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post Jul 22 2024, 04:24 PM, updated 2y ago

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Umno-PAS leaders met to discuss election pact for GE16, says Fadhli

PETALING JAYA: Umno leaders have met with PAS on several occasions to discuss an alliance for the next general election, the Islamic party’s information chief Ahmad Fadhli Shaari claims.

He said the meetings were informal and involved the top leaderships of both parties, Utusan Malaysia reported.

Fadhli also claimed that an Umno leader whom he did not name had said that he was in a dilemma as he was working with the unity government. He said the Umno leader had described this as being to the party’s detriment.

In one of the meetings, they expressed hope that Umno would go back to working with PAS, but they were too afraid to go against their president’s decision, Fadhli was quoted as saying, referring to Ahmad Zahid Hamidi.

They also hope that the Umno president will have a change of heart as the vision he is pushing for is not shared by the grassroots. This is what they (the grassroots) tell me.

Fadhli added however that the idea of an alliance between PAS and Umno was only talk at this point.

Barisan Nasional (BN), Umno’s umbrella coalition, has yet to make an official decision on an alliance for GE16. However, Zahid who is BN chairman has repeatedly said that the coalition will continue its present cooperation with Pakatan Harapan (PH) at the next nationwide polls.

Umno deputy president Mohamad Hasan meanwhile has said that BN could go solo once Umno has regained its strength.

And Umno Supreme Council member Jalaluddin Alias was reported as saying that while cooperation between BN and PH is smooth at the federal level, the same cannot be said at the state levels.

Fadhli said that based on what the Umno leader had shared with him, he was confident that others had realised the Malays’ rejection of the BN-PH alliance and were now afraid that it would lose the next election.

They don’t regret the cooperation with PH, but they feel they are in a tight spot as Umno is keeping PH in power.

He also said that his party had no issues with Zahid and would be willing to work with him if he wanted to join forces with PAS.

It’s not that we don’t like him, we are just not too fond of his attitude. But if he says he wants to work with PAS, we can talk, he said, expressing confidence that Umno would win more seats with PAS than through a continued alliance with PH.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...16-says-fadhli/
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Zahid is going to kick more people out
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Honestly I find it hard to trust politicians from any side for a long time now
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post Jul 22 2024, 04:27 PM

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If PN or BN or watever wins, it’s better to have umno as the dominant party than pas.

Pas is very regressive, avoid at all costs.
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post Jul 22 2024, 04:27 PM

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one side work with this and the other side sleeping with the enemy.

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post Jul 22 2024, 04:28 PM

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post Jul 22 2024, 04:29 PM

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puas will gulp down umno without any bone left
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who going to be PM...?

remember MN or PN era...?
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post Jul 22 2024, 04:31 PM

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Hoi hoi ya hoi ....jilat balik hoi ya hoi?
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dUMbNO will sink faster with PuAS.
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post Jul 22 2024, 04:32 PM

 
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post Jul 22 2024, 04:32 PM

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Why not? Anyone can work with anyone smile.gif
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Sure won't work one, they already had that discussion doesn't end well at GE15

Both also competitor sharing the same voters, who willing to give up their seat
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Better just do 3 way fight la
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Got a feeling next GE PAS will be the next gov
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interesting, but who is the PM? from PAS, Bersatu or Umno?
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umno did listen to PN offer b4 current gov't formed
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post Jul 22 2024, 04:36 PM

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Same core supporter group

They can't Co exist
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post Jul 22 2024, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Prometric @ Jul 22 2024, 04:35 PM)
Got a feeling next GE PAS will be the next gov
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many predict sepenggal for ph gov. dissappointed from them
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QUOTE(afro111 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:27 PM)
If PN or BN or watever wins, it’s better to have umno as the dominant party than pas.

Pas is very regressive, avoid at all costs.
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PuAS is the biggest single party, hard for them not to be dominant. UMNO has no hope to regain Malay vote as long as Komedi is president so PuAS gonna continue to be dominant.

They are not push over or good boi like DAP who has the most seats in government but behave like 2 seats MCA


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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:36 PM)
Same core supporter group

They can't Co exist
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DAP and UMNO also can coexist laugh.gif

Last time Muafakat Nasional kick PH ass so hard it trigger Sheraton move brows.gif
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Are you sure not another one of PAS fitnah dulu case?

