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TSAcap1986
post Aug 15 2024, 03:04 PM, updated 2y ago

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Hi all

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Ryzen 7800x3d + be quiet pure rock 2 fx black coz
Mobo msi b650
Ram 16gbx2 vengeance ddr5
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Asus dual rtx 4070
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Psu Silverstone 650 80plus gold ckup ke?

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post Aug 15 2024, 03:15 PM

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CPU below rated 120w
GPU below rated 250w
Yes sangat sufficient
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QUOTE(zuozi @ Aug 15 2024, 03:15 PM)
CPU below rated 120w
GPU below rated 250w
Yes sangat sufficient
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Td tny ramai ade yg tak bole ada yg kata bole... Actually ada rtx 3070... Nk jual 3070 br upgrade or gne je rtx3070... Masih relevan 3k series utk new game. And sy bukan jenis hardcore gamers men pn weekend je... Tue dota warhammer starcraft 1 n 2...n in coming space marines ne claim dr processor tue...
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 15 2024, 03:26 PM)
Td tny ramai ade yg tak bole ada yg kata bole... Actually ada rtx 3070... Nk jual 3070 br upgrade or gne je rtx3070... Masih relevan 3k series utk new game. And sy bukan jenis hardcore gamers men pn weekend je... Tue dota warhammer starcraft 1 n 2...n in coming space marines ne claim dr processor tue...
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Semua bahasa i tak sangat bagus jadi i cuba answer your question in rojak style 😂

CPU tu tak sampai 100w , GPU tu sama juga tak sampai 220w , kalau tak silap 3070 pun bahawa rated 250w juga, motherboard pun bahawa rated 100w , semua rojak sekali peak pun 400w jer , hdd, sdd, kipas etc pakai sikit usage sahaja max 100w pun masih ada 150w headroom for wear and tear efficiency degraded situation in future

Maaf uncle ya uncle darjah enam pun tak habis dah cuba sebaik mungkin saya untuk jawab kamu 😂😂
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 15 2024, 03:26 PM)
Td tny ramai ade yg tak bole ada yg kata bole... Actually ada rtx 3070... Nk jual 3070 br upgrade or gne je rtx3070... Masih relevan 3k series utk new game. And sy bukan jenis hardcore gamers men pn weekend je... Tue dota warhammer starcraft 1 n 2...n in coming space marines ne claim dr processor tue...
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Kalau pakai 3070 ok je, 4070 memang boleh tu. wink.gif

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Jangan takut, PSU 600W yang bagus pun jadi.

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QUOTE(zuozi @ Aug 15 2024, 03:44 PM)
Semua bahasa i tak sangat bagus jadi i cuba answer your question in rojak style 😂

CPU tu tak sampai 100w , GPU tu sama juga tak sampai 220w ,  kalau tak silap 3070 pun bahawa rated 250w juga, motherboard pun bahawa rated 100w , semua rojak sekali peak pun 400w jer , hdd, sdd, kipas etc pakai sikit usage sahaja max 100w pun masih ada 150w headroom for wear and tear efficiency degraded situation in future

Maaf uncle ya uncle darjah enam pun tak habis dah cuba sebaik mungkin saya untuk jawab kamu 😂😂
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Haha sorry boss actually i am asking a lot of people some said can use with 650 another said not enough go for 750 o850 hahaha... So iam gonna sell my 3070 first hehee tq uncle ahah
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Aug 15 2024, 04:05 PM)
Kalau pakai 3070 ok je, 4070 memang boleh tu.  wink.gif

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Jangan takut, PSU 600W yang bagus pun jadi.
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Ok bang sy jual rtx sy dlu br beli ahah
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 15 2024, 04:39 PM)
Haha sorry boss actually i am asking  a lot of people some said can use with 650 another said not enough go for 750 o850 hahaha... So iam gonna sell my 3070 first hehee tq uncle ahah
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650W is at the limit I would use for up to 3070. Going to 4070 is actually better as it has a lower TGP than 3070.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 15 2024, 11:05 PM)
650W is at the limit I would use for up to 3070. Going to 4070 is actually better as it has a lower TGP than 3070.
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Haha ok bro tq will sell this gpu first then go for 4070

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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 15 2024, 03:04 PM)
Hi all

Nak tny sikit

Ryzen 7800x3d + be quiet pure rock 2 fx black coz
Mobo msi b650
Ram 16gbx2 vengeance ddr5
Ssd nvme 500gbx2
1 tera hdd 7200 rpm
Asus dual rtx 4070
Montech air 1000

Psu Silverstone 650 80plus gold ckup ke?
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PSU better get 750 80plus gold.

