If Recon then Harrier is a good choice, easy to maintain

I think the only negative is the road tax if you never have 2000cc and above car before

I see quite a few Jaecoo J7 on the road these days. Let's see it's reliability over the years, then next time can consider this brand.

Chery was such a huge letdown many years ago.

It's manageable.. only RM290 extra per year if you compare with 1.5L , RM24 extra per month.. RM2900 extra if you own it for 10 years..

If you can afford a RM140k car, the extra RM290 is like sap sap sui because your insurance and other cost will be higher... unless you are buying a budget car under RM50k then you would want to consider road tax.

The RM290 extra per year easily recovered due to its reliability and easy maintenance..

I am now paying RM880 for 2.5 na , my previous car was only 1.2 turbo and was paying only RM55 😆..

This post has been edited by OrangeGrove: Sep 13 2024, 09:44 PM

Looks like you already have many suggestions here. As for your question which is better, the Corolla Cross hybrid or normal version, I have test driven both last year and to me the normal version is my pick for better drivability. Only pick hybrid if fuel consumption is your priority. You can test drive both and decide for yourself. FWIW the Corolla Cross comes with a foot brake, the upcoming facelift due to launch next year will drop the foot brake, replaced by electronic parking brake.

Another option if you are not in a hurry is the upcoming Nissan Kicks due to launch before end of this year. It has an electric motor driven by petrol.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Sep 13 2024, 11:43 PM

IMHO among the Japanese Corolla cross hybrid is way more drivable. Instant torque 0-50, and smooth all the way.

But it’s small.
Get the facelift it will do away with footbrake.

For real bang for buck I’d take the new x70.

Other than brand perception and potentially “spare part shortage “ it has everything. Size comfort handling acceleration safety looks ok to me too. Will save you a pretty penny too.

i think auto buzz did a review recently and the fuel consumption for mainly highway driving was 11 litres per 100 km

is that considered good or bad?

Full highway driving, 11l per 100km is kinda high for a 1.6t, but maybe slightly justified by the weight and size of the car.

This one really make me burst out laughing

Most probably not into recond as many friends and family relatives have bad experiences in recond.

I am not familiar with car as well, scared fall into sxxxhole.

Harrier no doubt is very reliable but the new price is out of my budget.

Design of Jaecoo looks very good but I see many in China platform complain tail light masuk air or the bottom of car become rusty.

Thanks for your insight.

Most probably if were to choose corolla, I might be picking the old version since it's more rebate as opposed to a newer one.

I don't really need much power since I wont be driving that fast. Just a regular car that is comfort is good enough eventually.

X70 rear looks a little bit too dated but if it's good bang of buck, I might be considering it as well since the main concern is comfort and bang for buck.

Is X70 premium variant worth the 13k more than the executive one?

Nappa leather and ADAS whether justify the 13k extra?

Oh yes, I don't really into EV car at the moment. Hybrid might be still okay since if battery goes wrong, we still can use the car as conventional ICE car? Not sure whether it is possible.

Saw the Tiggo 8 in one exhibition! It indeed quite huge and the interior is decent.

But Cherry Tiggo 8 is out of the budget range I believe. 160k+ if not mistaken.

Seemed like corolla cross is the one to go with the ongoing promo make it even a better deal

Hey there! Have you make up your mind?

I was thinking of whether to take up the cross with rebate or X70 with 7k rebate as well.

Not sure which one would give better bang of bucks.

I think foot brake is fine for me as I have close family that own Alza and occasionally I do drive the Alza without much problem.

Forester is in 160k+ range I believe so it's totally out of budget. Trying to stay below 140k if possible.

P2 SUV seemed like delay for quite some time already. Else it seemed like a better deal than taking cross.
That's looks like copy and paste from RR.

But Jaecoo just launch, I don't think it's going to be that fast of facelift?

That's good to know! The ride is kinda low though.

How is the comfort level as compare to those suv like x70 or toyota cross?

Alza if not mistaken would have long waiting list.

You rented which variant previously?

I know picking cars is 100 % emotions and 100% logic. You are asking for bang for the buck and not the prettiest bang.

Anyhow I find the Corolla cross not the greatest looker either, not especially the pre facelift.

Tbh I bought a cx-5 but it’s slightly above your mentioned budget. If you can swing it is definitely suggest test drive. Even the 2.0 high.

So in my mind yes I won’t even consider a car that does not do adas. And not even the previous x70 that has poor adas.

