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post Aug 24 2024, 06:00 AM, updated 2y ago

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Everywhere in the world Tier 1 city like Singapore or KL are magnet for the talented, the rich, the smart and young ones to move to

But I want to ask those who stay in Penang, JB and Melaka alike…why do you stay in these lower Tiered 2 or 3 cities?

Is it because you are poor, not so smart, too old and lazy to compete?
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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 24 2024, 06:00 AM)
Everywhere in the world Tier 1 city like Singapore or KL are magnet for the talented, the rich, the smart and young ones to move to

But I want to ask those who stay in Penang, JB and Melaka alike…why do you stay in these lower Tiered 2 or 3 cities?

Is it because you are poor, not so smart, too old and lazy to compete?
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How do you rate Tier 1,2,3 etc?

JB and Georgetown can consider Tier 1 from their economy, living standard and population.
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There aren't that many cities in Malaysia.

So tier 1 according to you is just kl and pj. Others is tier 2 already lol?

Penang and jb cost of living also similar to tier1
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Job opportunity and demographic la.

Engineering electronic jobs where to find in KL
Likewise finance job where to find in Penang


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QUOTE(y500 @ Aug 24 2024, 06:04 AM)
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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 24 2024, 06:00 AM)
Everywhere in the world Tier 1 city like Singapore or KL are magnet for the talented, the rich, the smart and young ones to move to

But I want to ask those who stay in Penang, JB and Melaka alike…why do you stay in these lower Tiered 2 or 3 cities?

Is it because you are poor, not so smart, too old and lazy to compete?
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Sohai TS uses sohai CCP "tier base city ranking" standard to categorise Malaysia cities doh.gif
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Everywhere in the world, higher tier people spent their time on working towards improving their lives or of others by creating and doing something useful.

Why do you spent so much time here?
Is it because you are poor, not so smart, too old and lazy to compete?
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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 24 2024, 06:00 AM)
Everywhere in the world Tier 1 city like Singapore or KL are magnet for the talented, the rich, the smart and young ones to move to

But I want to ask those who stay in Penang, JB and Melaka alike…why do you stay in these lower Tiered 2 or 3 cities?

Is it because you are poor, not so smart, too old and lazy to compete?
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Tier 2 city - Kuching
WFH - Digital media for corporate and government

Less competition, easy to monopolize market
Easy to build connection and reputation with corporate clients
I employ freelancer/part timer as my staff and as per job basis.
Not much choice in talent, they can easily be trained,
they can be reliable most of the time, low pay (300-1000/day), high return (10-80k per job),
Once in a while I fly to KL for work, 2-3 times a year at least

Affordable landed property (i got the land by inheritance, build my own house), low cukai pintu
7 airconds, 1 deep freezer. All utility barely over RM500-800/month.
No Astro/Streaming. Internet 300MB most of the time

My house 6 rooms, 3 bathroom, dry and wet kitchen with pantry room,
2 living rooms (on both floors) + 1 small TV area, 1 large dining area

3 cars parking area + no gate, I ride kapcai most of the time for errands.
barely spend RM100-150/month for fuel for myself. RM50 (can last me almost 2 weeks)
Outstation is RM100 per round trip.

kampung life 16 km from city center.
Only 1 artery road is jammed during morning rush hour
everything I need is within 5 minutes drive except counter service banking and post office.

Beach is like 10 minutes away, multiple national parks to hike and climb is 15-30 minutes drive.
airport 30 minutes drive, can fly to SG/Jakarta direct cheaply.

Got monkeys, crocodile, snakes, sand flies and lizards everywhere.
Few times catch 2-3 meter croc in monsoon drain, one kid died eaten by one a few months ago
Not much mosquitos, flies or ants.

Little to no crime, most common is house break in/theft.
Got police patrol sometimes.
Got one rare case murder in my kampung in the past 6 years,
drug addict/mentally unstable killed his grandma with knife.
A lot of kids uses meth/ketamine as recreational but the numbers are too low to even notice.

When I get bored - aka no work in progress
I troll kopitiam for entertainment.
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post Aug 24 2024, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ Aug 24 2024, 06:55 AM)
Tier 2 city - Kuching
WFH - Digital media for corporate and government

Less competition, easy to monopolize market
Easy to build connection and reputation with corporate clients
I employ freelancer/part timer as my staff and as per job basis.
Not much choice in talent, they can easily be trained,
they can be reliable most of the time, low pay (300-1000/day), high return (10-80k per job),
Once in a while I fly to KL for work, 2-3 times a year at least

Affordable landed property (i got the land by inheritance, build my own house), low cukai pintu
7 airconds, 1 deep freezer. All utility barely over RM500-800/month.
No Astro/Streaming. Internet 300MB most of the time

My house 6 rooms, 3 bathroom, dry and wet kitchen with pantry room,
2 living rooms (on both floors) + 1 small TV area, 1 large dining area

3 cars parking area + no gate, I ride kapcai most of the time for errands.
barely spend RM100-150/month for fuel for myself. RM50 (can last me almost 2 weeks)
Outstation is RM100 per round trip.

kampung life 16 km from city center.
Only 1 artery road is jammed during morning rush hour
everything I need is within 5 minutes drive except counter service banking and post office.