Bottleneck could be the RTX4070. Usually gamers would pair the 7800x3D with higher end graphic.
If want to use RTX4070, even mid level Ryzen is enough for gaming.

Just my 2 cents.
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QUOTE(lyekit @ Aug 16 2024, 01:05 AM)
PSU better get 750 80plus gold.

Bottleneck could be the RTX4070. Usually gamers would pair the 7800x3D with higher end graphic.
If want to use RTX4070, even mid level Ryzen is enough for gaming.

Just my 2 cents.
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Ok boss will sell both then my psu n gpu aswell tq for your opinion... Actually lingloong also said this also ok tq
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QUOTE(lyekit @ Aug 16 2024, 02:05 AM)
PSU better get 750 80plus gold.

Bottleneck could be the RTX4070. Usually gamers would pair the 7800x3D with higher end graphic.
If want to use RTX4070, even mid level Ryzen is enough for gaming.

Just my 2 cents.
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even 7500F & 7600 are able to carry higher end gpus. haha. no botolneck.

if budget is limited, low end CPU + mid-high end GPU are prefered over high end CPU + low end GPU. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 15 2024, 03:04 PM)
Hi all

Nak tny sikit

Ryzen 7800x3d + be quiet pure rock 2 fx black coz
Mobo msi b650
Ram 16gbx2 vengeance ddr5
Ssd nvme 500gbx2
1 tera hdd 7200 rpm
Asus dual rtx 4070
Montech air 1000

Psu Silverstone 650 80plus gold ckup ke?
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nop
borderline... will bomb after 2yr.. who gav u the quote? how much?

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Aug 16 2024, 03:57 PM)
nop
borderline... will bomb after 2yr.. who gav u the quote? how much?
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My FSP bronze 650W PSU nearly 2 years and still going on ... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Aug 16 2024, 03:57 PM)
nop
borderline... will bomb after 2yr.. who gav u the quote? how much?
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Actually i upgraded part by part... Last time using Intel 8700 sell those muzium intel proc+cooler-mobo+ram+and dinasor gtx 1080ti... My item left is 2nvme ssd+1 hdd n psu Silverstone d650w 80plus gold with atx casing... From old setup... Just change the gpu to 3070 and proc 7800x3d ram n mobo... So should stick with 3070 or get 4070 then how about psu is this enough?
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 16 2024, 04:50 PM)
My FSP bronze 650W PSU nearly 2 years and still going on ...  whistling.gif
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So can i get the 4070 without any scary feeling about need change psu?
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 16 2024, 04:50 PM)
My FSP bronze 650W PSU nearly 2 years and still going on ...  whistling.gif
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u pakai 7800x3d n 4070? i just claim 2.. bomb..
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 16 2024, 04:53 PM)
Actually i upgraded part by part... Last time using Intel 8700 sell those muzium intel proc+cooler-mobo+ram+and dinasor gtx 1080ti... My item left is 2nvme ssd+1 hdd n psu Silverstone d650w 80plus gold with atx casing... From old setup... Just change the gpu to 3070 and proc 7800x3d ram n mobo... So should stick with 3070 or get 4070 then how about psu is this enough?
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3070 cukup
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Aug 16 2024, 04:55 PM)
u pakai 7800x3d n 4070? i just claim 2.. bomb..
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7800x3d n 4070 = 120W + 200W TDP
Mine 12700 (unleashed) + 3060TI = 180W + 200W TDP

So far no issue whatsoever, but mine is behind a UPS and Belkin surge protector so maybe it helps prolong
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 16 2024, 04:54 PM)
So can i get the 4070 without any scary feeling about need change psu?
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4070 = 200W TGP
3070 = 220W TGP and it also has 3000series infamous power spikes

