Hi Guys,


I'm seeking your advice on how to set up a Guarded Neighbourhood for an individual title taman. In my taman, we have more than 85% support for the Residents Association (persatuan), which is already registered. The next step is to get approval from the local council. I need some input on the Juruukur and all the steps involved. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks

How are you going to handle the remaining 15% ?

need to?

They won't be paying fyi ..... so good luck on that 😅

If guard only then easy but if gated then good luck

1. Well done on persatuan registration! Thats the first and crucial step.
2. Check with your local council on requirements on % for guardhouse and fencing. Different % for rfid and non rfid etc. Usually 75% to 80% for non rdid and 100% for rfid.
3. Follow local council guidelines. Completed applicwtion form, putting up banner to inform all residents etc
4. Local council may need bomba and polis to approve. MPS did.
5. Once thats all done, sit and wait for approval.
6. Approval usually for 2 years to be renewed. During these 2 years, need to apply TOL from land office (as guardhouse is occupying state land).
7. We are doing for D Laman Kundang. Approval letter nearly out. Praying hard and also for residents continous support to make it sustainable.

Never easy to deal with local councils. But its just another process. Everyone will be closer after the event. Have fun!

Thanks alot ill pm.. You need more info,

As my housing area is very small only 40 houses here. We did go to majlis got their check list.

Whats the diff on guard and gated in term of costing? The whole point of this is close the area and control who get in and out for safety reason.

Its stated minimum 85 percent... Well actually the balance 15 percent agree but have some concerns which i can we should. Be able to absorb this.

What is the contribution per household monthly and what is the fixed contribution ?

question that, who money for that pagar build up? how about guard house? include?

40 houses only also need to set up G&G? Assuming one house RM100, it will only be RM4k.

Not even enough to cover one security guard.

topkek

i have seen those persatuan penduduk so semangat setting this thing up

day by day the monies collected getting lesser and lesser

and the end result?

barrigate removed, guard thrown away

back to square one

With a 4k sal, many like to be a security guard.

4k is not even enough if you are going through a security company.

Who's going to manage the guard if you are not hiring it through an agency?

Cannot cover 1 security guard salary and cannot cover security guards salary are two different examples.

2k guard and 2k co = 4k.

There are few taman that have only a security guard at night due to funding issue.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Aug 27 2024, 03:06 PM

if no DMC, hard to enforce

If there is a DMC, can actions be taken towards residents who signed but didn't pay?

Stay condo easier 😅

is legally binding

both have challenges

Around 4k in $$ seriously not enough...

Try to get more...

And from past trends in other old neighborhood housing that this..

The collection somehow would reduce downtrend after few years.... Not sustainable....

Suggest you also look for security company for quotation first before you apply from town council. Find out what is the monthly security fees, plus the cost to set up the fencing, guard post, and CCTV, and wiring. Then you will know roughly how much need to be beared by 40 units. If not everyone willing to pay, then better don't set up, just enhanced your own unit's with motion CCTV and alarm system, plus motion sensor lights.


The initial cost to set up the perimeter fencing, guard post, and CCTV also will cost a lot, all need to be spread among the 40 units, plus you only have 85% who support this.
In short, you need to find out whether the security system can be maintained with 4k a month?

And outside got many funny security companies, give promise up to sky height but hire part timer sit there only. So would you and your committee members be able to monitor their performance day and night at the expense of own time? And you still need to have own member willing to do account every mth, all these based on self initiative and volunteers basis, although got very tiny salary which will be recorded in yearly audited account also

Last time my old house got abt 200 units, committee manage to collect RM12k-15k a month, and 90% spent for security fees based on audited account present in annual meeting. But my committee really work hard to maintain the security system, some time 12am went to spot check the guard post, whenever they found out the security firm is poor in service, they will just discontinue it, I sincerely appreciate for their hard work

This post has been edited by Jingle91: Aug 28 2024, 08:40 AM

Fees and structure in planning... Im trying to see if application is possible first hence im asking anyone with experience on this matter.

Well once if application is possible then an upfront cost and sponsorship will be there for those heavy cost item.... Now i need advise on application only not budgetary stuff.

This post has been edited by vin6: Aug 28 2024, 10:22 AM

Great advise, yes will consider this. For now we might see the feasibility to spend money for this application. As sustainability can be managed.

They need to come down from the car & open the balang themselves!