Hi all, need your suggestion.
I am planning to get a car, consider new HRV and used 2019 CX5 2.5T, both around my budget.

currently i do have concern on a few things in below:

1. HRV steering rack and suspension issues, not sure is latest batch still having this issue
2. Is CX5 turbo engine reliable?
3. hear say Mazda claim that no need to replace gearbox fluid, is there any issue with this?

New car always recomended over used one

Buy new.

2 very different cars

One is a B segment SUV, another is a C segment SUV

Practicalilty wise CX5 will be better than HRV slightly, and its more comfortable + more powerful

Downside is the fuel consumption will be very heavy for 2.5T. Be prepared to pay for fuel, even more after ron95 subsidy is removed

Maintanence also will be more expensive for the CX5

Regarding the gearbox fluid, it has always been a controversial topic when it comes to Mazda / Bermaz. Consensus is 'lifetime' doesn't mean forever. Many owners (those who care and did their research) will actually change the oil outside after 30 or 40k km. But have to find a Mazda specialist to do it. Since you are considering a used car, just change the gb oil also

Actually Mazda CX-5 already consider as C Segment SUV already, the B Segment is the Mazda CX-3/30.
They took from Mazda 3 chassis for CX-5, while Mazda 2 for CX-3.
Generally due to their direction of making their car/suv more sportier and fun to drive they have to make it small and agile compare to similar category.
If they make it big like CRV you wont have that kind of good handling feel. Every design decision got pro and con.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 29 2024, 09:10 AM

First of all, you got mechanic or budget to fix Mazda cars or not? Mazda parts are not cheap as they are already consider as premium luxury brand. If you got the budget and can maintain it, next get your mechanic to check on the ride, if it is good condition only take as most in used/2nd market for a nice ride like this seems too good to be true.

Usually either got accident before or gearbox/engine issue then sell. My mechanic personally bought 1 CX5 at a cheap as the previous owner drove into a drain and sold it cheap coz of high quote of part replacement.

If you don't mind 2H, FC and maintenance a bit higher but the got powar and AWD then CX-5 2.5T, else go with Honda.

No replace GB fluid is BS imho regardless of Japan or Conti cars, just replace every 30-40K depend on your style of usage.

you are comparing 2 different cars.
both different cc and size.
1 new 1 old.
You want new and latest get HRV, you want value and size get CX5.

This post has been edited by dudester: Jul 29 2024, 11:51 AM

That's what I was saying? HRV is the B segment, CX5 is the C segment.

CX30 is in an odd position actually. The brand market it as a C segment (which it is based on the wheelbase), but it terms of size and space it doesn't match up to the traditional C segments like CX5 or CRV. Same goes to Corolla Cross. I guess its the differentiating factor between Crossover and SUV.

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jul 29 2024, 03:10 PM

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Thank you for your suggestion

Thank you for your suggestion

ya. both around the same price so i am considering. CX-5 is spacious but i do worry on the maintenance.

i see, this car is from my friend. so is not flood car or major accident. thats why i am considering.

ya, the gearbox fluid is what i am concerning and it sounds too good to be true
will definitely replace it if i get it later. but hear say Mazda SC claim that replace at own risk

yes i know. they are in the same price range so i am thinking which one is better deal.

i thought CX-30 is same segment as Cross and HRV?
while the CX-3 is same as WRV no?

omg... thank you so much for this input.

If you truly want hassle free, forget the powerful engines and get a Corolla cross instead. 1.8V for simplicity or hybrid for some mild pep and petrol economy. Both will not cause you to lose sleep over the years to come.

If you can, better choose CX5 2.5 NA instead of turbo.

Currently own CX5 2.2D, if I were to change a new car with that budget, I will get CX5 again, but 2.5 NA.

Used to own a CX-8 before upgraded to something else.

HRV and CX-5 is a completely different segment of car.

Start of with CX-5.
The 2.5T, very powerful, so FC is also quite powerful. Brake is slightly weak for me, it is not up to par with the power. Insist with SC u want to change gear oil and filter, pay yourself. Change at least once right around 50-80k KM. Interior is quite small, head unit screen is quite small, the speedometer offer so little info about the car. Most Mazda are very reliable, very, apart from the diesel.

HR-V, steering rack issue. S rampant in the new Civic and the new CR-V. Its CVT so cannot treat them like a normal ATF.

Just go with the CX-5. Counter check VIN number with the SC to check for the latest last service milage.

I know Toyota is very reliable, but i cant accept the interior design for this. I mean i pay more than 100k and it looks very old fashion.
new Vios and Camry both are good and nice.

but base on what i was told is the 2.5 engine having issue now. from latest info i get
so probably i will go for 2.0 or just HRV for now. seems not many other choices


i see... ya, HOnda steering rack issue is very well known. that is what i am worrying. the CVT too. because i worry some times i might drive aggressive a bit
suppose i wish to get Mazda 3 or CX-30 but the interior space a bit too small.
thank you so much for your information. will check that if going to get the CX5. probably consider 2.0. heard some say 2.5 engine have cylinder issue but i not sure how true it is.

The one having issue is 2.5T but its not as common as issues in 2.2D

The 2.5 NA is a very reliable engine

After a few years of ownership all cars except maybe super cars you will only appreciate the comfort and accessibility of the interior. I own a very old school 90's design car and a very new "modern" design interior car. I only really care how the seat supports me (the old one is better) and where the places to put my hands and keys and phone. As long as got Apple carplay your ICE is done.
So, buy car better be practical la, since you also have budget control it means you are a sensible person.

The 2.0 CX-5 is great except it will not help you save your life in a collision or moment of lapse, whereas the others can. Why do Malaysians ignore safety features?

This leaves you with 2.5 and 2.5T which is still very poor in active safety features compared to Toyota and Honda.

Should be CX-5 chassis is taken from Mazda 6.

CX-30 from Mazda 3

CX-3 from Mazda 2