Beach is like 10 minutes away, multiple national parks to hike and climb is 15-30 minutes drive.
airport 30 minutes drive, can fly to SG/Jakarta direct cheaply.

Got monkeys, crocodile, snakes, sand flies and lizards everywhere.
Few times catch 2-3 meter croc in monsoon drain, one kid died eaten by one a few months ago
Not much mosquitos, flies or ants.

Little to no crime, most common is house break in/theft.
Got police patrol sometimes.
Got one rare case murder in my kampung in the past 6 years,
drug addict/mentally unstable killed his grandma with knife.
A lot of kids uses meth/ketamine as recreational but the numbers are too low to even notice.

When I get bored - aka no work in progress
I troll kopitiam for entertainment.
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Just clap for you for writing so long to reply terol tered rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Aug 24 2024, 07:01 AM)
Just clap for you for writing so long to reply terol tered rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 24 2024, 06:00 AM)
Is it because you are poor, not so smart, too old and lazy to compete?
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Yes.
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Penang stay in condo below got mall and starbucki, no need to stay in kl for what? so noisy and dangerous

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 24 2024, 06:12 AM)
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then don come KL PJ...
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So you're saying ppl who went to KL from tier I dunno 24 cities like Kota Bharu or Kangar made the right decision?
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 24 2024, 06:28 AM)
How do you rate Tier 1,2,3 etc?

JB and Georgetown can consider Tier 1 from their economy, living standard and population.
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Own definition actually. Above million population = Tier 1
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 24 2024, 06:12 AM)
Please don go to Penang!
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Why you chose Penang?
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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ Aug 24 2024, 06:55 AM)
Tier 2 city - Kuching
WFH - Digital media for corporate and government

Less competition, easy to monopolize market
Easy to build connection and reputation with corporate clients
I employ freelancer/part timer as my staff and as per job basis.
Not much choice in talent, they can easily be trained,
they can be reliable most of the time, low pay (300-1000/day), high return (10-80k per job),
Once in a while I fly to KL for work, 2-3 times a year at least

Affordable landed property (i got the land by inheritance, build my own house), low cukai pintu
7 airconds, 1 deep freezer. All utility barely over RM500-800/month.
No Astro/Streaming. Internet 300MB most of the time

My house 6 rooms, 3 bathroom, dry and wet kitchen with pantry room,
2 living rooms (on both floors) + 1 small TV area, 1 large dining area

3 cars parking area + no gate, I ride kapcai most of the time for errands.
barely spend RM100-150/month for fuel for myself. RM50 (can last me almost 2 weeks)
Outstation is RM100 per round trip.

kampung life 16 km from city center.
Only 1 artery road is jammed during morning rush hour
everything I need is within 5 minutes drive except counter service banking and post office.

Beach is like 10 minutes away, multiple national parks to hike and climb is 15-30 minutes drive.
airport 30 minutes drive, can fly to SG/Jakarta direct cheaply.

Got monkeys, crocodile, snakes, sand flies and lizards everywhere.
Few times catch 2-3 meter croc in monsoon drain, one kid died eaten by one a few months ago
Not much mosquitos, flies or ants.

Little to no crime, most common is house break in/theft.
Got police patrol sometimes.
Got one rare case murder in my kampung in the past 6 years,
drug addict/mentally unstable killed his grandma with knife.
A lot of kids uses meth/ketamine as recreational but the numbers are too low to even notice.

When I get bored - aka no work in progress
I troll kopitiam for entertainment.
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I like Kuching also. Laid back compared to other cities.
You are a successful entrepreneur

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ppl go jb to work in sg

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tier 1 if u wanna have same lifestyle as JB u need to spend few millions to stay in landed enclave


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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 24 2024, 01:08 PM)
Own definition actually. Above million population = Tier 1
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Klang woso above million population! Means tier 1 kaaa
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QUOTE(Dothan @ Aug 24 2024, 06:45 AM)
Sohai TS uses sohai CCP "tier base city ranking" standard to categorise Malaysia cities  doh.gif
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India also gave Tier to their cities
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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 24 2024, 12:08 PM)
Own definition actually. Above million population = Tier 1
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fuh.. based on your definition that Dharavi = Tier 1.. thumbsup.gif
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Because KL is all stupid people. Brilliant people like engineer go to Penang
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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 24 2024, 12:11 PM)
Why you chose Penang?
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Obviously is because KL is for stupid people. You can know by checking all engineering company is in Penang.
They cannot find good engineer in KL so have the build engineering company in Penang
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i live in kampung. no tier whatsoever biggrin.gif

maybe just me, but I think some people really overlook how living by farming can make better money than in the office. not to mention without traffic jam, no office politics. in the end of the day i feel more PUAS and contented than typical urban life.

