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post Aug 16 2024, 12:37 AM, updated 2y ago

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I plan to purchase second car. For my wife, fetch my kid from school, buying groceries, buying food and reliable when balik kampung.

Looking for 10k - 20k range.

Any car for suggestion and recommendation website to purchase.

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post Aug 16 2024, 12:39 AM

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post Aug 16 2024, 03:51 AM

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Axia E new car at 22k
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post Aug 16 2024, 05:53 AM

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What is your first car?
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QUOTE(muzhafarazhar @ Aug 16 2024, 12:37 AM)
I plan to purchase second car. For my wife, fetch my kid from school, buying groceries, buying food and reliable when balik kampung.

Looking for 10k - 20k range.

Any car for suggestion and recommendation website to purchase.

Thanks everyone. notworthy.gif
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How far is your kampung ? If that is far better just get a new car.
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post Aug 16 2024, 09:09 AM

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New AXIA. less headache.
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post Aug 16 2024, 09:42 AM

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Personally get a good condition Kelisa or Kenari, parts are cheap and easy to be fix by any mechanic. Axia lately my mechanic got few come back for major service, the parts are more expensive than Kelisa/Kenari. Especially engine if spoilt, 2nd hand use half-cut near to 5k just the Axia 1.0 engine.

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post Aug 16 2024, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Aug 16 2024, 08:52 AM)
How far is your kampung ?  If that is far better just get a new car.
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My kampung at Ipoh
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Aug 16 2024, 09:09 AM)
New AXIA. less headache.
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I thinking of that as well. But if perodua axia rahmah is it reliable? except its manual transmission.
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post Aug 16 2024, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 16 2024, 09:42 AM)
Personally get a good condition Kelisa or Kenari, parts are cheap and easy to be fix by any mechanic. Axia lately my mechanic got few come back for major service, the parts are more expensive than Kelisa/Kenari. Especially engine if spoilt, 2nd hand use half-cut near to 5k just the Axia 1.0 engine.
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But worried since kelisa consider as old car.might have wear and tear.
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post Aug 16 2024, 08:41 PM

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post Aug 16 2024, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 16 2024, 12:39 AM)
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I have past experience with proton.

My first car was Proton Gen 2 in year 2007. its reliable earlier than start engine jerking, underpower and i kena major overhaul. Not so good experience.
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QUOTE(croydon @ Aug 16 2024, 11:34 AM)
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not a bad choice but boring with the design exterior and interior
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 16 2024, 09:42 AM)
Personally get a good condition Kelisa or Kenari, parts are cheap and easy to be fix by any mechanic. Axia lately my mechanic got few come back for major service, the parts are more expensive than Kelisa/Kenari. Especially engine if spoilt, 2nd hand use half-cut near to 5k just the Axia 1.0 engine.
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sure onot... getting gud axia is ady tough.. finding gud kelisa/kenari definitely much harder..
any engine spoilt is confirm few k ady.. no matter what car..
just a matter of how one treat their car..

am using axia since 2015 and I think many more ppl using much longer than that so far no engine issue..
just make sure service on time and use proper engine oil lor... just like any other car..

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Do you need this car immediately?

If can delay, then wait until the launch of EV from both P1 and P2. Then you will have a field day choosing lower priced pre-loved cars, I think.

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post Aug 16 2024, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 16 2024, 09:06 PM)
sure onot... getting gud axia is ady tough.. finding gud kelisa/kenari definitely much harder..
any engine spoilt is confirm few k ady.. no matter what car..
just a matter of how one treat their car..

am using axia since 2015 and I think many more ppl using much longer than that so far no engine issue..
just make sure service on time and use proper engine oil lor... just like any other car..
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I personally think, if you can maintain your car service on time, its worth every single cent. If aint broken dont fixed it.Keeping it under good condition also one of the factor you need to thinks as well considering that parts and labour price. Which it is, based on my understading.
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post Aug 17 2024, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(muzhafarazhar @ Aug 16 2024, 08:44 PM)
I have past experience with proton.

