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post Sep 6 2024, 06:37 PM, updated 2y ago

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Letak rokok di bahagian tak halal? Naim bincang dengan KPDN

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/718351
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Menteri agama Mohd Na'im Mokhtar akan berbincang dengan rakan Menteri Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Kos Sara Hidup Armizan Mohd Ali berkaitan cadangan meletakkan rokok dalam bahagian tidak halal.

"Daripada perspektif kita ialah bahagian fatwa itu (pengharaman rokok).

"Jadi, sejauh mana nak menentukan (rokok) itu duduk di seksyen halal atau tidak, yang itu di bawah kuasa Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Kos Sara Hidup (KPDN).

β€œJadi, saya akan cuba bincang," katanya seperti dilaporkan media.

Dia ditanya pemberita berkaitan cadangan itu memandangkan rokok telah lama difatwakan haram untuk umat Islam.

Na'im berkata demikian pada sidang media selepas menyampaikan tajaan Skim Pembiayaan Hafiz (SPH) Jabatan Kemajuan Islam Malaysia (Jakim) di Institut Latihan Islam Malaysia (Ilim) di Bangi, hari ini.

Bahagian jualan tidak halal di kedai dan pasar raya biasanya menempatkan babi dan arak.


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Sep 6 2024, 06:37 PM)
Letak rokok di bahagian tak halal? Naim bincang dengan  KPDN

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/718351
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Let’s treat things consistently based on laws. Non halal shd be placed in non halal section, period.
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QUOTE(pobox @ Sep 6 2024, 06:37 PM)
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Won't happen la. They will argue cannot put together with pork and alcohol.
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sokong 9999%! let see those hypocrite moslem tebal muka beli benda haram
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Sep 6 2024, 06:40 PM)
Won't happen la. They will argue cannot put together with pork and alcohol.
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Honestly, those tat smoke 1+ pack a day do not care where you put the ciggies at and will still buy them.
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bagus. saya sokong. no more allow random places can buy rokok
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Non non shouldn't d buy from haram section anymore
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Settle vape issue baru cakap la, vape is halal or not
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Sep 6 2024, 06:40 PM)
Won't happen la. They will argue cannot put together with pork and alcohol.
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But they don't have a strong argument since all 3 is harom tongue.gif
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Sep 6 2024, 06:50 PM)
But they don't have a strong argument since all 3 is harom tongue.gif
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Some harom are more harom than others.
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It con lan firm won't happen, though is a very good idea
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Sep 6 2024, 06:50 PM)
Some harom are more harom than others.
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100% agree. put next to wine.
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QUOTE(cms @ Sep 6 2024, 06:38 PM)
Rokok mana boleh sentuh tuuu
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Sep 6 2024, 06:43 PM)
Honestly, those tat smoke 1+ pack a day do not care where you put the ciggies at and will still buy them.
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At least can discourage those smoke <= 1packet
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QUOTE(cms @ Sep 6 2024, 06:38 PM)
Rokok mana boleh sentuh tuuu
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Rokok dibuat dari babi ke sohai? U smoker butthurt is it?
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post Sep 6 2024, 06:54 PM

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won't happen one conlanfirm

sbb nanti beli rokok kena pi tempat ada vavi. mesti kecoh nanti
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 6 2024, 06:52 PM)
100% agree. put next to wine.
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Put next to vawi, who smoke who vawi devil.gif
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i actually want to see this being done...so that we can go non-halal section and roast them
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Business opportunity here to hire runners to buy ciggies for Muslims. I am sure some chinaman will be on it pronto.
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Sep 6 2024, 06:50 PM)
But they don't have a strong argument since all 3 is harom tongue.gif
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I read on X… the argument is pork is stated in the holy book but ciggie/vape is a Hadith. Hence …
Next someone on X on the same thread mentioned pork goes/form into the flesh but ciggie/vapes do not.
I am not well versed in these aspects but this is what I read from X on the halal issue about restaurant and food.

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 6 2024, 07:03 PM)
i actually want to see this being done...so that we can go non-halal section and roast them
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Nope. No revenge or hidden agenda. It is a drug, like beers. It also not halal by definition. Therefore, by law or guidelines, it shd be sold only in non halal section. Do not use this as an agenda for revenge, please.

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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Sep 6 2024, 06:50 PM)
But they don't have a strong argument since all 3 is harom tongue.gif
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ah u have forgotten they have the power of selective memory and argument. if it suits them, anything is possible
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Instead of snipping the problem at the roots, this is thought. Another clown in the gomen.πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 6 2024, 07:05 PM)
I read on X… the argument is pork is stated in the holy book but ciggie/vape is a Hadith.Β  Hence …
Next someone on X on the same thread mentioned pork goes/form into the flesh but ciggie/vapes do not.
I am not well versed in these aspects but this is what I read from X on the halal issue about restaurant and food.
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I read an even better one.

