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They are not really stuck technically speaking, they can return in the emergency capsule at anytime. But they are doing fine mentally and physically so far so no need to pull the trigger on that yet, just sit pat and wait for next space x schedule je.

It look bad on boeing tho, boeing hitman working overtime this year.
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QUOTE(raynman @ Aug 15 2024, 09:48 AM)
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Its a continuation of a news that happen hack in end of jun

Maybe it's confirmed now that they will stuck for up to 8 months I guess

Previous news just states stuck until August, stuck for months etc
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Lol, 2020s technology is severely beaten by 1960s technology, wth.

How to beat Apollo old record of 11 missions, with 6 landing on the moon all under 4 years duration only.

Highly suspicious.

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The ISS orbits 400 km from Earth; the Moon is 384,400 km from Earth.

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QUOTE(mcchin @ Aug 15 2024, 10:06 AM)
Its a continuation of a news that happen hack in end of jun

Maybe it's confirmed now that they will stuck for up to 8 months I guess

Previous news just states stuck until August, stuck for months etc
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QUOTE(say_xtr @ Aug 15 2024, 10:01 AM)
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Segs now, 8 months later shuttle arrives, back to Earth, born baby. PROFIT!
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 15 2024, 10:10 AM)
Segs now, 8 months later shuttle arrives, back to Earth, born baby. PROFIT!
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The baby could be seriously deformed without any normal gravity at play during pregnancy.
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Maybe after 8 months, they return as 3 person.
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QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 10:26 AM)
The baby could be seriously deformed without any normal gravity at play during pregnancy.
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Just as planned - nase experimen division
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Murica cut cost on space exploration and spend more on wars elsewhere.
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QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 10:26 AM)
The baby could be seriously deformed without any normal gravity at play during pregnancy.
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Wasn't there a movie about this.... baby born without Earth gravity, so he cannot go there or will die?
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Wasn't there a movie about this.... baby born without Earth gravity, so he cannot go there or will die?
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Yes, not only gravity is important, but fresh air and water fills with microorganism and sunlight under our earth protective ozone to build healthy bones and muscles.

Under extreme clean environment, the newborn will be vulnerable to all kinds of pathogens too.
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i remember when boeing execs says "no, no, they can come back anytime they want"
and "we're just testing the systems"

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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Aug 15 2024, 10:02 AM)
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Not enough seats
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Aug 15 2024, 01:20 PM)
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QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 10:07 AM)
Lol, 2020s technology is severely beaten by 1960s technology, wth.

How to beat Apollo old record of 11 missions, with 6 landing on the moon all under 4 years duration only.

Highly suspicious.
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the difference was back in the days, NASA actually had a stronk support for space flights with capable men, tech and machines combined

nowadays all the manpower, knowledge and tech is lost due to degradation in education in USA, losses in the people in STEM field are particularly concerning in US

i heard they said US could suck it up and reach out to Russians, as Russians can prep their Soyuz spacecraft within 2-3 months to bring them back, but ofc due to "relationship issues" they cant
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Aug 15 2024, 12:26 PM)
the difference was back in the days, NASA actually had a stronk support for space flights with capable men, tech and machines combined

nowadays all the manpower, knowledge and tech is lost due to degradation in education in USA, losses in the people in STEM field are particularly concerning in US

i heard they said US could suck it up and reach out to Russians, as Russians can prep their Soyuz spacecraft within 2-3 months to bring them back, but ofc due to "relationship issues" they cant
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Nice plotek-plotek, I still doubt that.

So when can the world beat 11 successful missions, 6 landing on moon/mars/etc expedition under 4 years duration?

2040? 2050? 2060?

Based on your logic, in 50 years, Idiocracy movie will be the new reality:

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QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 01:06 PM)
Nice plotek-plotek, I still doubt that.

So when can the world beat 11 successful missions, 6 landing on moon/mars/etc expedition under 4 years duration?

2040? 2050? 2060?

Based on your logic, in 50 years, Idiocracy movie will be the new reality:

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err plotek what? i just mentioned US has lost the know how to fly these sorts of space missions
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QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 10:07 AM)
Lol, 2020s technology is severely beaten by 1960s technology, wth.

How to beat Apollo old record of 11 missions, with 6 landing on the moon all under 4 years duration only.

Highly suspicious.
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Blame congress for ending saturn v program for space shuttle

They scrapped all the knowledge because of politicians

This is just like how mahathir scrapped HSR
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Aug 15 2024, 01:16 PM)
err plotek what? i just mentioned US has lost the know how to fly these sorts of space missions
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I heard so many excuses, but the most reasonable excuses so far are budget.

Yours is like science fiction, how the heck they can lost that technology, they got it in museum, they can reverse engineering if they clearly lost it with the most overkilling computers millions times better than the 60s computer.
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Aug 15 2024, 01:19 PM)
Blame congress for ending saturn v program for space shuttle

They scrapped all the knowledge because of politicians

This is just like how mahathir scrapped HSR
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They scrap those plan because conducting cold wars and neverending war are more profitable than making science fiction entertainment, because as technology progress, they can't no longer use potato quality cameras of 60s to hide their lies.
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QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 01:20 PM)
I heard so many excuses, but the most reasonable excuses so far are budget.