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Brushing off rumours, Umno says no ‘cooperation talks’ held with PAS

“I don’t even know as Umno’s secretary-general. If there was any such discussion, it should be between the leadership of both parties.

“I also heard that PAS leaders are discussing with Pakatan Harapan, so they can also discuss,” Asyraf was quoted by Malaysiakini as saying at a press conference in Kuala Lumpur today.

https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/other/brushi...46e077cd6&ei=42
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Don’t spread tales about Umno-PAS talks, Razlan warns Fadhli

An Umno leader has dismissed PAS information chief Ahmad Fadhli Shaari’s claim that Umno leaders have met with their PAS counterparts several times to discuss working together at the next general election.

Umno Supreme council member Razlan Rafii accused Fadhli of promoting false narratives and said there had been no formal negotiations between the parties for an alliance at GE16.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...an-warns-fadli/
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Malaysia political scene turning Indonesia style unpredictable politics. Not clear who's going to right,center or left, can be rojak anytime just for power. Opposition can be brought over as minister to make the gov even stronger and less opposition, that's what Jokowi doing, suddenly even Prabowo is in his cabinet, the Javanese and Malay political silat. 😁

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QUOTE(afro111 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:27 PM)
If PN or BN or watever wins, it’s better to have umno as the dominant party than pas.

Pas is very regressive, avoid at all costs.
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but muh virgin cry.gif
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jul 22 2024, 04:37 PM)
PuAS is the biggest single party, hard for them not to be dominant. UMNO has no hope to regain Malay vote as long as Komedi is president so PuAS gonna continue to be dominant.

They are not push over or good boi like DAP who has the most seats in government but behave like 2 seats MCA
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Doesn’t matter, better start praying now for Pribumi or Umno to become the dominant party rather than pas.
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Hishamuddin already suspended

who else ?
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QUOTE(PeopleOfPerlis @ Jul 22 2024, 04:42 PM)
ismail sabri?

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who else ?
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QUOTE(afro111 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:27 PM)
If PN or BN or watever wins, it’s better to have umno as the dominant party than pas.

Pas is very regressive, avoid at all costs.
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QUOTE(commonsense @ Jul 22 2024, 04:36 PM)
many predict sepenggal for ph gov. dissappointed from them
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i give up in Msia politikus. Dissapointed in numberman. Lost hope. Now dont care who become gov, even PAS become gov i also no giv fuk. Not going to waste time and effort to go and vote anymore.
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see if pas still no zahid or not
pas ok with umno as long as not zahid
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QUOTE(akecema @ Jul 22 2024, 04:48 PM)
see if pas still no zahid or not
pas ok with umno as long as not zahid
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Komedi will die die hold onto his presidential post even it mean sacrifice the winning chance of UMNO. Only his cikgu will protect him with DNAA laugh.gif
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u guys believe umno will work with pas during election meh? both share the same vote bank, most prolly contest at same seats.

think la why would u want to work with ppl who dont have any value added to u? might as well work with other ppl who contest at segmented seats.


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QUOTE(pobox @ Jul 22 2024, 04:25 PM)
Zahid is going to kick more people out
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Umno will not do anything as long Zahid is under AI. Umno lost most seats to Pas and Pkr, not going to be votes by malays anymore. Umno needs to stay relevant with PH or will end up like Mca and Mic.

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DAP + PAS when?
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jul 22 2024, 04:50 PM)
Komedi will die die hold onto his presidential post even it mean sacrifice the winning chance of UMNO. Only his cikgu will protect him with DNAA  laugh.gif
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last time in MN, annuar musa yg handle not zahid
pas already try bring zahid to penjara but ph save him n bring tu putrajaya pulak
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or it could be another gameplay. umnobn contest alone, ph oso alone and pn oso alone. after ge got results only the game start
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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:52 PM)
DAP + PAS when?
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jul 22 2024, 04:37 PM)
PuAS is the biggest single party, hard for them not to be dominant. UMNO has no hope to regain Malay vote as long as Komedi is president so PuAS gonna continue to be dominant.

