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 It seems TM Unifi has finally implemented, transparent DNS proxy

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post Sep 8 2024, 03:01 PM


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Fyi, above reposts is the proper context of this discussion.
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Sep 8 2024, 01:09 PM)
Internet license actually sounds like a decent idea tho

12yr old+ have to be certified in some way after training to start using internet.
You can get prosecuted if you cought using internet without license 🤣
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Sep 8 2024, 03:58 PM)
Like having to use Digital ID to setup an account and use LYN forums so that anything you pen can be traced directly back to your real identity?  shocking.gif  biggrin.gif
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Just like CCP
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post Sep 9 2024, 07:51 AM

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The official party line (before u-turn): https://thesun.my/local-news/mcmc-assures-d...ites-NN12975293


MCMC assures DNS redirection will safeguard access to legitimate websites
07-09- 2024 10:02 PM

CYBERJAYA: The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) has assured that its directive to Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to redirect domain name system (DNS) traffic using third-party DNS servers back to their servers will not affect, disrupt, or block users from accessing legitimate websites.

Chief network security officer Datuk Dr. Mohamed Sulaiman Sultan Suhaibuddeen stated that the websites affected by this action are those that violate Malaysian law, thereby resulting in restrictions to prevent access for Malaysians.

“Websites that do not contain harmful content and have no issues can still be accessed as usual. The execution of this directive aims to protect users from accessing websites with dangerous online content.

“The blocking of illegal websites is not a new practice; it has been in place for many years. What is being done now is a strengthening of measures to prevent access to content that is unlawful,“ he said during a briefing on the DNS redirection here today.

For instance, Mohamed Sulaiman said MCMC has blocked 24,277 websites since 2018, for various violations such as online gambling (39 percent), pornography/obscene content (31 percent), copyright infringement (14 percent), and unlawful investments/scams (2 percent).

DNS is a system designed to turn website addresses into numeric IP addresses to locate websites on the internet. ISPs typically operate their own DNS servers, which can be configured to block access to certain websites or domains based on their content. This is a common method used to protect users from harmful content.

Commenting on perceptions and concerns regarding user privacy being compromised due to the implementation of the directive, Mohamed Sulaiman emphasised that MCMC does not have visibility over Internet browsing activities, nor will this action affect Internet speed.

“This redirection involves the respective ISPs; there is no connection to MCMC. For example, if someone is a customer of Telekom Malaysia ™, they will be redirected to TM. We are not involved, and we do not have any information.

“Regarding speed, DNS functions by converting website addresses into numerical IP addresses to find and connect to the websites being accessed. It is not related to Internet speed issues,“ he said.

The directive, which is set to take effect on Sept 30, has led some to view the given timeframe as too short. However, Mohamed Sulaiman noted that ISPs were informed of the matter last year.

“The ISPs were briefed at the end of last year, and they have also conducted pilot tests. We have given them until the end of this month to carry out the final implementation,“ he said.

Mohamed Sulaiman stated that although the measure is to take effect at the end of this month, improvements can still be made continuously, as the main objective is to protect the public, particularly vulnerable groups, from harmful online content.

When asked about the necessity of the DNS redirection directive, particularly in light of Malaysia’s upcoming enforcement of social media licensing in January next year, Mohamed Sulaiman explained that harmful and illegal content is present in various formats and platforms, with the majority found on social media.

“However, we also find such content on websites that need to be blocked to protect vulnerable groups,“ he added.

He clarified that the definition of harmful content is not solely determined by the MCMC but also depends on the relevant jurisdiction owners, such as copyright laws under the Ministry of Domestic Trade and Cost of Living.

“They will evaluate and have their own experts. When they find a website with illegal content, they will make the decision. For example, the Ministry of Health can examine the sale of unregistered or harmful drugs. Each entity has its authority and its own laws,“ he explained.
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post Sep 9 2024, 07:52 AM

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That piece of news is now history cool2.gif
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post Sep 9 2024, 07:54 AM

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Don't worry they will take out of the archives and reuse it the next time they try this

It is not if, but when
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post Sep 9 2024, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Sep 9 2024, 07:52 AM)
That piece of news is now history  cool2.gif
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That's what they would like to hear.
But I'll make sure to remember until next GE 😏
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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 9 2024, 07:51 AM)
The official party line (before u-turn): https://thesun.my/local-news/mcmc-assures-d...ites-NN12975293
MCMC assures DNS redirection will safeguard access to legitimate websites
    07-09- 2024 10:02 PM

CYBERJAYA: The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) has assured that its directive to Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to redirect domain name system (DNS) traffic using third-party DNS servers back to their servers will not affect, disrupt, or block users from accessing legitimate websites.

Chief network security officer Datuk Dr. Mohamed Sulaiman Sultan Suhaibuddeen stated that the websites affected by this action are those that violate Malaysian law, thereby resulting in restrictions to prevent access for Malaysians.

“Websites that do not contain harmful content and have no issues can still be accessed as usual. The execution of this directive aims to protect users from accessing websites with dangerous online content.

“The blocking of illegal websites is not a new practice; it has been in place for many years. What is being done now is a strengthening of measures to prevent access to content that is unlawful,“ he said during a briefing on the DNS redirection here today.

For instance, Mohamed Sulaiman said MCMC has blocked 24,277 websites since 2018, for various violations such as online gambling (39 percent), pornography/obscene content (31 percent), copyright infringement (14 percent), and unlawful investments/scams (2 percent).

DNS is a system designed to turn website addresses into numeric IP addresses to locate websites on the internet. ISPs typically operate their own DNS servers, which can be configured to block access to certain websites or domains based on their content. This is a common method used to protect users from harmful content.

