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abm
post Aug 12 2024, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Aug 12 2024, 01:56 PM)
the biker also very fast, alza got signal and slow down but the speed of the bike is too fast heading into diminishing gap
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I think the question is if the car had checked the side mirror and analysed the speed of the bike, will the car still turn in?
In other words, could this be avoided even if the motorcycle is speeding?
abm
post Aug 12 2024, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Aug 12 2024, 03:24 PM)
Im talking about general traffic too.
Still your fault because no way you cannot see the side like unless you're an idiot who don't know how to adjust your side mirror.

And your mentioned scenario, that's why I'll say the motobodo is indeed bodo for using the emergency lane because as the video shows, he pretty much just boxed himself in with no escape path. If he had used 1st lane and positioned himself sensibly, he will have plenty escape path. Regardless of speed.
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If it happened in normal lane, someone will say should have used emergency lane.

Such incident can happen in any lane. I would think overall all emergency lane is safer. Bike riders, correct me if I'm wrong.
More importantly don’t ride too fast.

This post has been edited by abm: Aug 12 2024, 04:07 PM
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post Aug 12 2024, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Aug 12 2024, 04:19 PM)
No it's not. Again, watch the video la. Prime example why misusing the emergency lane is dangerous. The moment a car decides to turn into the emergency lane without checking, you're boxed in between the car on the right and the divider on the left. You only have just 1 escape path which is to brake.

If you're in the first lane, and sensibly positioned yourself either in the middle or to the right, you could brake or you could swerve to the right. That's already double the escape paths you had.

If the car crashed and swerved to the right, you now have the shoulder to swerve into or brake.
If the car decided to emergency brake, you can swerve left or right, or just brake.

Besides, it's the emergency lane. Any vehicle should be able to turn into that lane without having to worry about killing a motorcyclist. It's an emergency afterall.
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If the motorcycle is not riding in emergency lane, it could still get boxed in if there is a car beside the motorcycle. No? Of course there are situations where the motor is not boxed in but there are cars behind/next to it that can’t stop on time. Even if the bike manages to change lane, the car in the next lane might not stop in time to avoid him.

I’m just thinking emergency have less car going into the lane. It’s still dangerous but not as dangerous as riding between 2 lanes where cars change lanes more frequently.

Im not a motorcycle rider. That is just my opinion. I may be wrong. Just curious, are you a motorcycle rider?


He could have escaped on the right IF there is no car and if his reaction fast enough. Using the emergency lane doesn’t mean he will surely be boxed in.

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post Aug 12 2024, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Aug 12 2024, 05:10 PM)
Yes I ride.
No, you surely will be boxed in in the emergency lane if a car indeed turned into the emergency lane.

And if indeed if you're in the second lane and you're boxed in by a slow car infront, a long trailer to the left, a tailgating asshole in the back, and a busy third lane, considering the width of a lane, and the spaces occupied by most cars, you can almost always filter and put yourself in better position.

Consider getting stuck behind an underpowered kapchai infront, an asshole riding close to your ass, and that same long trailer to your right in the first lane. Then imagine the space available in that emergency lane, and usually how close vehicles in the first lane hugs the left, you can only hope your front and back don't screw up. You have no option at all to reposition yourself.

It doesn't matter if there is more traffic movement on the rest of the lane. What matters is your escape paths and your options in positioning yourself for safety.

Back to jambatan penang, in your bolded scenario, that's why it's important to ride actual bike with actual torque to accelerate out of situation like that. You swerve, accelerate to a safe position, reassess situation, then reposition as needed. You ride kapchai where you already redlining just to keep with traffic, nasib kau la. Better hope your brake makan. Tu pun kalau tak jatuh sebab takde abs and tak tau progressive braking.
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