You say leh? Its up to you Like if your not confident then just get a 850W GOLD PSU for peace of mind and future upgrade path. For your games you play above, both GPU will be fine actually.
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Aug 16 2024, 04:55 PM)
u pakai 7800x3d n 4070? i just claim 2.. bomb..
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Disclose the model? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Aug 16 2024, 02:43 PM)
even 7500F & 7600 are able to carry higher end gpus. haha. no botolneck.

if budget is limited, low end CPU + mid-high end GPU are prefered over high end CPU + low end GPU. brows.gif
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Aiyo! Read carefully la. I said bottleneck is GPU, not CPU.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 16 2024, 08:09 PM)
4070 = 200W TGP
3070 = 220W TGP and it also has 3000series infamous power spikes

You say leh? Its up to you Like if your not confident then just get a 850W GOLD PSU for peace of mind and future upgrade path. For your games you play above, both GPU will be fine actually.
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u see his set up la.. got surge protector got ups... of coz wont so easy blow
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Aug 16 2024, 08:20 PM)
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QUOTE(lyekit @ Aug 16 2024, 09:46 PM)
Aiyo! Read carefully la. I said bottleneck is GPU, not CPU.
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you need to chill my man. i didnt say you are wrong. just supporting your statement.
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Aug 16 2024, 04:59 PM)
3070 cukup
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ok bro will follow ur advice and stop "nafsu" to upgraded ahahah biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 16 2024, 08:04 PM)
7800x3d n 4070 = 120W + 200W TDP
Mine 12700 (unleashed) + 3060TI = 180W + 200W TDP

So far no issue whatsoever, but mine is behind a UPS and Belkin surge protector so maybe it helps prolong
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so how intel doiing now eh?still good like old days? anyway ups and belkin how are they helping your setup?
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Aug 16 2024, 08:54 PM)
u see his set up la.. got surge protector got ups... of coz wont so easy blow
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so if use belkin should be fine eh?

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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 16 2024, 10:30 PM)
so if use belkin should be fine eh?
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voltage regulator + surge protector.. as long u hv stable current.. 650w with 7800x3d n 3070.. can tahan quite long la... 5yr should be ok for gold rated..
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Aug 17 2024, 12:18 PM)
voltage regulator + surge protector.. as long u hv stable current.. 650w with 7800x3d n 3070.. can tahan quite long la... 5yr should be ok for gold rated..
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Wow nice thanks for sharing brother..
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Aug 16 2024, 08:59 PM)
you need to chill my man. i didnt say you are wrong. just supporting your statement.
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All is good. Hahaha. Have a good weekend.
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QUOTE(lyekit @ Aug 17 2024, 01:58 PM)
All is good. Hahaha. Have a good weekend.
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 16 2024, 10:30 PM)
so how intel doiing now eh?still good like old days? anyway ups and belkin how are they helping your setup?
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What do you mean good like old days? Any modern CPU is better than previous. Its just the margins might be significantly more or less depending on generation jump.

UPS & surge protector helps to smoothen electric power from the wall socket which can help to lessen strain on the PSU as there is less spikes & valleys from the input current.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 17 2024, 10:19 PM)
What do you mean good like old days? Any modern CPU is better than previous. Its just the margins might be significantly more or less depending on generation jump.

UPS & surge protector helps to smoothen electric power from the wall socket which can help to lessen strain on the PSU as there is less spikes & valleys from the input current.
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So i will get the belkin first is good right?
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 18 2024, 07:07 AM)
So i will get the belkin first is good right?
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I would say a good surge protector will help like 30% but UPS will like 70% to help protect your PC. If you want which is better get a UPS.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 18 2024, 09:50 AM)
I would say a good surge protector will help like 30% but UPS will like 70% to help protect your PC. If you want which is better get a UPS.
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Can you tell or give me a link which ups are good shopee is better easy
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 18 2024, 09:50 AM)
I would say a good surge protector will help like 30% but UPS will like 70% to help protect your PC. If you want which is better get a UPS.
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Targus brand ok bro?
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 18 2024, 09:50 AM)
I would say a good surge protector will help like 30% but UPS will like 70% to help protect your PC. If you want which is better get a UPS.
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And tessan is good? I love mounting wall plug like tessan save more space
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Lol masih dalam jalan bulatan belum selesai lagi? TS after dapat many comment will make you more confuse