Honda steering rack say hi to peace of mind . Hahaha

Good move. Wait until year end or better still, wait until they introduce the new facelift Corolla Cross model, then you will surely get a huge discount, surely more than RM10k as they try to clear the old models. When Toyota introduce the facelift Corolla sedan, there were huge discounts up to RM15k, average or minimum RM13k for the old Corolla model.

As for your question on which vehicle is more comfortable, the Corolla Cross or Alza, based on my experience of the test drive of the Corolla Cross and sitting inside the Alza as a passenger (my brother-in-law owns one), both are equally comfortable but the Corolla Cross has the edge mainly due to the suspension which is not as bouncy or soft as the Alza. There is a difference with the seat material too, the Corolla Cross comes with leather seats while the Alza comes with fabric seats even for the high spec model. One can choose to install the PVC seat cover option at Perodua for just RM1k if I'm not mistaken. The PVC seats feel OK but for the price you can't expect much and isn't as comfortable as the leather seats which come as standard in the Corolla Cross or other vehicles. For space in the 2nd row, the Alza actually feels slightly roomier than the Corolla Cross but I may be wrong.

Actually the Alza is a 7 seater and isn't exactly comparable to the Corolla Cross which is a 5-seater SUV. The 3rd row in the Alza is actually not bad and can fit a single adult around 5' 7" rather comfortably but with limited legroom. It's a bouncy ride if sitting in the 3rd row. If the 3rd row is not important, the Corolla Cross is the better choice for overall comfort and performance but for overall value, I would have to say the Alza is great value as a 7-seater. Big price difference between Corolla Cross and Alza too so you are actually looking at 2 different vehicles.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Sep 17 2024, 12:12 PM

rented the alza h... its not as high as suv but higher than normal cars for sure... too high is not so good imho as old folks hard to get in and out... i think is a good compromise for a family car... 2nd row got so much leg rooms... 7 seater means 3 generations can go outing easily in one car...

dunno about comfort vs x70/cross... you will have to try it on the same road to test it out... i didn't find nvh lacking... the x70/cross may well be better but its not going to be night and day... you can test the cross and its sister veloz out on the same day/road...

ps... when you test drive, take note of tire size and pressure also... ideally you test the model you wanna get, but often they have the higher spec model with bigger sportier rims which compromises comfort...


This post has been edited by dwRK: Sep 17 2024, 12:17 PM

Have the Alza and sit in my friend CC regularly for meals. The cross is way more comfortable and P2 being true to its history puts in the worse seats in their models. Any journey longer than a few hours in Alza is intolerable.

Alza wheelbase is longer than CC that makes its center row more spacious even if last row adjusted for adults.

Still a B-segment with myvi engine straining to pull when fully loaded. Would get the better build more comfortable C-segment Cross if budget permits.

Good to know. I haven't driven the Alza but have sat in it several times in the 2nd row and also 3rd row. My parents usually sit in the 2nd row together with the granddaughter and often praise the generous legroom and space in the 2nd row seats. No complaints whatsoever for a 7-seater that's just RM70k which is unbeatable value. Other equivalent 7-seater MPVs are priced close to RM100k or more, and I was told that the 3rd row seat of the Mitsubishi XPander has smaller space and legroom than the Alza but it's priced much higher at RM110k+, though it may have other advantages elsewhere such as nicer exterior etc.

The Corolla Cross rear seat does feel a little small for a C-segment when compared to B-segment Alza which is weird. Supposedly the Corolla Cross cabin space and legroom at the rear seats should be better than the Perodua Alza but it's the other way round.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Sep 17 2024, 04:08 PM

I am not sure about other X70s but one of our X70 company car recently encountered gearbox problem where it couldn't shift to D. IT's just above 5 years old. Personally the X70 looks dated and bulky to me, also fuel consumption is on the high side.

dont understand why you all comparing Alza vs Corolla Cross.
Totally Different class I would say
better test drive Harrier recon, this will be much better than both Alza and Cross.

Cbu or ckd unit? The gb issues only on the cbu cz using old, 6 gear auto torque converter while ckd use DCT. Few cases of DCT when had issues are due to HCA pump, but kudos to Proton, they can take this under warranty within 5 years unlimited mileage.

Suv size with small displacement turbo engine fc sure on high side if really push it. But considerate drive (120-140kmh) long distance travel gets me 8.4L/100km. City drive meanwhile different story, can easily hit 10L/100km for KL massive jem

Now in Indonesia, take their Grab for 70km distance, on Toyota Avanza (Alza) manual here, with 5 gear. On 110-120kmh, it kinda high rpm (seem similar to Toyota Aruz). This car for those who had 3-4 kids but with affordable price, engine wise I believe it's an underpower. But no issues for normal driving drive without pushing