My first car was Proton Gen 2 in year 2007. its reliable earlier than start engine jerking, underpower and i kena major overhaul. Not so good experience.
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Oh Gen2, I'm still driving now, 2008 Campro engine before the CPS version.
How come yours so many problem? Is it very high mileage already?
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With that budget, maybe can get second axia or myvi.

I would not get second saga flx like other forumer suggested
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post Aug 17 2024, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(croydon @ Aug 16 2024, 11:34 AM)
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Ertiga with price tag below RM20K... you sure you want to buy that car?
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QUOTE(muzhafarazhar @ Aug 16 2024, 08:41 PM)
Nissan Almera
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It's a reliable car and nothing much to go wrong.
I suggest you give this to your wife and you get something more adventurous
Consider suv, alza
Or even save up for a proton or perodua ev
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Aug 16 2024, 11:44 PM)
Do you need this car immediately?

If can delay, then wait until the launch of EV from both P1 and P2. Then you will have a field day choosing lower priced pre-loved cars, I think.
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agak bila which months
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post Aug 18 2024, 04:21 PM

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Used myvi, last gen also ok, without cvt gb. FC still decent for all P2 car. Last time I bought used Iriz 1.6 for work drive to KL, its FC average is higher than my Accord 2.4, average 10.5 - 11km/l

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20k car for balik kampung
Make sure your kampung is not too far
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post Aug 19 2024, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 16 2024, 10:06 PM)
sure onot... getting gud axia is ady tough.. finding gud kelisa/kenari definitely much harder..
any engine spoilt is confirm few k ady.. no matter what car..
just a matter of how one treat their car..

am using axia since 2015 and I think many more ppl using much longer than that so far no engine issue..
just make sure service on time and use proper engine oil lor... just like any other car..
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Bro, you haven kena major parts u never know.

The best is ask those mechanic which fix Perodua cars ask them which car is the best to own, easy to maintain and cheap. I believe 10/10 will tell you the best from Perodua models is Kelisa/Kenari, if not why 2nd value still linger around 10k for good condition?
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 17 2024, 12:07 PM)
It's a reliable car and nothing much to go wrong.
I suggest you give this to your wife and you get something more adventurous
Consider suv, alza
Or even save up for a proton or perodua ev
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Which Almera? The older one is a nightmare to maintain when things start to go wrong.
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post Aug 21 2024, 10:09 AM

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20k budget you can look at KIA.
The RIO is a nice modern looking hatchback, the Cerato is the big brother in a Sedan, the Forte is older but cheaper.
Maintenance is like any Jap cars and OEM parts are readily available.
It may not be as economical as an AXIA, but definitely better built.
Stay away from SUV because is high maintenance, stay away from VW POLO sedan (very cheap) same reason.
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post Aug 21 2024, 10:16 AM

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lol, how u know I haven kene major parts?
what makes u think I don't have other cars?
and u think I don't have own Perodua or outside mechanic to consult after all this while?

Seriously, the statement is ridiculous.. how can one get good condition Kelisa/Kenari after so many years.. it is bound to wear & tear..

Did u go into Kenari or Kelisa group in LYN? Did u know how some ppl are scratching their heads thinking of problems that are surfacing now?

Like I mentioned, it doesn't matter what car u drive as long u maintain it properly, any car can be a good car.

If u think 10k is an indication of the best car quality from Perodua then by all means pls go ahead..


QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 19 2024, 08:36 AM)
Bro, you haven kena major parts u never know.

The best is ask those mechanic which fix Perodua cars ask them which car is the best to own, easy to maintain and cheap. I believe 10/10 will tell you the best from Perodua models is Kelisa/Kenari, if not why 2nd value still linger around 10k for good condition?
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post Aug 21 2024, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 21 2024, 11:16 AM)
lol, how u know I haven kene major parts?
what makes u think I don't have other cars?
and u think I don't have own Perodua or outside mechanic to consult after all this while?

Seriously, the statement is ridiculous.. how can one get good condition Kelisa/Kenari after so many years.. it is bound to wear & tear..

Did u go into Kenari or Kelisa group in LYN? Did u know how some ppl are scratching their heads thinking of problems that are surfacing now?

Like I mentioned, it doesn't matter what car u drive as long u maintain it properly, any car can be a good car.

