gambling, while legitimate sites would remain accessible.

Critics have said the move was an attempt to control public discourse by filtering out voices that challenge the government.

Manpower adjustments

The source suggested that affected companies are currently reviewing their headcount as staff may no longer be required if the plan to redirect investments takes root.

Johor has 14 data centres operated by 12 companies and is a hotspot for data centres in the country.

In May, Google announced that it earmarked US$2 billion (RM8.6 billion) to build its first data centre and cloud region in the country. Microsoft also allocated US$2.2 billion (RM9.5 billion) investment over the next four years to advance new cloud and artificial intelligence infrastructure (AI) here.

Others include TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, which has committed US$6 billion (RM25.9 billion) of foreign direct investment to the Malaysian Investment Development Authority till 2031.

TikTok, through ByteDance System Sdn Bhd, has developed a data centre at Sedenak Tech Park in Kulai, Johor and is an anchor tenant in other data centres in the area.

It is understood the companies would honour existing commitments, but future investments could be rerouted.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/718913

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post Sep 12 2024, 07:53 AM

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post Sep 12 2024, 07:54 AM

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it's indeed a stupid move

1. decision was made without consulting anyone
2. the change was quietly made and they thought no one will notice
3. then kecut and u-turned in a short timeframe

i also won't invest in a country like this
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Fahmi goebbels the clown of communication
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post Sep 12 2024, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 12 2024, 07:54 AM)
it's indeed a stupid move

1. decision was made without consulting anyone
2. the change was quietly made and they thought no one will notice
3. then kecut and u-turned in a short timeframe

i also won't invest in a country like this
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Means whatever they done got undo onot ekceli?
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post Sep 12 2024, 07:59 AM

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post Sep 12 2024, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Sep 12 2024, 07:59 AM)
Means whatever they done got undo onot ekceli?
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no idea but who cares, i already bypassed their redirection in the first place
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post Sep 12 2024, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Sep 12 2024, 07:59 AM)
Means whatever they done got undo onot ekceli?
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yes undo but they can't undo the damage done
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 12 2024, 08:01 AM)
yes undo but they can't undo the damage done
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another waiting to blow up is his socmed lesen thing

wait next year when no one register, let's see what he'll do

just one bad move after another. i think he better just sit there and do nothing
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budaya of shooting themselves in the foot while the foot is in their mouth
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 12 2024, 08:02 AM)
another waiting to blow up is his socmed lesen thing

wait next year when no one register, let's see what he'll do

just one bad move after another. i think he better just sit there and do nothing
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there's nothing he can do since there's no more server in MY for him to take action against

all the servers would be moved overseas and offering us VPN instead

again he can undo the move but can't undo the damage done
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When is the DNS thingy starts?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 12 2024, 08:04 AM)
there's nothing he can do since there's no more server in MY for him to take action against

all the servers would be moved overseas and offering us VPN instead

again he can undo the move but can't undo the damage done
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i can't recall any previous ministers who shot both of his feet one after another so quickly

i think his book on how to commit political suicide will be a best seller
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Was confused on this case.

My believe is that the redirection was ordered to MCM by Fahmi. Then too many problem faced and MCMC said it need fine-tune. Then Fahmi u-turned but then I read statement from Communication deputy stating that MCMC has to discussed this first before implementing.

This looks like deputy told boss to discuss first laugh.gif laugh.gif rclxub.gif
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so his initiave or come from someone higher up ? they way i see from his past actions, likely from someone higher up
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post Sep 12 2024, 08:08 AM

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He got KPI to achieve. Because lack of real talent in MY, the final not fully thought of ideas are used.

He just proven all that and more.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 12 2024, 08:08 AM)
He got KPI to achieve. Because lack of real talent in MY, the final not fully thought of ideas are used.