They say since sugar is also harmful to health, why not haramkan sugar also. Since sugar is not harom, then they use it to justify smoking also. rclxub.gif

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can put rasuah politicians there too
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 6 2024, 07:07 PM)
Nope.  No revenge or hidden agenda.  It is a drug, like beers.  It also not halal by definition.  Therefore, by law or guidelines, it shd be sold only in non halal section.  Do not use this as an agenda for revenge, please.
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funny how tiger beer is best served cold too
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Sep 6 2024, 07:14 PM)
I read an even better one.

They say since sugar is also harmful to health, why not haramkan sugar also. Since sugar is not harom, then they use it to justify smoking also.  rclxub.gif
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The logic is there though. Hahahaha
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Sep 6 2024, 07:14 PM)
I read an even better one.

They say since sugar is also harmful to health, why not haramkan sugar also. Since sugar is not harom, then they use it to justify smoking also.  rclxub.gif
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They never learned "Too much of a good thing is a bad thing"? 1 cigarette a day probably won't kill you, but 1 pack a day probably will. With sugar, all our food already has sugar, purposely adding even more sugar is bad.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 6 2024, 07:15 PM)
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funny how tiger beer is best served cold too
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In the cold climate countries, they drink their beers and stouts warm! Hahahaha. I do this as well on certain cold rainy days, at home.

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Sep 6 2024, 06:52 PM)
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Can still buy from petrol kiosk?

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must add non halal labels to rokok

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this won't change anything, smokers din't give a damn of where it stored doh.gif
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Sep 6 2024, 07:21 PM)
must add non halal labels to rokok
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Good idea too.
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Instead of those gaudy pics on the pack, just mandate the word HARAM to be printed on 50% of the front face of the pack. Much more direct. kan?
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Rokok got halal logo? If no, why consume?

Inb4 all buy seludup.

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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 6 2024, 07:05 PM)
I read on X… the argument is pork is stated in the holy book but ciggie/vape is a Hadith.  Hence …
Next someone on X on the same thread mentioned pork goes/form into the flesh but ciggie/vapes do not.
I am not well versed in these aspects but this is what I read from X on the halal issue about restaurant and food.
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The obvious clear thing is that X is not a mufti hence fatwa from netizen is not valid. Who cares except smoker justifying addiction. Hadith or holy book both also valid lah unless someone is antihadith brings up the argument
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QUOTE(pandah @ Sep 6 2024, 07:35 PM)
Rokok got halal logo? If no, why consume?

Inb4 all buy seludup.
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Don't get too excited. Later they make everything must halal, then u know....

Just like restaurants now...
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Or better yet don't allow selling it to Muslims, just like alcoholic drinks
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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Sep 6 2024, 07:37 PM)
The obvious clear thing is that X is not a mufti hence fatwa from netizen is not valid. Who cares except smoker justifying addiction. Hadith or holy book both also valid lah unless someone is antihadith brings up the argument
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I don’t know but I am sharing what I read on X here. True or not, I am not an authority on these matters of Muslim halal or haram. I find their arguments quite interesting and what I gathered is there are diff levels and definitions of β€˜haram-ness’.
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QUOTE(ceras @ Sep 6 2024, 07:27 PM)
Instead of those gaudy pics on the pack, just mandate the word HARAM to be printed on 50% of the front face of the pack. Much more direct. kan?
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There is no symbol for haram, only halal symbol issued worldwide. The closest haram (if I can say it is haram symbol) that I had seen was in BA flights domestic from Amsterdam. They had a picture of pig (cute one, BTW) on the paper box of the sandwich for breakfast. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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QUOTE(pokemon @ Sep 6 2024, 07:18 PM)
Can still buy from petrol kiosk?
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If the cashiers is willing to sell haram stuff. Remember how the Muslim cashiers do not want to sell beers or canned pork, in grocery stores?
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Wow gila ka. Which idiot suggest this? Want to start ww3?

Those pious rempit sure meroyan. Imagine wear kopiah then go babi section buy rokok.

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QUOTE(cms @ Sep 6 2024, 06:38 PM)
Rokok mana boleh sentuh tuuu
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Already haram, shouldn’t buy at all. Why bother what will it came into contact in haram section? innocent.gif
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Won’t get implemented one la

If it gets implemented I’ll listen to Raihan for one full year

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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 6 2024, 07:59 PM)
If the cashiers is willing to sell haram stuff.  Remember how the Muslim cashiers do not want to sell beers or canned pork, in grocery stores?
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But muslim cashiers can touch rokok.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Sep 6 2024, 06:37 PM)
Letak rokok di bahagian tak halal? Naim bincang dengan  KPDN

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/718351
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See the majority foam in the mouth if this happens.
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QUOTE(pokemon @ Sep 6 2024, 08:09 PM)
But muslim cashiers can touch rokok.
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Cos to them, rokok is not haram like pork or alcohol.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Sep 6 2024, 08:07 PM)
If it gets implemented I’ll listen to Raihan for one full year
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I agree. Rokok should be in non-halal section.

