As per topic.. I noticed their price is much cheaper compared to other brands but also less marketing..is their product good?

I eat this few years liao.

Thinking of this or Swisse and Blackmores

vitamins and supplements are scam.

I think it's better if you specify what type of supplement u are looking for ts rather than the brand in general.

I don't like multivitamins with super high levels if Vitamin B2 and B12. Turns my pee fluorescent yellow.

Yes, good until 2099

The fluorescent yellow urine is all the excess excreted out.

Unless you have a nutritional deficiency or dietary restrictions, most people on healthy, balanced diets do not need to take any additional supplements. Supplement companies be making fat stacks of cash selling people the fear that they need multivitamins.

Oh no... RM150+ per year for multivitamins. I'm never going to financially recover from this...

Meanwhile, 1/5 Malaysian kids suffer from stunted growth due to poor diet. How nutritionally balanced is a Malaysian diet?

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/3...-unhealthy-diet

why, home cooking not enough supplement and vitamins?

45 years old and till now never took supporting vitamins ..

Made in USA, much higher standards than the usual Chinese crap anyway. You'll be lucky if those "herbal supplements" are not laced with lead or mercury to increase their weight.

If you want to continue buying supplemets, that's up to you. Your money, your choice.

Ayam never said the average Malaysian diet was healthy to begin with. Those from lower income groups are unable to afford a wider spread of nutritious foods so they end up buying cheaper, unhealthier foods which are high in carbohydrates because that's all they can afford; hence, the stunted growth from malnutrition.

Hahaha, if the topic is how stupid porcupine bezoar is, many here will rage. Traditional Chinese medicine is a bigger scam la.

This post has been edited by JohnL77: Jul 28 2024, 03:00 PM

Taking multivitamin is cheaper for me than buying fruits.

21st century is like legacy brand. Probably the oldest of the current brands including those direct marketing ones. It existed almost next to Scotts Emultion.

Vitamin C, turmeric and fish oil

This post has been edited by Duckies: Jul 28 2024, 03:10 PM

Ya but not sure why it's much cheaper compared to brands like Blackmore, Swisse and Vita health.. So I takut sikit.

You go iherb see, even cheaper. Those things are actually not that expensive to make. Even brands like swisse also quite cheap in Australia, just come here markup a lot.

Vitamins cannot substitute fibre la

Oh is it? That's why I curious is it because of marketing cost and markup that's why blackmore and swisse is selling like 2 to 3x more expensive...

I see 21st century vitamin c is like 30 bucks for 120 biji but the rest are selling like 100+

But if 21st century is no good then couldn't possible exist so long hmm..

This post has been edited by Duckies: Jul 28 2024, 03:16 PM

I got eat vege.

Only in Malaysia supplements so expensive la. U go iherb see cheap cheap only. Pharmacy got sell Bio-Life cheap cheap too, but the vitamin B level stupidly high, makes my pee fluorescent yellow so I switched to Sentry.

This post has been edited by JohnL77: Jul 28 2024, 03:21 PM

Oh.. I don't need vitamin B supplement at the moment. Ya I noticed Bio Life also cheaper than the rest but both also from US.. Hm...

Compare lo. Online can compare. Chemist warehouse Australia is their cheapest pharmacy, you can see Swisse there how much per bottle. But confirm iherb is the cheapest. Can buy there.

The Swisse multivitamin I see they put macam2 stuff deswai expensive.

Green Tea (Camellia sinensis)(leaf)
standardized extract (6.1)(provides 4.96 mg caffeine) 62 mg †
Inositol 25 mg †
Saw palmetto (serenoa repens)(fruit)
standardized extract (12 5:1) 16 mg †
Gotu Kola (Centella asiatica)(plant) extract (4:1) 12.5 mg †
Papaya (Carica papaya) fruit powder 10 mg †
Grape (Vitis vinifera)(seed) standardized extract (120:1) 9.9 mg †
Lysine (from Lysine hydrochloride) 8 mg †
Asian ginseng (Panax ginseng)(root)
standardized extract (10:1) 5 mg †
Astragalus (Astragalus membranaceus)
(root) extract (10:1) 5 mg †
Fennel (Foeniculum vulgare)(fruit) extract (5:1) 3 mg †
Parsley (Petroselinum crispum)(herb) extract (4:1) 2.5 mg †
Licorice (Glycyrrhiza glabra)
(root and stolon) extract (5:1) 2 mg †
Tomato (Lycopersicon esculentum)(fruit)
standardized extract (350:1) 2 mg †
Ginkgo (Ginkgo biloba)(leaf)
standardized extract (350:1) 2 mg †
Celery (Apium graveolens)(seed) extract (12.5:1) 1.6 mg †
Spearmint oil (aerial parts) 1.5 mg †
Artichoke (Cynara scolymus)(leaf) extract (50:1) 1 mg †
Ginger (Zingiber officinale)(rhizome) extract (5:1) 1 mg †
Co-enzyme Q10 (ubidecarenone) 1 mg †
Milk thistle (Silybum marianum)(fruit)
standardized extract (70:1) 0.714 mg †
Bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus)(fruit)
standardized extract (100:1) 0.25 mg

Those kids parents have big families but cannot give quality care.
Tell you what, even if you add those multi vits that you take to these kids' diet, they will still be stunted.
You can't replace healthy diet and natural foods with synthetic vitamins

This post has been edited by killdavid: Jul 28 2024, 03:26 PM

Oh.. Let me check iherb. Usually I just buy from Shopee.

But vitamin C, turmeric and fish oil macam sama je.. Price difference so much one hmm...

Boss, any solution for B5 like us? What boss say is true. We eat carbo cause it's cheap. Ayam take bihun goreng with egg overloaded full plate rm 3 Saja and skip lunch.

They take their raw materials also from China and then repackaged under Western brand names. After all, China makes most of the drugs in the world. Deswai cheap.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68669244

This post has been edited by Hobbez: Jul 28 2024, 03:30 PM

Ayam eat tongkat ali

Fish oil can get cheaper in Malaysian pharmacy. Brands like Watsons or Bio-Life. Turmeric.. you can just buy from grocery store and add it into your food, right?

Well you got to see whats inside. Sometimes the milligram is less. Sometimes it uses different ingredients. Where the product is made from also dictates the price.

Next time you want to know, is by taking the picture of both the ingredients on the packaging and then compare it. Then you will know why it is cheaper.

That's why shxt stuff like kerosene cooking oil will never improve and will always happen in China. They care more about money than not harming another fellow human

Cannot be la. A wise forum member said, things like this don't happen in China because it's illegal.

For vitamin c I take tablet soluble like guardian store brand, early this year flavettes price when down so I switch as got more taste. I normally wait for shoppe sale and then stock up.

Can't help with the other 2 sorry.

Like other ktard said, they being around for decades. I remember back in school guardian was already selling them.

But you are not the only 1, even my mother & aunt also wary cause the price is cheaper.

To be fair, unless you have a very serious vitamin deficiency & need exact dosage every day. There's no harm in trying 21st century or house brand to save money. Read the labels content to see if the vitamin content is sufficient.

This post has been edited by arkasi: Jul 28 2024, 04:33 PM

Tongkat Ali and Creatine. For male over 30. Take these.

Not really serious deficiency but trying to take something for my liver.. My fatty liver issue getting serious.