He just proven all that and more.
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if he got budget to hire real industry experts (not a fresh grad with cable that is), he would have been told they are stupid ideas don't do it

no budget pun, he can register an account in /k and ask for opinion. we'll definately laugh at his idea

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 12 2024, 08:05 AM)
i can't recall any previous ministers who shot both of his feet one after another so quickly

i think his book on how to commit political suicide will be a best seller
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His area will still vote for him prolly if he shout i work but kena victimized
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His area will still vote for him prolly if he shout i work but kena victimized
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lembah pantai is urban area, with good access to info

if kampung can la, but in urban area there is no escape
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 12 2024, 08:08 AM)
He got KPI to achieve. Because lack of real talent in MY, the final not fully thought of ideas are used.

He just proven all that and more.
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there are a lot of IT talents here in MY. it’s just that they are not in mcmc.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 12 2024, 08:01 AM)
yes undo but they can't undo the damage done
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Can. They can make a new law to guarantee internet freedom.

But knowing nuar he won't want it.
Ask him to implement 2 term pm also he dowan.
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Who is telling the truth here? If it blocks unsavoury websites then it should be good but if it has wider implications on the industry as a whole then was consultation done with the industry experts and players first? Gambling should be legalized to prevent online illegal gambling to better control the industry.
I smell bullshit here.
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 12 2024, 08:02 AM)
another waiting to blow up is his socmed lesen thing

wait next year when no one register, let's see what he'll do

just one bad move after another. i think he better just sit there and do nothing
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Maybe ride his postman bicycle circling his office and be a minister of office boy. After all, one of the most influential persons in an office is the secretary and the guy who delivers mails manually… they know all the gossips. And fits right in his role
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I posed this question at the unifi thread in network section, frankly I think even if there was an objection by anyone technically competent enough, it got squashed because minister said block dns.
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Confirm kena death threat la if he dare to block online gambling, do u know how much vip datuk samseng own these businesses, later ahlong also business drop half
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 12 2024, 07:54 AM)
it's indeed a stupid move

1. decision was made without consulting anyone
2. the change was quietly made and they thought no one will notice
3. then kecut and u-turned in a short timeframe

i also won't invest in a country like this
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Biar-la, fisrt term assholes as ministers like that, nak tunjuk pandai padahal bodo. Summore no tech experience or background, ingat pandai sangat.

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orang bawa pun macam babi, no discussion planning, teurs execute, this fakmi know shit about networking, must be adviced by some call "PRO" consultant.
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Once someone taste the power of kill-switch...
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 12 2024, 08:02 AM)
another waiting to blow up is his socmed lesen thing

wait next year when no one register, let's see what he'll do

just one bad move after another. i think he better just sit there and do nothing
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He also said contents of these platforms hosted here need to be religiously compliant. Remember?

And the head of the gov keep criticising western media n gov. There’s also the kill switch they would like to have.

Investors have lost confidence in this gov

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Replace him with Gobind. You will no longer see stupid decisions, announcements about announcements, and real cuts in telco prices.
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This people are not tech savvy
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 12 2024, 08:01 AM)
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Devils advocate here,

Maybe after the fall of previous gomen, installing this current gomen
A lot of "interested party" outside of Malaysia is looking to get a slice of this country

Maybe these interested parties are looking for ways to control and benefit off from an not nearly stable government, before anyone realize it, they get a one sided contract in and the country is locked in
Like the Singapore Malaysia water deal
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LOL Rossman is talking about it

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ahahaha he even took /k/ as one of his sources

