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TSSotsotzaii
post Sep 8 2024, 11:07 PM, updated 2y ago

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Just got a question, I'm setting the time for my PRX 80, I was told best to turn it only in the clockwise direction, which I did, but when I turn it clockwise, the time is instead moving backwards instead of forward, so should I actually be turning anti-clockwise to move the time forward ?


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post Sep 9 2024, 12:16 AM

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It doesn't matter. Turn it which way you want it. These are modern automatics no harm will be done.
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post Sep 9 2024, 01:55 AM

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time must be moving forward.
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post Sep 9 2024, 02:55 AM

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Turn the crown in the direction that moves the hands forward.
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post Sep 9 2024, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Sep 9 2024, 02:55 AM)
Turn the crown in the direction that moves the hands forward.
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QUOTE(geforce88 @ Sep 9 2024, 01:55 AM)
time must be moving forward.
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Ahh ok so turning clockwise direction doesn’t mean the crown’s direction but the movement itself must be moving clockwise ( forward ).

What about setting the date on an automatic ? For example on months that have only 28/30 days. I know that we shouldn’t adjust / change the date when the watch’s time is at 10 PM - 2 AM as that’s the danger zone, so if its in danger zone, just set the time to 630 am/pm and go back to change the date ? If its outside the dange zone by default then just proceed to change the date ?
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post Sep 9 2024, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Sep 9 2024, 08:26 AM)
Ahh ok so turning clockwise direction doesn’t mean the crown’s direction but the movement itself must be moving clockwise ( forward ).

What about setting the date on an automatic ? For example on months that have only 28/30 days. I know that we shouldn’t adjust / change the date when the watch’s time is at 10 PM - 2 AM as that’s the danger zone, so if its in danger zone, just set the time to 630 am/pm and go back to change the date ? If its outside the dange zone by default then just proceed to change the date ?
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Well, that's what my Rolex AD has been trying to impress upon me... but I've never really listened, and so far, my watches have not misbehaved (I do service them regularly though). The submariner which I have is even more confusing for an old fogey like me. I gotta turn the crown one way to move the hands forward, but the crown turns the other way to move the date forward.

I need a Casio.
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post Sep 9 2024, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Sep 9 2024, 08:26 AM)
Ahh ok so turning clockwise direction doesn’t mean the crown’s direction but the movement itself must be moving clockwise ( forward ).

What about setting the date on an automatic ? For example on months that have only 28/30 days. I know that we shouldn’t adjust / change the date when the watch’s time is at 10 PM - 2 AM as that’s the danger zone, so if its in danger zone, just set the time to 630 am/pm and go back to change the date ? If its outside the dange zone by default then just proceed to change the date ?
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Its good practice to only move clockwise while adjusting the time because that's the natural movement of the watch anyway. If its just to fine tune the minute hands a couple of minutes, i'd be fine with moving it counter clockwise but if you're adjusting the hour hands like 2-3 or more hours, just go clockwise. Go one full round if i have to.

Regarding your second point, yeah, i do what u do. I would never set the date within the danger zone time, always set my hour to around 6, then i adjust the date. accordingly. I've destroyed the day wheel on my citizen diver once by not being careful with this.
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post Sep 9 2024, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Sep 9 2024, 08:51 AM)
Its good practice to only move clockwise while adjusting the time because that's the natural movement of the watch anyway. If its just to fine tune the minute hands a couple of minutes, i'd be fine with moving it counter clockwise but if you're adjusting the hour hands like 2-3 or more hours, just go clockwise. Go one full round if i have to.

Regarding your second point, yeah, i do what u do. I would never set the date within the danger zone time, always set my hour to around 6, then i adjust the date. accordingly. I've destroyed the day wheel on my citizen diver once by not being careful with this.
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Ahh ok, so if the time is still moving correctly, and I only have to advance the date forward, do it outside of the danger zone, and then simply pull to 2nd position and advance the date without needing to change the hour hands to 6 ? ( Assuming the time did not die completely within the danger zone )

QUOTE(hksgmy @ Sep 9 2024, 08:28 AM)
Well, that's what my Rolex AD has been trying to impress upon me... but I've never really listened, and so far, my watches have not misbehaved (I do service them regularly though). The submariner which I have is even more confusing for an old fogey like me. I gotta turn the crown one way to move the hands forward, but the crown turns the other way to move the date forward.

I need a Casio.
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Yeah because before this, I was under the impression that when people say turn it clockwise to set the time, I thought it's the crown's direction, so I was moving my crown clockwise but the hands is moving backwards, so I thought maybe what they meant is the hands moving clockwise, not the crown, as one user above said, the crown moves either clockwise / counter-clockwise depending on the watch's brand and models, so what's essential is moving the hands clockwise, not the crown. tongue.gif
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post Sep 9 2024, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Sep 9 2024, 09:05 AM)
Ahh ok, so if the time is still moving correctly, and I only have to advance the date forward, do it outside of the danger zone, and then simply pull to 2nd position and advance the date without needing to change the hour hands to 6 ? ( Assuming the time did not die completely within the danger zone )
Yeah because before this, I was under the impression that when people say turn it clockwise to set the time, I thought it's the crown's direction, so I was moving my crown clockwise but the hands is moving backwards, so I thought maybe what they meant is the hands moving clockwise, not the crown, as one user above said, the crown moves either clockwise / counter-clockwise depending on the watch's brand and models, so what's essential is moving the hands clockwise, not the crown.  tongue.gif
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actually you can use the danger zone to your benefit, sometimes you really anal want the date to change when it strike 12am, some you can nudge the time front/back a bit to adjust the timing.
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post Sep 14 2024, 09:42 AM

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Sorry to bump this thread, but since it's the same topic, just got a question about where the bracelet's clasp should sit underneath the wrist ?