The rule of thumb is
Since year 2k 单卡才是王道 fast forward today you already know what Nvidia done to their sli fans gamer 😂

够用就好,if money not a problem/money is the problem but want cukup pakai jer go and grab something cukup pakai jer jangan pusingx2 dalam jalan bulatan 😂

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Money not a problem everything also tip top range like i want all asus ROG setup etc own preference reason 😂 or is like pakai 1 to 3 to 6 months or year later sell top up sikit then get new toys Is one of their hobby 😂
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QUOTE(zuozi @ Aug 18 2024, 12:04 PM)
Lol masih dalam jalan bulatan belum selesai lagi? TS after dapat many comment will make you more confuse

The rule of thumb is
Since year 2k 单卡才是王道 fast forward today you already know what Nvidia done to their sli fans gamer 😂

够用就好,if money not a problem/money is the problem but want cukup pakai jer go and grab something cukup pakai jer jangan pusingx2 dalam jalan bulatan 😂

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Money not a problem everything also tip top range like i want all asus ROG setup etc own preference reason 😂 or is like pakai 1 to 3 to 6 months or year later sell top up sikit then get new toys Is one of their hobby 😂
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Ahaha sorry boss just want to knew about surge protection huhu
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 18 2024, 12:09 PM)
Ahaha sorry boss just want to knew about surge protection huhu
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If your rumah never once kena petir and hancur barang dlm rumah electronic saya rasa tak perlu risau, voltage regulator pun juga perlu tukar setiap 5 tahun kalau tak silap sebab dalam ada satu material/alat yg buat kerja tu akan lost effective over time

Surge protector pun tak sangat mahal up to you want or not, i punya PC duax2 pun tak ada , lepas 8-10 tahun tukar PC jer tak perlu risau pun 😂
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QUOTE(zuozi @ Aug 18 2024, 12:15 PM)
If your rumah never once kena petir and hancur barang dlm rumah electronic saya rasa tak perlu risau, voltage regulator pun juga perlu tukar setiap 5 tahun kalau tak silap sebab dalam ada satu material/alat yg buat kerja tu akan lost effective over time

Surge protector pun tak sangat mahal up to you want or not, i punya PC duax2 pun tak ada ,  lepas 8-10  tahun tukar PC jer tak perlu risau pun 😂
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 18 2024, 11:04 AM)
Can you tell or give me a link which ups are good shopee is better easy
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Im using KOSS brand now, no fan. Previously using AVF which has a fan and very annoying when I not using audio.

Im not familiar Targus or Tessan.

Downside to UPS is you need to replace the battery every few years, about RM50 a pair depends on size. It will still be the cheapest thing you need to replace on your PC if things go south.

And when that happens it really depends on your location, if never have lighting surge or power cut, then its not needed but for those rare occasions it helps to save your PC and data. However these just for supporting your PSU, if its too old or too limited its time to go will be sooner.
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 18 2024, 12:23 PM)
Tq boss you really helping me much ahahhaa
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 18 2024, 12:30 PM)
Im using KOSS brand now, no fan. Previously using AVF which has a fan and very annoying when I not using audio.

Im not familiar Targus or Tessan.

Downside to UPS is you need to replace the battery every few years, about RM50 a pair depends on size. It will still be the cheapest thing you need to replace on your PC if things go south.

And when that happens it really depends on your location, if never have lighting surge or power cut, then its not needed but for those rare occasions it helps to save your PC and data. However these just for supporting your PSU, if its too old or too limited its time to go will be sooner.
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If i wanna up gpu so need use this ups eh boss? For better okok will consider ups like tessan o targus read the review they said good
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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Aug 18 2024, 02:17 PM)
If i wanna up gpu so need use this ups eh boss? For better okok will consider ups like tessan o targus read the review they said good
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I think its a bit out of topic. If you wanna up GPU to 4070 its not necessary to change your PSU. But regardless whether you keep use the 3070 or next 4070, getting a UPS is a good idea to prevent your PC life from dying due to power related issues.


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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 18 2024, 07:21 PM)
I think its a bit out of topic. If you wanna up GPU to 4070 its not necessary to change your PSU. But regardless whether you keep use the 3070 or next 4070, getting a UPS is a good idea to prevent your PC life from dying due to power related issues.
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Thanks i learn something today tq again

 

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