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LOL Rossman is talking about it
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Probably cause Fahmi his seat in coming GE. Good riddance this one.
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Luckily we have u-turn goverment, syukur
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a little anecdote
During the meeting with Mc and ISP, valid concerns were raised about the consideration that goes with implementing DNS redirection , but Mc threw all those out the window and insist the implimention to be done by X date or license to be revoked/penalty.
This mean that, advises were given but gov agency being gov agency, the motive of most decision are not exactly.......
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QUOTE(nobunee @ Sep 12 2024, 09:02 AM)
a little anecdote
During the meeting with Mc and ISP, valid concerns were raised about the consideration that goes with implementing DNS redirection , but Mc threw all those out the window and insist the implimention to be done by X date or license to be revoked/penalty.
This mean that, advises were given but gov agency being gov agency, the motive of most decision are not exactly.......
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I can't speak for all, I've dealt with gov agencies before, some are willing to listen. Just not MCMC perhaps
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QUOTE(nobunee @ Sep 12 2024, 09:02 AM)
a little anecdote
During the meeting with Mc and ISP, valid concerns were raised about the consideration that goes with implementing DNS redirection , but Mc threw all those out the window and insist the implimention to be done by X date or license to be revoked/penalty.
This mean that, advises were given but gov agency being gov agency, the motive of most decision are not exactly.......
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dah lah bodo, tak dengar nasihat lagi

memang padan muka kemaluan global

just pity the mehresian ppl, probably billions of fdi not coming in anymore bcoz of this stupid move
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I hope all fdi pull out ASAP.

Teach this terrorist government taliban wannabe a lesson.


Fark Mi can kiss goodbye to his MP seat next GE.
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Sep 12 2024, 07:59 AM)
Means whatever they done got undo onot ekceli?
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Undid already but loss of trust not so easy to undo.
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QUOTE(glorious @ Sep 12 2024, 09:25 AM)
any country in order not to be a banana country they need to be able to control own internet and social media

but too bad in this region the professional scene mostly consist of dumb talking cock offshoring workers who cannot do

rather than real technical people who capable to be father of great firewall or do video sharing site engineering
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Sound like communist and terrorist

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The intention is good but done in a hurry without awareness creation to public. Those who don't understand DNS redirection, shouldn't talk about the impact. The intention is to block websites that promote violence, terrorism, or illegal activities. By using DNS redirection, the government also can protect users from phishing sites or malware by redirecting them away from harmful content. The above statement above losing billions from DNS redirection is not accurate.
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QUOTE(rishi690 @ Sep 12 2024, 09:36 AM)
The intention is good but done in a hurry without awareness creation to public. Those who don't understand DNS redirection, shouldn't talk about the impact. The intention is to block websites that promote violence, terrorism, or illegal activities. By using DNS redirection, the government also can protect users from phishing sites or malware by redirecting them away from harmful content. The above statement above losing billions from DNS redirection is not accurate.
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We found the government cyber trooper!

Can you be any less obvious?

Also, fuck off with your "intention is good"


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man, I'm seeing a lot of dupes, not sure if legitimately defending without understanding subject matter or just being obtuse to get a rise out of people
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QUOTE(rishi690 @ Sep 12 2024, 09:36 AM)
The intention is good but done in a hurry without awareness creation to public. Those who don't understand DNS redirection, shouldn't talk about the impact. The intention is to block websites that promote violence, terrorism, or illegal activities. By using DNS redirection, the government also can protect users from phishing sites or malware by redirecting them away from harmful content. The above statement above losing billions from DNS redirection is not accurate.
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QUOTE(rishi690 @ Sep 12 2024, 09:36 AM)
The intention is good but done in a hurry without awareness creation to public. Those who don't understand DNS redirection, shouldn't talk about the impact. The intention is to block websites that promote violence, terrorism, or illegal activities. By using DNS redirection, the government also can protect users from phishing sites or malware by redirecting them away from harmful content. The above statement above losing billions from DNS redirection is not accurate.
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other ministers are working diligently to persuade investments into data centres.

previously it was wee ka siong with his reroute policy.
now this fahmi arise to continue sabotage the effort.

why anwar prime minister still wants to keep this fahmi as minister with challenged intelligence is beyond me....
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QUOTE(raynman @ Sep 12 2024, 07:50 AM)
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The recent proposed public domain name system (DNS) redirection might cause global technology companies to redirect data centre investment plans from Malaysia to Thailand or Indonesia.