They are not push over or good boi like DAP who has the most seats in government but behave like 2 seats MCA
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i expected PuAS grow bigger next GE,
PKR cannot perform

DAP? too good boy, their voter didnt vote them as good boy
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so, in the end, go back to Mahathir's time kah.

Umno + Pas
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:24 PM)
Umno-PAS leaders met to discuss election pact for GE16, says Fadhli
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Then Bersatu and the PN coalition how wor?
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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:52 PM)
DAP + PAS when?
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almost jadi already,
PMX keep invite PAS join the gov, just that PAS doesnt want
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post Jul 22 2024, 04:56 PM

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so who gonna give up seats? or divide by state?
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dont care la.. janji reinstall back the fuel subsidy, terus bagi BR1M, lower down living cost.. rakyat siapa pun sappork..
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UMNO ... Bersatu is matter of time PAS gobbled them up ... if both not reform still with same attitude

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Probably H20 and the gang who got suspended.

Nothing new.
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jul 22 2024, 04:51 PM)
Umno will not do anything as long Zahid is under AI. Umno lost most seats to Pas and Pkr, not going to be votes by malays anymore. Umno needs to stay relevant with PH or will end up like Mca and Mic.
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Continue working with DAP will make UMNO become like MCA laugh.gif

Type M has alternative to vote for which is PN, unlike type C who die die loyal to DAP now no more alternate choice

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it will be a single-race party coalition vs a multi-race party coalition in GE16...
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post Jul 22 2024, 05:00 PM

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if UMNO goes to PN, UMNO will be rank no.3 based on seats won, after PAS and Bersatu, so UMNO got a better offer from PH and hence the creation of unity government.

Next election is due by 2027/28, still got 3-4 years to go, too early to judge on it.
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Pas really kingmaker

What happens to PN?
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which UMNO you refering to? zahid umno or sabri umno?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 22 2024, 05:00 PM)
if UMNO goes to PN, UMNO will be rank no.3 based on seats won, after PAS and Bersatu, so UMNO got a better offer from PH and hence the creation of unity government.

Next election is due by 2027/28, still got 3-4 years to go, too early to judge on it.
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The thing is UMNO ain't getting any respect or support from the Malay if the best they can do is "get an offer". They used to be taiko who give offer instead of receiving it.

PuAS gonna be the next taiko since they have the most seats and have the power to give offer instead of begging for it.
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:24 PM)
Umno-PAS leaders met to discuss election pact for GE16, says Fadhli

PETALING JAYA: Umno leaders have met with PAS on several occasions to discuss an alliance for the next general election, the Islamic party’s information chief Ahmad Fadhli Shaari claims.

He said the meetings were informal and involved the top leaderships of both parties, Utusan Malaysia reported.

Fadhli also claimed that an Umno leader whom he did not name had said that he was in a dilemma as he was working with the unity government. He said the Umno leader had described this as being to the party’s detriment.

In one of the meetings, they expressed hope that Umno would go back to working with PAS, but they were too afraid to go against their president’s decision, Fadhli was quoted as saying, referring to Ahmad Zahid Hamidi.

They also hope that the Umno president will have a change of heart as the vision he is pushing for is not shared by the grassroots. This is what they (the grassroots) tell me.

Fadhli added however that the idea of an alliance between PAS and Umno was only talk at this point.

Barisan Nasional (BN), Umno’s umbrella coalition, has yet to make an official decision on an alliance for GE16. However, Zahid who is BN chairman has repeatedly said that the coalition will continue its present cooperation with Pakatan Harapan (PH) at the next nationwide polls.

Umno deputy president Mohamad Hasan meanwhile has said that BN could go solo once Umno has regained its strength.

And Umno Supreme Council member Jalaluddin Alias was reported as saying that while cooperation between BN and PH is smooth at the federal level, the same cannot be said at the state levels.

Fadhli said that based on what the Umno leader had shared with him, he was confident that others had realised the Malays’ rejection of the BN-PH alliance and were now afraid that it would lose the next election.

They don’t regret the cooperation with PH, but they feel they are in a tight spot as Umno is keeping PH in power.

He also said that his party had no issues with Zahid and would be willing to work with him if he wanted to join forces with PAS.