If u think 10k is an indication of the best car quality from Perodua then by all means pls go ahead..
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Just simple car knowledge - Axia engine block & Kelisa engine block

Axia newer engine use full aluminum
Kelisa still using cast iron engine block

When both overheat, which 1 will survive and able to rework back easily. Cast iron engine been proven to last longer and easier to fix compare to aluminum block, the only good thing aluminum block is light weight for better fuel economy but the material is more fragile and easy to wrap when overheat. Better widen your friends range and mix with mechanic and ask them personally.

Besides that, Daihatsu L7/L9 (L7 Mira Cuore = Kelisa, L9 Move = Kenari) a lot of half-cuts in market and cheap replacement can be found in shopee lazada. If you never see overall support from spare part, to engine realibility, aftermarket spare part support, Kelisa/Kenari until today still on top of 2nd market. In regards of wear & tear, the cost of replacing those items are not expensive and easy to get, thus why i always propose Kelisa/Kenari at first. Axia only when you got extra money to get the top AV model with ASA, if not those basic model rather just get Kelisa/Kenari.

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 21 2024, 02:04 PM)
Just simple car knowledge - Axia engine block & Kelisa engine block

Axia newer engine use full aluminum
Kelisa still using cast iron engine block

When both overheat, which 1 will survive and able to rework back easily. Cast iron engine been proven to last longer and easier to fix compare to aluminum block, the only good thing aluminum block is light weight for better fuel economy but the material is more fragile and easy to wrap when overheat. Better widen your friends range and mix with mechanic and ask them personally.

Besides that, Daihatsu L7/L9 (L7 Mira Cuore = Kelisa, L9 Move = Kenari) a lot of half-cuts in market and cheap replacement can be found in shopee lazada. If you never see overall support from spare part, to engine realibility, aftermarket spare part support, Kelisa/Kenari until today still on top of 2nd market. In regards of wear & tear, the cost of replacing those items are not expensive and easy to get, thus why i always propose Kelisa/Kenari at first. Axia only when you got extra money to get the top AV model with ASA, if not those basic model rather just get Kelisa/Kenari.
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On a same token how about Iriz for a consideration?
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or brand new axia e would be the best choice
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QUOTE(Maknusia @ Aug 21 2024, 03:25 PM)
On a same token how about Iriz for a consideration?
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Personally, most newer proton cars after the mitsubishi wira era most mechanic wont recommend as aftermarket spare part is more less choice (you can only buy new and dont have Japanese halfcut to buy cheap replacment)
The only Proton car i heard less issue when start using Campro engine is the 1st gen Persona with the 1.6 (Aluminum intake) manual or 4-speed auto. That car really built to last and even less issue compare to Gen.2/Waja at that time. The rest after that use CVT really gone down further.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 22 2024, 09:56 AM)
Personally, most newer proton cars after the mitsubishi wira era most mechanic wont recommend as aftermarket spare part is more less choice (you can only buy new and dont have Japanese halfcut to buy cheap replacment)
The only Proton car i heard less issue when start using Campro engine is the 1st gen Persona with the 1.6 (Aluminum intake) manual or 4-speed auto. That car really built to last and even less issue compare to Gen.2/Waja at that time. The rest after that use CVT really gone down further.
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Thanks for the advise, bang! Didnt realize Iriz may have used part issues. But I do see alot of them on the road, hence was curious.
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QUOTE(Maknusia @ Aug 23 2024, 10:52 AM)
Thanks for the advise, bang! Didnt realize Iriz may have used part issues. But I do see alot of them on the road, hence was curious.
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Tbf no part issues. Just call nearby SC, if luck, parts already at the sc and can straight come, else make booking for part, 1-2 weeks parts ready. I changed my broken iriz steering garnish black plastic part at SC cz outside, seller sold at higher price after installation
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 23 2024, 11:38 AM)
Tbf no part issues. Just call nearby SC, if luck, parts already at the sc and can straight come, else make booking for part, 1-2 weeks parts ready. I changed my broken iriz steering garnish black plastic part at SC cz outside, seller sold at higher price after installation
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worth to wait .. sometimes outside shop will say SC more expensive but the reality they want to cut your throat with higher price

 

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