An industry source told Malaysiakini that the original decision and subsequent U-turn indicated instability and a lack of coherent direction in the government’s decision-making.

They said the DNS redirection would affect many global tech companies that have investments in data centres in Johor.

“Despite the U-turn made by the government on the redirection, some companies are already planning contingency plans on future investments in Malaysia and that includes shifting these investments to Thailand or Indonesia,” said the source.

Yesterday, Communications Minister Fahmi Fadzil said the government has decided not to proceed with a plan requiring all internet service providers (ISPs) to implement DNS redirection by the end of this month.

He added that the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) will continue to engage with stakeholders to cultivate a healthy online culture.

Over the weekend, the minister directed the MCMC to halt its DNS redirection proposal, following feedback from public consultations.

The commission previously clarified that the DNS redirection would target malicious websites, such as those involving pornography and online gambling, while legitimate sites would remain accessible.

Critics have said the move was an attempt to control public discourse by filtering out voices that challenge the government.

Manpower adjustments

The source suggested that affected companies are currently reviewing their headcount as staff may no longer be required if the plan to redirect investments takes root.

Johor has 14 data centres operated by 12 companies and is a hotspot for data centres in the country.

In May, Google announced that it earmarked US$2 billion (RM8.6 billion) to build its first data centre and cloud region in the country. Microsoft also allocated US$2.2 billion (RM9.5 billion) investment over the next four years to advance new cloud and artificial intelligence infrastructure (AI) here.

Others include TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, which has committed US$6 billion (RM25.9 billion) of foreign direct investment to the Malaysian Investment Development Authority till 2031.

TikTok, through ByteDance System Sdn Bhd, has developed a data centre at Sedenak Tech Park in Kulai, Johor and is an anchor tenant in other data centres in the area.

It is understood the companies would honour existing commitments, but future investments could be rerouted.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/718913
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Sep 12 2024, 09:43 AM)
We found the government cyber trooper!

Can you be any less obvious?

Also, fuck off with your "intention is good"
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hahaha not a cyber trooper but a system engineer who know how DNS redirection actually works. I'm only supporting the move or the step that they take to mitigate the cyber security not how it was plan and implemented by the government. We should give credit where it deserves and be a critic otherwise. If you still think what u say is right than it is your freedom of speech to curse me.
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QUOTE(rishi690 @ Sep 12 2024, 10:40 AM)
hahaha not a cyber trooper but a system engineer who know how DNS redirection actually works. I'm only supporting the move or the step that they take to mitigate the cyber security not how it was plan and implemented by the government. We should give credit where it deserves and be a critic otherwise. If you still think what u say is right than it is your freedom of speech to curse me.
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The internet isn't any safer.

I rather trust cloudflare and Google than this taliban government.

After getting cucked again and again by your same government, Malaysian don't learn do they? Still proceed to trust the government Lmao


What a fucking joke.

Also, how much does PMX or Fark Mi pay you?
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His area will still vote for him prolly if he shout i work but kena victimized
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Congrats Fahmi bodoh. Next halal cert issue also will scare investors away.
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QUOTE(rishi690 @ Sep 12 2024, 09:36 AM)
The intention is good but done in a hurry without awareness creation to public. Those who don't understand DNS redirection, shouldn't talk about the impact. The intention is to block websites that promote violence, terrorism, or illegal activities. By using DNS redirection, the government also can protect users from phishing sites or malware by redirecting them away from harmful content. The above statement above losing billions from DNS redirection is not accurate.
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Explain this

I am using AdGuard DNS to block ads & prawn from my family internet. Previously the government blocked the DNS (which ADGuard DNS were one of the affected servers) and my adblocking shield is broken and i see ads pop out everywhere. So how the hell can the government protect me if my family members accidentally pressed on the ads?