It’s not that we don’t like him, we are just not too fond of his attitude. But if he says he wants to work with PAS, we can talk, he said, expressing confidence that Umno would win more seats with PAS than through a continued alliance with PH.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...16-says-fadhli/
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Ahem...

I think is more like Bersatu kena kencing.

Puas already tried Bersatu in bed, found them wanting and boring.

Now they want to try Doomno.


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QUOTE(tkn0811 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:57 PM)
it will be a single-race party coalition vs a multi-race party coalition in GE16...
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If they can do this then they deserve to win

Can unite malay voters under one banner then will get majority votes.

If majority vote split then get gov like now
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jul 22 2024, 05:10 PM)
The thing is UMNO ain't getting any respect or support from the Malay if the best they can do is "get an offer". They used to be taiko who give offer instead of receiving it.

PuAS gonna be the next taiko since they have the most seats and have the power to give offer instead of begging for it.
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Yes Puas gonna subsidy taiko.

All day only know how to throw subsidy. Can't do shit for the economy, create jobs and lower inflation.

Investors favor Madani.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...dvance-estimate

KUALA LUMPUR: Advance estimates for Malaysia's gross domestic product (GDP) suggest the economy expanded 5.8% in the second quarter of 2024.

In a statement, the National Statistics Departments said for the first half of 2024, GDP is estimated to have increased 5% as compared to 4.1% in the same period last year.

On outlook, it said the country's economy is expected to continue its growth momentum during the quarter supported by domestic and export-driven factors, with a positive outlook for the remainder of the year.

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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:28 PM)
be ready to be taliban state. full of corruption. hamas 2 on the making by the fanatic.
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Give it 2 yrs sure those sohais will be fighting each other and bubar parlimen

U can’t fight the DNA of greed


Of course let’s all laugh at Madani now , for all his circus stunts to win the religious votes, this guy surely fail big time. BIG TIME

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QUOTE(pobox @ Jul 22 2024, 04:25 PM)
Zahid is going to kick more people out
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You wish, at some point he will realize he need his people more than his people need him or the supreme council.

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Jul 22 2024, 05:12 PM)
If they can do this then they deserve to win

Can unite malay voters under one banner then will get majority votes.

If majority vote split then get gov like now
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then the minorities will be discriminated once more...
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if mic and mca out.. how to win la
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QUOTE(tkn0811 @ Jul 22 2024, 05:21 PM)
then the minorities will be discriminated once more...
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Yes, minorities will be neglected
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Jul 22 2024, 05:12 PM)
Yes Puas gonna subsidy taiko.

All day only know how to throw subsidy. Can't do shit for the economy, create jobs and lower inflation.

Investors favor Madani.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...dvance-estimate

KUALA LUMPUR: Advance estimates for Malaysia's gross domestic product (GDP) suggest the economy expanded 5.8% in the second quarter of 2024.

In a statement, the National Statistics Departments said for the first half of 2024, GDP is estimated to have increased 5% as compared to 4.1% in the same period last year.

On outlook, it said the country's economy is expected to continue its growth momentum during the quarter supported by domestic and export-driven factors, with a positive outlook for the remainder of the year.

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They just emulate the past PH who keep saying subsidy and tongkat can be given as long as no songlap.

Remember formulaman? laugh.gif

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Seems like bersatu is doomed.. Pas+Umno vs PH.. Bersatu?
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it will be a single-race party coalition vs a multi-race party coalition in GE16...
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You saw what I see, not only u+p+b1 but +'x'

Those pleasants who had wished for a 4+ during the last brooding fear moment about contingency and the needful not long ago, better at it by now.

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They just emulate the past PH who keep saying subsidy and tongkat can be given as long as no songlap.

Remember formulaman?  laugh.gif
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https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/pm-...5e8da8b15&ei=16

KUALA LUMPUR, July 22 — Malaysia’s sovereign debt has been trending downwards in the past three years, fro, RM100 billion in 2021 and 2022 to RM93 billion in 2023.

But Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim is confident his government can reduce it further to RM86 billion this year to ensure financial stability.


Formula man already reducing debt and aim to reduce more from Moo Moo subsidy to the sky era.