But there’s an easier way to circumvent this. Just re-label non-halal section to najis section. Then rokok doesn’t belong there, but the current items remain.
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Cos to them, rokok is not haram like pork or alcohol.
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Even MAS also serve alcohol to the passengers.

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Sokong this menteri

Must put big big sign non halal then see ore kito still buy or or not

If can put beside beer and see people still buy or not


Ore kito memang selective
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Please don't forget to include vaping products as part of the same category to be haram kan.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 6 2024, 08:09 PM)
See the majority foam in the mouth if this happens.
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I read the English version and also laughed at the commentators, who are mainly pro DAP. The bottom comments surely had me laughing!


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All countries try their own tricks to limit smoking. Some do generational ban, some raise price to the sky, some ban branding and display. Maybe moving to non-halal section most efficient in Malaysia smile.gif
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 6 2024, 01:23 PM)
I read the English version and also laughed at the commentators, who are mainly pro DAP.  The bottom comments surely had me laughing!
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What sign up in 1957?

Brits: you give citizenship to these immigrants we brought in to suck your resources dry, then we give you independence.

Malays: aight.
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I support too.. put next to arak.
Vape also in the group
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Sep 6 2024, 08:27 PM)
What sign up in 1957?

Brits: you give citizenship to these immigrants we brought in to suck your resources dry, then we give you independence.

Malays: aight.
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I think one of the agreement for needles is all foreigners are given citizenship, except the aborigines. So Malays with origins from Indonesia, Chinese from China and Indians from India are given. Otherwise no merdeka… 😎
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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Sep 6 2024, 08:28 PM)
Tabouley yinie machemm

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So this is PUAS problem when the person who initiate this is from Madani Cabinet! 😏
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Lel. Go ahead. I want to see whats their reasoning for buying rokok when its totally non halal
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They will just turn to ketum and weed
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 6 2024, 01:32 PM)
I think one of the agreement for needles is all foreigners are given citizenship, except the aborigines.  So Malays with origins from Indonesia, Chinese from China and Indians from India are given.  Otherwise no merdeka… 😎
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The name Tanah Melayu should give you some clue on who are the foreigners at that time.

In any case, a shrinking minority complaining about β€œcreeping Islamisation” in a muslim-majority country is weird af.

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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Sep 6 2024, 08:39 PM)
The name Tanah Melayu should give you some clue on who are the foreigners at that time.

In any case, a shrinking minority complaining about β€œcreeping Islamisation” in a muslim-majority country is weird af.
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If you insist. My Malay tells me Melayu means wilted! 🫑

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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 6 2024, 01:44 PM)
If you insist.  My Malay tells me Melayu means wilted!  🫑
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Shrinking minority and resorting to name-calling.

Bodes well for the future.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Sep 6 2024, 08:55 PM)
Shrinking minority and resorting to name-calling.

Bodes well for the future.
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Name calling? I merely show off my limited Malay language skills.
Just as you show off your history knowledge of tanah Melayu.

Anyway, let’s stop here before things get heated. Peace! 🀝
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 6 2024, 02:05 PM)
Name calling?  I merely show off my limited Malay language skills. 
Just as you show off your history knowledge of tanah Melayu. 

Anyway, let’s stop here before things get heated.  Peace!  🀝
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Go on and show off that knowledge of yours irl, in front of some Malays. See where that gets you. Perhaps some accolades?
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I don mind the whole halal haram thing, but if rokok is halal then hahahaha
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Sep 6 2024, 09:15 PM)
Go on and show off that knowledge of yours irl, in front of some Malays. See where that gets you. Perhaps some accolades?
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Peace, Bro. U sounded upset. I do not know the reasons for that.
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 6 2024, 02:19 PM)
Peace, Bro.  U sounded upset.  I do not know the reasons for that.
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I’m merely suggesting you show off your knowledge irl. You sound smart and wise here, I think you should share that with the world.
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QUOTE(The Retailer @ Sep 6 2024, 02:17 PM)
I don mind the whole halal haram thing, but if rokok is halal then hahahaha
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Rokok is definitely haram. But doesn’t stop muslims from flocking at mamak.
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Agreed.