If you wanna support the government movement, be my guest, i am not going to argue with you, but i am making a clear statement that blocking DNS blindly is an utter stupid move.

EDIT:

I just done with the family part, now i am getting on the corporate part. My company uses Cloudflare Turnstile to verify no one spam our corporate website and thanks to the not so intelligence government move, I have problem logging to the Cloudflare from MALAYSIA unless I VPN to my another remote office in Thailand just to gain access to CloudFlare. So tell me is this intention good or just a pure baboon's jobs? It is affecting everyone that is using the DNS for good intention/work related.

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QUOTE(BladeRider88 @ Sep 12 2024, 10:51 AM)
Explain this

I am using AdGuard DNS to block ads & prawn from my family internet. Previously the government blocked the DNS (which ADGuard DNS were one of the affected servers) and my  adblocking shield is broken and i see ads pop out everywhere. So how the hell can the government protect me if my family members accidentally pressed on the ads?

If you wanna support the government movement, be my guest, i am not going to argue with you, but i am making a clear statement that blocking DNS blindly is an utter stupid move.
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yes, stock TM DNS allows more porn and ads than PFblocker and family.cloudflare-dns combo
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yes, stock TM DNS allows more porn and ads than PFblocker and family.cloudflare-dns combo
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Yes TM nut vs International Giants. Come on, we all know which DNS is superior. whistling.gif
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u-turn so fast

maybe a big investor complained

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Just bring back Gobind.
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QUOTE(rishi690 @ Sep 12 2024, 11:02 AM)
A good decision making should be based on data driven which is lacking in this situation. They don't pay me but I pay their salary through my contribution to the countries tax. I don't know about you. You won't see any more reply because I believe that முட்டாள்களுக்கு விளக்கினால், மழையில் புல்லை நொறுக்க நினைப்பதற்குச் சமம்!
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Dey. Gtfo with your Tamil. Write in English like how civilized people are communicating here.


Good decision making shouldn't infringe on the rights, freedom and liberty of people in the name of protecting the children.

Nobody fucking asked.
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QUOTE(rishi690 @ Sep 12 2024, 09:36 AM)
The intention is good but done in a hurry without awareness creation to public. Those who don't understand DNS redirection, shouldn't talk about the impact. The intention is to block websites that promote violence, terrorism, or illegal activities. By using DNS redirection, the government also can protect users from phishing sites or malware by redirecting them away from harmful content. The above statement above losing billions from DNS redirection is not accurate.
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Sep 12 2024, 11:25 AM)
Dey. Gtfo with your Tamil. Write in English like how civilized people are communicating here.
Good decision making shouldn't infringe on the rights, freedom and liberty of people in the name of protecting the children.

Nobody fucking asked.
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Google translate can help, here icon_rolleyes.gif
"Explaining to fools is like trying to crush grass in the rain!"
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BladeRider88, I think he just ghost you after giving you a like. LOL
What kind of "system engineer" fucked up so badly, come here to say we all don't know anything about DNS poisoning / DNS hijacking / BGP hijacking.
Then proceed to say he deserve to be given credit.

None of our telco have DNSSEC, so I am not even sure what kind of "cyber security" he did.
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QUOTE(rishi690 @ Sep 12 2024, 09:36 AM)
The intention is good but done in a hurry without awareness creation to public. Those who don't understand DNS redirection, shouldn't talk about the impact. The intention is to block websites that promote violence, terrorism, or illegal activities. By using DNS redirection, the government also can protect users from phishing sites or malware by redirecting them away from harmful content. The above statement above losing billions from DNS redirection is not accurate.
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first off the road to hell is paved with good intentions

secondly, family.cloudflare-dns did a way better job blocking adult sites than TM, so that argument is invalid. if their intentions was indeed true, to block porn, they would have left that family safe dns alone, but we all know what actually happened last Friday.
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I'm more interested in the actual issues they are covering up using the DNS redirect issue.