I was browsing through the internet and came upon the position of the bracelet under the wrist, some say it should sit right at the dead center under the wrist, some say it depends on the wrist size, links, the fit and comfortability and so on. I also have no idea what 12 o clock or 6 o clock means.

Then I look at my wrist where my bracelet is sitting under my wrist, the bracelet is sitting slightly over to the left side of my wrist ( the side where my pinky is on my right hand ), the fit is good and comfortable after the AD adjusted according to my wrist, but the clasp is not sitting in the dead center under the wrist, should it be sitting at the center ?

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post Sep 14 2024, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Sep 14 2024, 09:42 AM)
Sorry to bump this thread, but since it's the same topic, just got a question about where the bracelet's clasp should sit underneath the wrist ?

I was browsing through the internet and came upon the position of the bracelet under the wrist, some say it should sit right at the dead center under the wrist, some say it depends on the wrist size, links, the fit and comfortability and so on. I also have no idea what 12 o clock or 6 o clock means.

Then I look at my wrist where my bracelet is sitting under my wrist, the bracelet is sitting slightly over to the left side of my wrist ( the side where my pinky is on my right hand ), the fit is good and comfortable after the AD adjusted according to my wrist, but the clasp is not sitting in the dead center under the wrist, should it be sitting at the center ?

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Up to your own preference.

I prefer it to be centred, but also have a watch which cannot be centred due to the presence of permanent links.

No right or wrong, so long as you’re comfortable.

12 o clock means the bracelet on the 12 o clock side of the watch.

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post Sep 14 2024, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Sep 14 2024, 09:42 AM)
Sorry to bump this thread, but since it's the same topic, just got a question about where the bracelet's clasp should sit underneath the wrist ?

I was browsing through the internet and came upon the position of the bracelet under the wrist, some say it should sit right at the dead center under the wrist, some say it depends on the wrist size, links, the fit and comfortability and so on. I also have no idea what 12 o clock or 6 o clock means.

Then I look at my wrist where my bracelet is sitting under my wrist, the bracelet is sitting slightly over to the left side of my wrist ( the side where my pinky is on my right hand ), the fit is good and comfortable after the AD adjusted according to my wrist, but the clasp is not sitting in the dead center under the wrist, should it be sitting at the center ?

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Up to your preference. For me I prefer landed in center of my wrist.
But sometimes can't avoid as links are not equal on both side due to resizing on links. (Odd number)

As long it's comfortable tucked on your wrist will do. There is no rules on how you wore your watch.
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post Sep 14 2024, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Sep 9 2024, 08:28 AM)
Well, that's what my Rolex AD has been trying to impress upon me... but I've never really listened, and so far, my watches have not misbehaved (I do service them regularly though). The submariner which I have is even more confusing for an old fogey like me. I gotta turn the crown one way to move the hands forward, but the crown turns the other way to move the date forward.

I need a Casio.
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Modern Rolex date mechanisms do not have a danger zone I believe.
And the date mechanism on their GMTs are designed to be able to move forwards and backwards.

Regarding your last line, that’s one of my pet peeves with the modern 32** movements.
The 31** movements have winding, time and date turning the same way.
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post Sep 14 2024, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Sep 14 2024, 09:42 AM)
Sorry to bump this thread, but since it's the same topic, just got a question about where the bracelet's clasp should sit underneath the wrist ?

I was browsing through the internet and came upon the position of the bracelet under the wrist, some say it should sit right at the dead center under the wrist, some say it depends on the wrist size, links, the fit and comfortability and so on. I also have no idea what 12 o clock or 6 o clock means.

Then I look at my wrist where my bracelet is sitting under my wrist, the bracelet is sitting slightly over to the left side of my wrist ( the side where my pinky is on my right hand ), the fit is good and comfortable after the AD adjusted according to my wrist, but the clasp is not sitting in the dead center under the wrist, should it be sitting at the center ?

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Does the watch dial face you correctly when you look at it? If it does and it's comfortable, then it's fine. Everyone's wrist is shaped differently. I have small wrists and with the wide deployment clasps, I have my watches sort of symmetrical. Otherwise the dial gets a bit offset when I look at it.

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post Sep 14 2024, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Sep 14 2024, 01:21 PM)
Modern Rolex date mechanisms do not have a danger zone I believe.
And the date mechanism on their GMTs are designed to be able to move forwards and backwards.

Regarding your last line, that’s one of my pet peeves with the modern 32** movements.
The 31** movements have winding, time and date turning the same way.
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Agree. My older Datejust, NO ISSUES ... they don't try to make me do mental gymnastics whenever I wind the crown one way or the other...
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post Sep 14 2024, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Sep 14 2024, 12:50 PM)
Up to your preference. For me I prefer landed in center of my wrist.
But sometimes can't avoid as links are not equal on both side due to resizing on links. (Odd number)

As long it's comfortable tucked on your wrist will do. There is no rules on how you wore your watch.
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QUOTE(bottomfrag @ Sep 14 2024, 01:25 PM)
Does the watch dial face you correctly when you look at it? If it does and it's comfortable, then it's fine. Everyone's wrist is shaped differently. I have small wrists and with the wide deployment clasps, I have my watches sort of symmetrical. Otherwise the dial gets a bit offset when I look at it.

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I see. Yeah, the watch dial sits on the center of my wrist and it doesn't move left or right, the fit is comfortable. Ahh, so the clasp will never actually be center because of the adjustments of the links, now I get it, thanks for the advice !

 

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