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TSvapanel
post Aug 4 2024, 12:08 PM, updated 2y ago

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Intel create Hyperthreading for AMD to destroy Intel

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https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/...g-on-lunar-lake

Zen 5 testing shows AMD's performance and power gains with threading — Intel ditched threading with Lunar Lake

One of the major surprises Intel revealed during its Lunar Lake architecture announcement was the decision to remove Hyper-Threading (SMT) from its next-generation thin and light-optimized architecture. New Zen 5/Zen5C multi-threading benchmarks from Phoronix suggest that this feature still benefits AMD CPUs, showing significant performance and efficiency gains from having two threads on a single core.

Phoronix tested AMD's Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 in Linux with its four Zen 5 cores and eight Zen 5c cores, all featuring simultaneous multithreading (SMT) capabilities. The Linux-focused outlet tested the chip with SMT and turned on and off in various tests in Ubuntu 24.04 to see the advantages (or disadvantages) of AMD's SMT.

All 57 benchmarks showed a performance advantage with SMT enabled. On average, the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 performed 18% faster when using SMT than running the same benchmarks without SMT. Some benchmarks performed even better than 18% with SMT, showing as much as a 67% performance advantage in the case of the toyBrot Fractal Generator benchmark.

Power consumption was also virtually unaffected when SMT was enabled. Phoronix recorded an average power consumption of 19.27 watts with SMT disabled on the Ryzen AI 9 chip and 19.63 watts with SMT enabled, translating into a measly 2% power impact with SMT enabled. Thermals were also unaffected, with the chip operating at identical temperatures with SMT enabled and disabled.
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post Aug 4 2024, 12:16 PM

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What to do, Intel become a marketing company instead of the tech/engineering company. They fired the wrong people, thought everyone can invent next gen chips architecture.
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post Aug 4 2024, 12:20 PM

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Intel sibuk dgn SNSD jew.
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post Aug 4 2024, 12:23 PM

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That is silly of Intel
potatolala
post Aug 4 2024, 12:27 PM

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Wait for lunar lake to come out first then only judge

Intel is not removing ht from all products. Intel still acknowledged that ht still has performance benefits in some areas.

Watch this intel got touch on ht vs non ht


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post Aug 4 2024, 12:29 PM

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Intel is becoming like Boeing. They fired all the good tech people and kept all the marketing people.

When a product fails, they blamed on the tech people instead.
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post Aug 4 2024, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(potatolala @ Aug 4 2024, 12:27 PM)
Wait for lunar lake to come out first then only judge

Intel is not removing ht from all products. Intel still acknowledged that ht still has performance benefits in some areas.

Watch this intel got touch on ht vs non ht

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unless the die area saving from removing Hyperthreading can insert an E core, i think its hard to justify removing HT.

At least removing 2 HT thread needs to be replaced by 1 E core then its worth it.
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post Aug 4 2024, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(potatolala @ Aug 4 2024, 12:27 PM)
Wait for lunar lake to come out first then only judge

Intel is not removing ht from all products. Intel still acknowledged that ht still has performance benefits in some areas.

Watch this intel got touch on ht vs non ht

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Spoken like a Inhell shareholder

I already disabled HT on old CPU because Spectre and idle power too high
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post Aug 4 2024, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 4 2024, 12:29 PM)
Intel is becoming like Boeing. They fired all the good tech people and kept all the marketing people.

When a product fails, they blamed on the tech people instead.
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basically every big company out there.
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post Aug 4 2024, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 4 2024, 12:29 PM)
Intel is becoming like Boeing. They fired all the good tech people and kept all the marketing people.

When a product fails, they blamed on the tech people instead.
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Boeing killed people and masuk court case

Intel got meh so far

Or else dont pluck redditors comment no reason je la
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post Aug 4 2024, 01:01 PM

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Intel once removed HT function on Core 2 duo/quad series. Then terasa kecam by amd phenom 2 until add back HT into Core i series


I guarantee this will be temporary measure again due to yield issues then in next next generation will add back HT
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post Aug 4 2024, 03:00 PM

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All in amd stock?
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post Aug 4 2024, 04:53 PM

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No AI CPU ... weak
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post Aug 4 2024, 05:37 PM

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intel has been busy, proactively destroying its reputation lately lol

 

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