Yes, I think the whole DNS thing is a distraction. Distract us from Madani's failure to reform the economy.

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QUOTE(fanlou @ Sep 12 2024, 11:29 AM)
Google translate can help, here  icon_rolleyes.gif
"Explaining to fools is like trying to crush grass in the rain!"
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sry, not gonna waste time translating.

you can get banned for using tamil to post yeah. stick to english
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QUOTE(kwss @ Sep 12 2024, 11:39 AM)
BladeRider88, I think he just ghost you after giving you a like. LOL
What kind of "system engineer" fucked up so badly, come here to say we all don't know anything about DNS poisoning / DNS hijacking / BGP hijacking.
Then proceed to say he deserve to be given credit.

None of our telco have DNSSEC, so I am not even sure what kind of "cyber security" he did.
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Sorry i know this is /k but i just can't help it when someone try to beautify a BS statement/incident whistling.gif

Since telco are not able to protect us, then it is on our own to cover our butt laugh.gif


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These fellas on top has got no reliable IT advisers ke?
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QUOTE(rishi690 @ Sep 12 2024, 11:02 AM)
A good decision making should be based on data driven which is lacking in this situation. They don't pay me but I pay their salary through my contribution to the countries tax. I don't know about you. You won't see any more reply because I believe that முட்டாள்களுக்கு விளக்கினால், மழையில் புல்லை நொறுக்க நினைப்பதற்குச் சமம்!
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2.kita akan fikir sebelum buat keputusan
3.senang jer jg govt ni sbnrnya

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Will resign not ? I guess not eh.
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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Sep 12 2024, 12:31 PM)
Will resign not ? I guess not eh.
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Will resign not ? I guess not eh.
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QUOTE(rishi690 @ Sep 12 2024, 09:36 AM)
The intention is good but done in a hurry without awareness creation to public. Those who don't understand DNS redirection, shouldn't talk about the impact. The intention is to block websites that promote violence, terrorism, or illegal activities. By using DNS redirection, the government also can protect users from phishing sites or malware by redirecting them away from harmful content. The above statement above losing billions from DNS redirection is not accurate.
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Intention is good but on paper only. Unfortunately their way of implementation puts the nail in coffin. In discreet some more. Memang akan kena undang kecam belasah punya.
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The DNS blocking by MCMC is nonsense.
They block the website randomly without any court order.

Ini macam minta polis tembak/tangkap orang dulu sebelum dapatkan waran ataupun perintah mahkamah.
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Aiyah Fahmi you should put your foot down and force them to obey your laws la. Ini bumi milik siapa ?
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I tell u la, next GE, PN can field a Gerakan candidate in his constituency, sure win one

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QUOTE(raynman @ Sep 12 2024, 07:50 AM)
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The recent proposed public domain name system (DNS) redirection might cause global technology companies to redirect data centre investment plans from Malaysia to Thailand or Indonesia.

An industry source told Malaysiakini that the original decision and subsequent U-turn indicated instability and a lack of coherent direction in the government’s decision-making.

They said the DNS redirection would affect many global tech companies that have investments in data centres in Johor.

“Despite the U-turn made by the government on the redirection, some companies are already planning contingency plans on future investments in Malaysia and that includes shifting these investments to Thailand or Indonesia,” said the source.

Yesterday, Communications Minister Fahmi Fadzil said the government has decided not to proceed with a plan requiring all internet service providers (ISPs) to implement DNS redirection by the end of this month.

He added that the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) will continue to engage with stakeholders to cultivate a healthy online culture.

Over the weekend, the minister directed the MCMC to halt its DNS redirection proposal, following feedback from public consultations.

The commission previously clarified that the DNS redirection would target malicious websites, such as those involving pornography and online gambling, while legitimate sites would remain accessible.

Critics have said the move was an attempt to control public discourse by filtering out voices that challenge the government.