even if you want to make money online, you can still get connected to unifi, tho not all kampung have that luxury, so starlink is your last resort.
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QUOTE(letitsnow @ Aug 24 2024, 01:28 PM)
i live in kampung. no tier whatsoever  biggrin.gif

maybe just me, but I think some people really overlook how living by farming can make better money than in the office. not to mention without traffic jam, no office politics. in the end of the day i feel more PUAS and contented than typical urban life.

even if you want to make money online, you can still get connected to unifi, tho not all kampung have that luxury, so starlink is your last resort.
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You use agritech in your farming? Or just traditional labour intensive work? City folks won’t want to sweat under hot sun
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i use tech, develop them and use it in-house.

agri not necessarily under hot sun. some plants grow under 50% shade like orchids or mushrooms, should be bearable.

or you can start early like 7am and work until 10am, then continue in late afternoon. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 24 2024, 06:00 AM)
Everywhere in the world Tier 1 city like Singapore or KL are magnet for the talented, the rich, the smart and young ones to move to

But I want to ask those who stay in Penang, JB and Melaka alike…why do you stay in these lower Tiered 2 or 3 cities?

Is it because you are poor, not so smart, too old and lazy to compete?
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Kl tier 1 lololo
I think penang people richer than kl condofags
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The tier is for stress level. #1 being highest
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Sohai TS uses sohai CCP "tier base city ranking" standard to categorise Malaysia cities  doh.gif
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China ppl said KL is like their tier 3 city only, macam fujian haha
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Errm, ayam is from your so-called tier2/3 states. Why i continue living here?
- no seasonal flood
- no wasting the most precious time in the world on the road (time)
- lower cost of living but earning tier 1 state salary
- able to own lands for farming/agriculture as lands are cheap here

Imagine waking up early in the morning and step out of the house with fresh cool breeze air, birds chirping, chicken running around and look around the trees/plants in your half acre house compound. Maybe because ayam like nature, so ayam love this kind of thing alot.
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QUOTE(Ayer @ Aug 24 2024, 09:55 PM)
The tier is for stress level. #1 being highest
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Like that penang tier 1 already. If my company ask me go office 5 days a week I will drive off the bridge
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QUOTE(delphine.88 @ Aug 24 2024, 10:00 PM)
China ppl said KL is like their tier 3 city only, macam fujian haha
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Which China people say this? I want to visit his city to experience
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actually with so many sinkholes appearing in KL, soon it will be tier 2 or 3
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QUOTE(tkn0811 @ Aug 24 2024, 09:03 AM)
then don come KL PJ...
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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 24 2024, 12:08 PM)
Own definition actually. Above million population = Tier 1
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Aug 24 2024, 01:13 PM)
Because KL is all stupid people. Brilliant people like engineer go to Penang
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QUOTE(delphine.88 @ Aug 24 2024, 10:00 PM)
China ppl said KL is like their tier 3 city only, macam fujian haha
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sori ya kl is big and dirty. Pudu wai sek kai , chee cheong kai and etc are really dirty, expensive, lousy food and messy full of poor people and rats. Shoplots are not well maintained and roads are very messy and confusing.

even the surrounding area of kl also are dirty.

pg and jb are so much a better place . clean, progressive and positive.

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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Aug 24 2024, 10:02 PM)
Like that penang tier 1 already. If my company ask me go office 5 days a week I will drive off the bridge
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Penang bridge jam is not worse than KL peak hour jam.
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KL is tier 1 city? Ha...ha.... hahhahahahha
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Aug 24 2024, 10:14 PM)
KL is tier 1 city? Ha...ha.... hahhahahahha
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ya even kuching and miri are a much cleaner city.


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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Aug 24 2024, 12:22 PM)
ppl go jb to work in sg

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tier 1 if u wanna have same  lifestyle as JB u need to spend few millions to stay in landed enclave
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Everyday there are 400,000 people from Tier 3 city crossing into Tier 1 city to work everyday. Where else in the world can we find such unique city arrangement?