Commenting on perceptions and concerns regarding user privacy being compromised due to the implementation of the directive, Mohamed Sulaiman emphasised that MCMC does not have visibility over Internet browsing activities, nor will this action affect Internet speed.

“This redirection involves the respective ISPs; there is no connection to MCMC. For example, if someone is a customer of Telekom Malaysia ™, they will be redirected to TM. We are not involved, and we do not have any information.

“Regarding speed, DNS functions by converting website addresses into numerical IP addresses to find and connect to the websites being accessed. It is not related to Internet speed issues,“ he said.

The directive, which is set to take effect on Sept 30, has led some to view the given timeframe as too short. However, Mohamed Sulaiman noted that ISPs were informed of the matter last year.

“The ISPs were briefed at the end of last year, and they have also conducted pilot tests. We have given them until the end of this month to carry out the final implementation,“ he said.

Mohamed Sulaiman stated that although the measure is to take effect at the end of this month, improvements can still be made continuously, as the main objective is to protect the public, particularly vulnerable groups, from harmful online content.

When asked about the necessity of the DNS redirection directive, particularly in light of Malaysia’s upcoming enforcement of social media licensing in January next year, Mohamed Sulaiman explained that harmful and illegal content is present in various formats and platforms, with the majority found on social media.

“However, we also find such content on websites that need to be blocked to protect vulnerable groups,“ he added.

He clarified that the definition of harmful content is not solely determined by the MCMC but also depends on the relevant jurisdiction owners, such as copyright laws under the Ministry of Domestic Trade and Cost of Living.

“They will evaluate and have their own experts. When they find a website with illegal content, they will make the decision. For example, the Ministry of Health can examine the sale of unregistered or harmful drugs. Each entity has its authority and its own laws,“ he explained.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Sep 9 2024, 03:06 PM)
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“Regarding speed, DNS functions by converting website addresses into numerical IP addresses to find and connect to the websites being accessed. It is not related to Internet speed issues,“ he said.


“Regarding travel speed, cumbersome highway toll gates functions by allowing drivers to pay for their journey properly. It is not related to travel speed issues,“ he said. - network grandpa doctor
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QUOTE(raynman @ Sep 9 2024, 07:52 AM)
That piece of news is now history  cool2.gif
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so, wat is status now? dns hijack or not?
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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Sep 12 2024, 12:50 AM)
so, wat is status now? dns hijack or not?
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If you mean websites blocked via DNS then yes. (Unifi when using Unifi's DNS & Digi)

DNS redirection, yes. (Digi)
DNS redirection, no. (Unifi)

I only checked for Unifi & Digi, that's what I have and only for unencrypted port 53 DNS.

This post has been edited by soonwai: Sep 12 2024, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Sep 12 2024, 12:58 AM)
If you mean websites blocked via DNS then yes. (Unifi when using Unifi's DNS & Digi)

DNS redirection, yes. (Digi)
DNS redirection, no. (Unifi)

I only checked for Unifi & Digi, that's what I have and only for unencrypted port 53 DNS.
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I just activate SecureDNS setting in my browser to point to CloudFlare DNS 1.1.1.1

This activates DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH) and it can bypass Unifi's banned websites block

I don't even need a VPN for this. Saves some bandwidth.
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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Sep 10 2024, 09:41 PM)
“Regarding speed, DNS functions by converting website addresses into numerical IP addresses to find and connect to the websites being accessed. It is not related to Internet speed issues,“ he said.
“Regarding travel speed, cumbersome highway toll gates functions by allowing drivers to pay for their journey properly. It is not related to travel speed issues,“ he said. - network grandpa doctor
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Maybe he got this from his thesis "Evaluation of virtual private network employing secure on demand IP based connection (SeDIC) / Mohamed Sulaiman Sultan Suhaibuddeen."

UITM student tolong korek and post here.

This post has been edited by beverlykho: Sep 12 2024, 07:10 AM
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Good news. It's officially off the table

Fahmi says DNS rerouting plan off the table, opts for more public engagement


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QUOTE(beverlykho @ Sep 12 2024, 07:06 AM)
Maybe he got this from his thesis "Evaluation of virtual private network employing secure on demand IP based connection (SeDIC) / Mohamed Sulaiman Sultan Suhaibuddeen."

UITM student tolong korek and post here.
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According to someone who has dealing with gomen in this area, the gomen real objective is not what everyone being told.

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Sep 12 2024, 08:36 AM)
According to someone who has dealing with gomen in this area, the gomen real objective is not what everyone being told.

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Those who know how internet works can smell the real reason from far away liao, no need to be told by gomen contractor or whosoever close to mcmc

This post has been edited by maxpudding: Sep 12 2024, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Sep 12 2024, 08:40 AM)
Those who know how internet works can smell the real reason from far away liao, no need to be told by gomen contractor or whosoever close to mcmc
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I think most ppl have lack of understanding how internet tech has been evolve over the time and most being confident into staying anonymous using specific method.

Unfortunately i'm 10++ years being late and this anonymous no longer valid in current time.
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QUOTE(isr25 @ Sep 12 2024, 07:47 AM)
Good news. It's officially off the table

Fahmi says DNS rerouting plan off the table, opts for more public engagement


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For now...

But the damage had been done.

At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised that those western IT company that initially promised to invest in our country are taking a step back and reconsidering their decision...
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QUOTE(zidane28 @ Sep 12 2024, 08:49 AM)
For now...

But the damage had been done.

At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised that those western IT company that initially promised to invest in our country are taking a step back and reconsidering their decision...
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thats the stupid part..
they should ask for public engagement before pulling this BS. lol

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