Better Formula man than your puas taliboon man, everyday talk relegen other matters not bother, spent 300m on 30 telaga but still no water come out.
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or it could be another gameplay. umnobn contest alone, ph oso alone and pn oso alone. after ge got results only the game start
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Zahid is Sun Quan

We’re now in the period of Red Cliff where Liu Bei is in alliance with Sun Quan 😝
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Seems like bersatu is doomed.. Pas+Umno vs PH.. Bersatu?
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ok la, that is democracy ma, who wanna form.what coalition to win election also can. u choose the game, the players are playing accordingly to the game. kek
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If PN or BN or watever wins, it’s better to have umno as the dominant party than pas.

Pas is very regressive, avoid at all costs.
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DAP + PAS when?
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Jeng jeng jeng.

How about everyone else but Bersatu and Gelakan?
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If they can do this then they deserve to win

Can unite malay voters under one banner then will get majority votes.

If majority vote split then get gov like now
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If umno go to PN there is no more split in Malay vote

PH itself hardly pulls 10% of Malay vote at the moment
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Because they are all the same deep down, only brand different.

You think DAP fighting for you? Semua for their pockets and children.

Fearmongering you against UMNo and PAS

Same as UMNO & PAS fearmongering the Tyne M regarding type C.

Same shit different smell
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DAP + PAS when?
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Saya ulam.....

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Anwar will use his final trump card if it really goes down this path. Bossku alone can single handly revive UMNO...
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jul 22 2024, 05:52 PM)
but but type c & i live in kelate ganu okay saja? can speak very fluent bm also?

oh wai-
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If umno go to PN there is no more split in Malay vote

PH itself hardly pulls 10% of Malay vote at the moment
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Yes if umno joins with PN, no more split.

If umno joins with pas only, then got those in bersatu not joining them but I think those are the minority
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Got a feeling next GE PAS will be the next gov
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What feeling.. it is donedeal that PAS will be the next gov.
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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:52 PM)
DAP + PAS when?
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they did before ; one more time also no problem
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jul 22 2024, 04:57 PM)
Continue working with DAP will make UMNO become like MCA  laugh.gif

Type M has alternative to vote for which is PN, unlike type C who die die loyal to DAP now no more alternate choice
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Without DAP, PKR is useless unlike MCA to UMNO. DAP may look like eunuch but their seats are winnable and more was allocated to them compared to anjing MCA which had to take the scraps from Umno.

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What feeling.. it is donedeal that PAS will be the next gov.
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QUOTE(OrientalGopi @ Jul 22 2024, 08:35 PM)
politician = only care about their own . any coalition doesn't relevant to the ppl  or nation ...cina can also support PAS kaw2 if poket can see millions ringgit....yall really think ppl wanna be politician for the country ke...is for their money la
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But we still need to cast our vote right? if every politician also same then vote for what. stay at home better. Really no others candidate as of now. sigh
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see if pas still no zahid or not
pas ok with umno as long as not zahid
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Fadli now cakap they are ok with zahid. Read the piece.

Only if pmx work with zahid kenot n jahat.
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thats why i memang going to vote for PAS je next GE.

Save all the trouble, headache and feeling of betrayal/disappointment later..


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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jul 22 2024, 05:45 PM)
Anwar is Liu Bei

Hadi is Cao Cao

Zahid is Sun Quan

We’re now in the period of Red Cliff where Liu Bei is in alliance with Sun Quan 😝
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oh i see....to make things more interesting, then who is Zhuge liang, Zhou Yu? icon_idea.gif

btw, Hadi is Cao Cao? laugh.gif Got any better candidate or not?

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oh i see....to make things more interesting, then who is Zhuge liang & Zhou Yu?  icon_idea.gif

btw, Hadi is Cao Cao?  laugh.gif Got any better candidate or not?
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Zhuge Liang is formula man Rafizi. Zhou Yu is Tok Mat.

If you don’t want Hadi as Cao Cao, then the only option is Sanusi 😝
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Bestnya rakyat kena kencing setiap 5 tahun
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ok, lets talk detail into this.

any other option for the rakyat? i mean practical options?
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Zhuge Liang is formula man Rafizi. Zhou Yu is Tok Mat.