Many like to compare SG - JB with HK - Shenzhen. However both HK and Shenzhen both already Tier 1
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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Aug 24 2024, 10:08 PM)
sori ya kl is big and dirty. Pudu wai sek kai , chee cheong kai and etc are really dirty, expensive, lousy food and messy full of poor people and rats. Shoplots are not well maintained and roads are very messy and confusing.

even the surrounding area of kl also are dirty.

pg and jb are so much a better place . clean, progressive and positive.
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Then why most outstation ppl wanna come KL and find work and do business ?
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Then why most outstation ppl wanna come KL and find work and do business ?
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it a scam place. chicken rice rm 14. go wai sek kai chicken rice rm10. and etc. wai sek kai is the worst shit place ever. in pg famous chicken rice is only rm6. the portion is slightly smaller than kl . slightly.

that day i went to wai sek kai eat curry chee cheong fun. mcb the yong tau fu is like made 3 days ago and as hard as cardboard.

in term of cleanliness, wai sek kai and pudu are similar to philipines shit holes lol.

food is lousy . food like claypot chicken rice is overated. notice in other states, they are not famous for claypot chicken rice because its cheap food.

kl ppl also like eating yong tau fu . another cheap food. U come to pg , u see ppl eating yong tau fu often ? ppl eat real meat and seafood . not those process food.

kl ppl eat tilapia, catfish and etc. basically all the dirt fishes lol.

even kl suburbs is a shit place. ampang, cheras ,sentul, wangsa maju and etc are so old and unkept. Together withthe old shoplots, lrt , mrt and overhead bridge, it makes the city so messy and unorganised.

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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 24 2024, 10:07 PM)
Which China people say this? I want to visit his city to experience
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not her but a lot of them think KL is like fujian only



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it a scam place. chicken rice rm 14. go wai sek kai chicken rice rm10. and etc. wai sek kai is the worst shit place ever. in pg famous chicken rice is only rm6. the portion is slightly smaller than kl . slightly.

that day i went to wai sek kai eat curry chee cheong fun. mcb the yong tau fu is like made 3 days ago and as hard as cardboard.

in term of cleanliness, wai sek kai and pudu are similar to philipines shit holes lol.

food is lousy . food like claypot chicken rice is overated. notice in other states, they are not famous for claypot chicken rice because its cheap food.

kl ppl also like eating yong tau fu . another cheap food. U come to pg , u see ppl eating yong tau fu often ? ppl eat real meat and seafood . not those process food.

kl ppl eat tilapia, catfish and etc. basically all the dirt fishes lol.

even kl suburbs is a shit place. ampang, cheras ,sentul, wangsa maju and etc are so old and unkept. Together withthe old shoplots,  lrt , mrt and overhead bridge, it makes the city so messy and unorganised.
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KL has the best opportunity for career development for most industries in Msia period thats why ppl are flocking here.

Side note, no money then eat talapia lo...to cater to B40 ppl mah ahahahah
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QUOTE(cms @ Aug 24 2024, 10:57 PM)
KL has the best opportunity for career development for most industries in Msia period thats why ppl are flocking here.

Side note, no money then eat talapia lo...to cater to B40 ppl mah ahahahah
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the only reason ppl come to kl to work is because all the hq is situated in kl. that is all.

if u compare with no. of tech multinationals, pg pijak u into oblivion.

THe standard of living in kl is low compared to jb and pg.

food quality is low.

cost is living is high. Economy rice is expensive.

even eating seafood is a luxury in kl whereas its common food in jb, sabah, sarawak and pg.

Another thing kl wins is you guys have all the boring and big malls haha.

shame on u kl kaki, so called capital but lose out so much to other smaller states with less funding and opportunity.

This post has been edited by tankerbell12345: Aug 24 2024, 11:13 PM
abelyap
post Aug 24 2024, 11:13 PM

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Simple.

KL n Penang r crowded and having bad traffic jam
JB hv better living environment from traffic, landed house and greenery.

And JB potential is way greater since it proximity to SG
xpole
post Aug 24 2024, 11:20 PM

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If I got a job in another states other than Penang or JB, I will definitely move.

I started to feel really hate living in Klang Valley.

Shitty foods, cramped and crowded.

Nothing interesting living in KL and Selangor.

iGamer
post Aug 24 2024, 11:21 PM

Toxic ktards probably losers irl
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post Aug 25 2024, 12:14 AM

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Melaka don't have 8 meter sinkhole.
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post Aug 25 2024, 01:10 AM

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Melaka is nice tho
zerorating
post Aug 25 2024, 03:13 AM

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kl hectic like shit. not for me.
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post Aug 25 2024, 03:28 AM

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Kl is for work kuli

Every weekday 6am alr long que jam

After work 8pm still jam



GHBZDK
post Aug 25 2024, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Xflkekw @ Aug 24 2024, 10:10 PM)
Penang bridge jam is not worse than KL peak hour jam.
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Kl has mrt and lrt…when I used to work there I take train only….those that chose to work not close to station…can consider drive to penang and drive off the bridge also

This post has been edited by GHBZDK: Aug 25 2024, 08:42 AM
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post Aug 25 2024, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ Aug 24 2024, 07:03 AM)
read my last sentence
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