Should only allow it to be sold in 4D shops and non-halal section.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Sep 6 2024, 09:23 PM)
I’m merely suggesting you show off your knowledge irl. You sound smart and wise here, I think you should share that with the world.
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Nope, I am a very stupid person by K definition cos I don’t support PH. only PH supporters are smartest in Malaysia. Others voters are all dummies, like me.
Hahaha…
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Alah! Apa susah. They can go and buy illegal/untaxed rokok.
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Rokok seludup kan ada
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If this happens, other non halal food will be force to another corner
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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Sep 6 2024, 06:54 PM)
Rokok dibuat dari babi ke sohai? U smoker butthurt is it?
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Nope, I am a very stupid person by K definition cos I don’t support PH.  only PH supporters are smartest in Malaysia.  Others voters are all dummies, like me. 
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Correction, not seen as najis but haram. Some I think may see it as lesser haram.

Rasuah pun haram, sex outside marriage is haram, sodomy also haram, liquor pun haram, dadah pun haram, ketum is also haram.

Many still indulge in those. Master race mentality, God will forgive or still have time to bertaubat (so enjoy dulu).

QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 6 2024, 08:11 PM)
Cos to them, rokok is not haram like pork or alcohol.
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later PAS sure blame salah DAP, Type C again

Ini agenda nak menyesatkan umat Islam ni. tujuan letak rokok kat non-halal section untuk meng-konfius-kan orang Islam untuk makan babi dan minum arak
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Adeh, skewed logic but not beyond PIS lebais and the wala'uns will telan bulat bulat.

QUOTE(tohff7 @ Sep 6 2024, 11:32 PM)
later PAS sure blame salah DAP, Type C again

Ini agenda nak menyesatkan umat Islam ni. tujuan letak rokok kat non-halal section untuk meng-konfius-kan orang Islam untuk makan babi dan minum arak
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Nice move. Let those penunggang agama rasa apa macam apartheid

Afterall rokok is truly to be banned.
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 6 2024, 07:44 PM)
I don’t know but I am sharing what I read on X here.  True or not, I am not an authority on these matters of Muslim halal or haram.  I find their arguments quite interesting and what I gathered is there are diff levels and definitions of β€˜haram-ness’.
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Netizen you can find many sembang babi terbang. That doesnt make them credible nor reliable

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Sep 6 2024, 08:02 PM)
Wow gila ka. Which idiot suggest this? Want to start ww3?

Those pious rempit sure meroyan. Imagine wear kopiah then go babi section buy rokok.
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Thats the whole point. Make munafik or lemah iman pipu feel ashame of their pigginess addiction and dp something about it.
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QUOTE(pokemon @ Sep 6 2024, 08:09 PM)
But muslim cashiers can touch rokok.
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Rokok is not haram to touch but haram to smoke.

Same babi is not haram to touch but need to purofy samak because najis.

Alcohol is haram to drink, sell, pass over, and and i forgpt got criteria one 7 type of haram methinks.
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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Sep 6 2024, 11:54 PM)
Rokok is not haram to touch but haram to smoke.

Same babi is not haram to touch but need to purofy samak because najis.

Alcohol is haram to drink, sell, pass over, and and i forgpt got criteria one 7 type of haram methinks.
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When the aircrews are serving the alcohol meaning is pass over?
Also when serving it the wine smell how?
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QUOTE(bereev @ Sep 6 2024, 06:47 PM)
Settle vape issue baru cakap la, vape is halal or not
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I thought anything that cause ketagihan is not

Include coffee and exercise next
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QUOTE(pokemon @ Sep 7 2024, 12:05 AM)
When the aircrews are serving the alcohol meaning is pass over?
Also when serving it the wine smell how?
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Smelling is not haram. What the crew were doing are haram. Same goes to the cashier at 7e counter.
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Lol.... Vape biler?
Asal diabetus ada..... Gula halal.
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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Sep 6 2024, 11:51 PM)
Netizen you can find many sembang babi terbang. That doesnt make them credible nor reliable
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Sharing what I read online. I do find what I read online are mind boggling too…
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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Sep 6 2024, 11:54 PM)
Rokok is not haram to touch but haram to smoke.

Same babi is not haram to touch but need to purofy samak because najis.

Alcohol is haram to drink, sell, pass over, and and i forgpt got criteria one 7 type of haram methinks.
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Yes, I read in X that there are diff levels or types of haram.
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i have a better idea. instead of sticking pic of awful looking lung or teeth might as well stick pic of babi. sure dowana smoke.
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QUOTE(kcal @ Sep 7 2024, 07:22 AM)
i have a better idea. instead of sticking pic of awful looking lung or teeth might as well stick pic of babi. sure dowana smoke.
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The reasons they place the pics of black lungs, foetuses, etc is to show the bad effect of smoking. Babi is not the results of smoking unless you meant ciggies will make the smoker look like, act and feels like Babi ….πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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QUOTE(kcal @ Sep 7 2024, 07:22 AM)
i have a better idea. instead of sticking pic of awful looking lung or teeth might as well stick pic of babi. sure dowana smoke.
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