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blackbox14
post Sep 5 2024, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(QuantumEdge @ Sep 5 2024, 11:08 AM)
There are reports of DoH and DoT not working on Maxis Home.

As mentioned elsewhere: very likely this is an exception made for businesses as they need to maintain privacy and security. If their private DNS and/or DoH/DoT suddenly don't work, the system can go down and then government will have to answer. This is probably the conclusion MCMC came to and the best way to block as many people as possible from accessing 'bad things' without affecting money flow.
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post Sep 6 2024, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Sep 6 2024, 03:43 PM)
Spoke too soon, it's coming to TIME

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How come Maxis business allows DoT and DoH then? Is it really just up to the ISP company?

Probably need to check that Maxis Business FAQ section because it might be changed soon.
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post Sep 6 2024, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Sep 6 2024, 04:50 PM)
I'm guessing the bare minimum is blocking people from using other DNS servers and force usage of ISP servers

Maxis gently nudge you in the direction to use DoH/DoT

Time just "kindly request" you to change, not "demand"

But based on Maxis thread, it seems like home users will not be treated so kindly, and DoH/DoT May be blocked

So far on my side... Things are still ok.
It remains to be seen how does time implement their block
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And on top of that, the reports of them going after VPN.

Really don't like where this is going.
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post Sep 6 2024, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Epic_winner091 @ Sep 6 2024, 05:17 PM)
Source of them going after VPNs? That's a leap too far IMO.
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Unifi thread post #5513.
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post Sep 6 2024, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Epic_winner091 @ Sep 6 2024, 06:01 PM)
Kahkahkah.

Is there a snowball's chance in hell they would reverse this decision?
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Reverse definitely no, loosen restrictions maybe, but not for the time being. For now must show netizens and socmed that they are hebat and not to be trifled with.

TM, for example, is going all out against public DNS and still adding new IPs to their black hole server. Compare this to when they started DNS blocking sites back in 00s and didn't care if you used Google DNS to bypass.

If some big socmed refuse to get license next year, then it will take even longer for them to let off because many people will be trying to bypass blocks to regain access. Any news or viral incident gov don't want you to see also can put them back on guard.

But yeah, no more Malaysian internet as we knew it. Now can just look out at other countries and envy people who only have to change DNS to a popular provider to bypass blocks.
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post Sep 6 2024, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Sep 6 2024, 06:36 PM)
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...irection-order/
The problem I have with this is.

Ok, feel free to block those websites on ISP DNS

BUT IF THE USER HAS MADE A CONSCIOUS CHOICE TO CHANGE THEIR DNS TO SOMETHING ELSE

YOU DONT HIJACK IT BACK

AND CERTAINLY NOT MESS WITH ENCRYPTED DNS
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We know the real reason la: they can't have an easily bypassed block method if they want to force socmed to buy their license starting next year.

If X or Meta or Google don't comply and people can just change DNS to access anyway, the law amendment would be useless.

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post Sep 6 2024, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(axxer @ Sep 6 2024, 10:55 PM)
What these morons didn't know is that some android phone will auto set private dns setting to "Automatic", it'll be using dns.google by default. Not sure whether got fallback or not but if doesn't, in this situation then whole phone internet will be down since systemwide dns is failing since its not trusting the bogus cert it got.

Being a telco cs this upcoming few days should be fun, dealing with cursing users angry about their downed internet. Talk about doing stupid shit without further thinking 🤦🤦
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They should really just limit it to redirecting plain text DNS the way they did it last month with Maxis and TIME. Leave all DoH and DoT alone.

For the internet at this point in time, secure DNS is not something ISP should wrestle away from the user. It's part of so many security measures and as you said: even part of some devices' default settings.
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post Sep 9 2024, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Sep 9 2024, 02:18 PM)
Anyways, ignoring the above, someone did join the event earlier today

https://x.com/khairizulfadhli/status/1832779318897901918

it was... terrible

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The religious question was one of the businesses asking or one of the MCMC people responding?
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post Sep 9 2024, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Sep 9 2024, 04:57 PM)
Malaysia, where it doesn't matter that you're a legal adult. You are still a child who doesn't know better.

As long as you aren't 'pihak berkepentingan' you don't get a voice in the issue and should just follow what gov says.
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post Sep 9 2024, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Sep 9 2024, 06:21 PM)
Andddd it got deleted
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Strange. They trying to keep the discussions hush hush maybe?

 

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