Yours is like science fiction, how the heck they can lost that technology, they got it in museum, they can reverse engineering if they clearly lost it with the most overkilling computers millions times better than the 60s computer.
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because their STEM education has stagnated duh. the people with proper know how long gone and the knowledge was never passed down properly. these kind of shit happens

your reverse engineer logic doesnt work jack if you dont have the people with the smarts to reverse engineer it in first place. these fields are extremely highly skilled and only the best of the best is required. US do not have the talent pool for these anymore. look at how many actual graduates in STEM field in US are capable of these sorts of field even

you think reverse engineering are like copy paste blueprints then set to construction mode ar
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Aug 15 2024, 01:31 PM)
because their STEM education has stagnated duh. the people with proper know how long gone and the knowledge was never passed down properly. these kind of shit happens

your reverse engineer logic doesnt work jack if you dont have the people with the smarts to reverse engineer it in first place. these fields are extremely highly skilled and only the best of the best is required. US do not have the talent pool for these anymore. look at how many actual graduates in STEM field in US are capable of these sorts of field even

you think reverse engineering are like copy paste blueprints then set to construction mode ar
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Lol, this is hardcore science, all are based on mathematics, formula, and theories, no way they could lose it, it is not some kind of lost civilization cooking recipe cook book lol, hahaha.

If they can repeat 11 times successful mission, it means the formula and the theories are soundproof and legit.

Now you know why Elon Musk has to do all experiments from scratch? Because he can't rely on science fiction lost technology, lol.

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QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 01:20 PM)
I heard so many excuses, but the most reasonable excuses so far are budget.

Yours is like science fiction, how the heck they can lost that technology, they got it in museum, they can reverse engineering if they clearly lost it with the most overkilling computers millions times better than the 60s computer.
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Nothing is ever documented 100%

Following pareto principle, the 20% of undocumented work, is 80% of the job success.

Don't even have to look far, in almost any company if got key people leave, suddenly a lot of things will go wrong. If you ever had to take over someone else's job/department you will know what I'm talking about.

QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 01:39 PM)
Lol, this is hardcore science, all are based on mathematics, formula, and theories, no way they could lose it, it is not some kind of lost civilization cooking recipe cook book lol, hahaha.

If they can repeat 11 times successful mission, it means the formula and the theories are soundproof and legit.

Now you know why Elon Musk has to do all experiments from scratch? Because he can't rely on science fiction lost technology, lol.
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You are confusing science with engineering


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QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 01:39 PM)
Lol, this is hardcore science, all are based on mathematics, formula and theories, no way they could lose it, it is not some kind of lost civilization cooking recipe cook book lol, hahaha.

If they can repeat 11 times successful mission, means the formula and the theories are soundproof and legit.

Now you know why Elon Musk has to do all experiments from scratch? Because he can't rely on science fiction lost technology lol.
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dont be stupid, its like you read a book on building a plane 101 and memorised it. do you somehow have 100% expertise in building a plane after reading the book? thats the logic im trying to explain here

their knowledge base is there, but their people arent up to those levels anymore
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QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 01:20 PM)
I heard so many excuses, but the most reasonable excuses so far are budget.

Yours is like science fiction, how the heck they can lost that technology, they got it in museum, they can reverse engineering if they clearly lost it with the most overkilling computers millions times better than the 60s computer.
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Besides budget, the other reason is that there's no political will. Which basically caused the budget cuts anyway, so it goes hand in hand.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Aug 15 2024, 01:40 PM)
Nothing is ever documented 100%

Following pareto principle, the 20% of undocumented work, is 80% of the job success.

Don't even have to look far, in almost any company if got key people leave, suddenly a lot of things will go wrong. If you ever had to take over someone else's job/department you will know what I'm talking about.
You are confusing science with engineering
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This is not some school kid experiment on backyard, lol.
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QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 01:45 PM)
This is not some school kid experiment on backyard, lol.
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and I'm currently working in an engineering company

Yes, there are processes and stuff to follow. Yes there is documentation on how things work. However when you actually execute, there are tons of factors that are not documented anywhere, and people know what to do/plan based on experience.

If you worked on any moderately complex project, you'll know. So far it seems like your only experience is kid projects, so that's what you think. Those of us with actual working experience know the reality of things.

If even in less complex projects can have so much knowledge loss when key personel are gone, you can imagine what happens for a complex project like space mission.

The recent example with crowdstrike, was partly due to their massive layoff. If you look at some of the major outages in services like FB/Whatsapp, it also correlates with staff leaving.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Aug 15 2024, 01:55 PM)
and I'm currently working in an engineering company

Yes, there are processes and stuff to follow. Yes there is documentation on how things work. However when you actually execute, there are tons of factors that are not documented anywhere, and people know what to do/plan based on experience.

If you worked on any moderately complex project, you'll know. So far it seems like your only experience is kid projects, so that's what you think. Those of us with actual working experience know the reality of things.

If even in less complex projects can have so much knowledge loss when key personel are gone, you can imagine what happens for a complex project like space mission.

The recent example with crowdstrike, was partly due to their massive layoff. If you look at some of the major outages in services like FB/Whatsapp, it also correlates with staff leaving.
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Yes, the end result is they can't even rescue someone stranded 400 km away, rofl.

If 50 years ago, they already can do 2 missions under 8 months only with one mission landing on the moon for expedition and return safely, ahaks.

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QUOTE(smsid @ Aug 15 2024, 11:40 AM)
Yes, not only gravity is important, but fresh air and water fills with microorganism and sunlight under our earth protective ozone to build healthy bones and muscles.

Under extreme clean environment, the newborn will be vulnerable to all kinds of pathogens too.
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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ Aug 15 2024, 09:59 AM)
They are not really stuck technically speaking, they can return in the emergency capsule at anytime. But they are doing fine mentally and physically so far so no need to pull the trigger on that yet, just sit pat and wait for next space x schedule je.

It look bad on boeing tho, boeing hitman working overtime this year.
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8 months can manufacture another baby in tow....
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