If you don’t want Hadi as Cao Cao, then the only option is Sanusi 😝
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Cao cao must be a cunning and also must be the most resources person

If Tun Dr. M joins PAS, he is the best candidate. Hadi & Sanusi not cunning enough lar laugh.gif
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ok, lets talk detail into this.

any other option for the rakyat? i mean practical options?
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Vote infamous parties. (PSM, PRM, MUDA etc)
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It’s just gonna get worse
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it won't be a "bye bye" becoz....it can never happen IMO.

history , they tried...and look how divided /greed focus they were....

Can two laws be co-existing?... nons will never follow a religious law that does not apply to them....you think those lapdogs party will agree?...LOL.

Greed vs greed, to think what a country will become.....dimwit would only think about their short term future, and no-future for their next generation.....
Look at the decades of results....

More time to play religion/race speeches in Parliment than actual work?...
Policies that cannot be applied over their own religious law?...

LOL... this are some of the smalllllll trifles that both identities cannot even come in agreement....you think working together benefits any of you citizens?...

Good luck....


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Vote infamous parties. (PSM, PRM, MUDA etc)
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but then you know what we gonna get when we vote this?

another PH1.0 issue, dunno how to run the gov.
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Umno will become subservient to Pas
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jul 22 2024, 04:24 PM)
Umno-PAS leaders met to discuss election pact for GE16, says Fadhli

PETALING JAYA: Umno leaders have met with PAS on several occasions to discuss an alliance for the next general election, the Islamic party’s information chief Ahmad Fadhli Shaari claims.

He said the meetings were informal and involved the top leaderships of both parties, Utusan Malaysia reported.

Fadhli also claimed that an Umno leader whom he did not name had said that he was in a dilemma as he was working with the unity government. He said the Umno leader had described this as being to the party’s detriment.

In one of the meetings, they expressed hope that Umno would go back to working with PAS, but they were too afraid to go against their president’s decision, Fadhli was quoted as saying, referring to Ahmad Zahid Hamidi.

They also hope that the Umno president will have a change of heart as the vision he is pushing for is not shared by the grassroots. This is what they (the grassroots) tell me.

Fadhli added however that the idea of an alliance between PAS and Umno was only talk at this point.

Barisan Nasional (BN), Umno’s umbrella coalition, has yet to make an official decision on an alliance for GE16. However, Zahid who is BN chairman has repeatedly said that the coalition will continue its present cooperation with Pakatan Harapan (PH) at the next nationwide polls.

Umno deputy president Mohamad Hasan meanwhile has said that BN could go solo once Umno has regained its strength.

And Umno Supreme Council member Jalaluddin Alias was reported as saying that while cooperation between BN and PH is smooth at the federal level, the same cannot be said at the state levels.

Fadhli said that based on what the Umno leader had shared with him, he was confident that others had realised the Malays’ rejection of the BN-PH alliance and were now afraid that it would lose the next election.

They don’t regret the cooperation with PH, but they feel they are in a tight spot as Umno is keeping PH in power.

He also said that his party had no issues with Zahid and would be willing to work with him if he wanted to join forces with PAS.

It’s not that we don’t like him, we are just not too fond of his attitude. But if he says he wants to work with PAS, we can talk, he said, expressing confidence that Umno would win more seats with PAS than through a continued alliance with PH.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...16-says-fadhli/
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who says?? got ppl deny already... dont simply publish without facts
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but then you know what we gonna get when we vote this?

another PH1.0 issue, dunno how to run the gov.
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Who thought PH cud govern back in 2008? When they won PG n Selangor

Kasi Chan la macha. Start at state level at least
Give them a few seats to gauge their performance as opposition

I wud prefer at council level but not gonna happen soon

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Yes if umno joins with PN, no more split.

If umno joins with pas only, then got those in bersatu not joining them but I think those are the minority
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Bersatu itself hardly has any pull

Fact is most of the support is for PAS
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ok, lets talk detail into this.

any other option for the rakyat? i mean practical options?
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The only thing the rakyat can do is to exercise their civic duty to vote. Nothing much we can do if a new governing coalition pops up every 5 years.
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UMNO X PAS is just hantu pukul hantu.

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Swap parties alliance every ge la. Ge 16 umno pas. Ge17 umno pakatan, ge 18 umno pas ge 19 umno pakatan


Kasi rotate la senang

 

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