Manpower adjustments

The source suggested that affected companies are currently reviewing their headcount as staff may no longer be required if the plan to redirect investments takes root.

Johor has 14 data centres operated by 12 companies and is a hotspot for data centres in the country.

In May, Google announced that it earmarked US$2 billion (RM8.6 billion) to build its first data centre and cloud region in the country. Microsoft also allocated US$2.2 billion (RM9.5 billion) investment over the next four years to advance new cloud and artificial intelligence infrastructure (AI) here.

Others include TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, which has committed US$6 billion (RM25.9 billion) of foreign direct investment to the Malaysian Investment Development Authority till 2031.

TikTok, through ByteDance System Sdn Bhd, has developed a data centre at Sedenak Tech Park in Kulai, Johor and is an anchor tenant in other data centres in the area.

It is understood the companies would honour existing commitments, but future investments could be rerouted.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/718913
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the most clueless lapsap moron minister ever in dis entire gomen not only that even previous gomen made him truly a different level of moron

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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Sep 12 2024, 12:31 PM)
Will resign not ? I guess not eh.
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Fahmi shud take ownership at this humiliating episode and do the right thing….resign!

Clown!

If he still minister I will never vote pakatan harapan anymore. Never!
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Should had resign and put capable people in. But he doesnt have any honor. And make pikachu face when ppl dont Respek u. Ptuii..
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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Sep 12 2024, 12:31 PM)
Will resign not ? I guess not eh.
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We already hit new low with the education minister and terrorist cosplay scandal. Tak resign pun.

Dns issue is child's play compared to that.
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These fellas on top has got no reliable IT advisers ke?
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Just a simple facts, do you know that current MCMC Chair was a paki air steward??? with 0 credentials in IT 🤭 .......
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epic fail!
even louis rossman also made a video about this
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No wonder I saw a lot of job vacancies at MCMC.
Found the lists on Jobstreet.


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Just a simple facts, do you know that current MCMC Chair was a paki air steward??? with 0 credentials in IT 🤭 .......
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who is this sampah again? how can he get this position?
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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Sep 12 2024, 09:51 PM)
We already hit new low with the education minister and terrorist cosplay scandal. Tak resign pun.

Dns issue is child's play compared to that.
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Sep 12 2024, 11:52 PM)
who is this sampah again? how can he get this position?
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UMNO supporter. Not trolling.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 12 2024, 08:07 AM)
Was confused on this case.

My believe is that the redirection was ordered to MCM by Fahmi. Then too many problem faced and MCMC said it need fine-tune. Then Fahmi u-turned but then I read statement from Communication deputy stating that MCMC has to discussed this first before implementing.

This looks like deputy told boss to discuss first  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  rclxub.gif
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Wonder what is his credentials as communication minister? Or those of his advisors...

It was a hair brained idea from the get go. But Malaysia has had a history of implementing something then realised it doesn't work.
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maybe fahmi should create a dupe account in /k

at least he get honest feedback from people better than those that just kiss ass

in /k if u bodo, everyone say u bodo
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 13 2024, 09:42 AM)
Wonder what is his credentials as communication minister? Or those of his advisors...

It was a hair brained idea from the get go. But Malaysia has had a history of implementing something then realised it doesn't work.
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He is not well verse in IT for sure and his advisors probably just hear what their noob friend said. If you ask any IT guys if it is possible to use DNS to block, the answer would be still yes but they would not tell what would be the problem because it would be like giving advise to boss.
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/ktards sure knows how to tokok, let's organize a protest like bersih whistling.gif
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Sep 12 2024, 07:59 AM)
Means whatever they done got undo onot ekceli?
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QUOTE(BladeRider88 @ Sep 12 2024, 11:03 AM)
Yes TM nut vs International Giants. Come on, we all know which DNS is superior.  whistling.gif
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TM DNS server go down, everyone die with them. All traffic stuck.
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TM DNS server go down, everyone die with them. All traffic stuck.
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