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TStmc
post Jul 26 2024, 07:12 PM

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AP mode connection , only need to make sure DHCP is enabled on the primary/ultimate router.

Question: is it true that for AP mode connection of a router to a router with ultimate connection to the Internet, there is no configuration needed on the ultimate router ?

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When setting up an Access Point (AP) mode connection between two routers, the configuration depends on the specific routers and your network requirements. Here’s a general overview:

AP Mode:

In AP mode, the secondary router (the one acting as an AP) extends the wireless signal from the primary router.
The AP router doesn’t handle routing or DHCP; it simply relays data to and from devices.

Ultimate Router (Primary Router):
The primary router (often called the “ultimate router”) is the one connected to the internet.

Typically, the ultimate router doesn’t need additional configuration for AP mode.

However, ensure that the ultimate router’s DHCP server is enabled and that it assigns IP addresses to devices.

Steps:
Connect the AP router to the ultimate router using an Ethernet cable.

Set the AP router to AP mode (usually done in the router’s settings).

Configure the AP router’s Wi-Fi network name (SSID) and password.

Devices connected to the AP router will share the same network as the ultimate router.

Remember to check your specific router’s documentation for any model-specific instructions. 🌐🔌12. If you need further assistance, feel free to ask! 😊

Question: can AP mode connection be accomplished via wireless connection?

Copilot:
AP mode typically involves connecting routers using an Ethernet cable. However, wireless AP mode is also possible, but it’s less common. Here’s how it works:

Wired AP Mode:
The secondary router (acting as an AP) connects to the primary router via an Ethernet cable.
This setup provides a stable connection and better performance.

Wireless AP Mode:
Some routers allow wireless AP mode.
You configure the secondary router to connect wirelessly to the primary router.

The secondary router then acts as an AP, extending the Wi-Fi network.

Considerations for Wireless AP Mode:
Signal Strength: Ensure strong Wi-Fi signal between routers.

Speed: Wireless AP mode may be slower than wired.
Channel Overlap: Avoid channel interference.
Remember to check your router’s documentation for specific instructions on enabling wireless AP mode! 🌐🔌📶. If you need further assistance, feel free to ask! 😊

PRSXFENG
post Jul 26 2024, 10:43 PM

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this is based on what I know, may be right may be wrong

AP is basically just a interface for you to connect to the network, like, your AP is just the wifi radio broadcasting wifi, all the processing/routing/etc is handling by your main router. It just needs to connect up to the main router so that it has somewhere to send and receive the data to/from
it is "dumb", as one way to explain it, it needs something to control it

and, can AP mode connection be accomplished via wireless connection

even if possible, always run cables
the performance penalty of it having to do double duty of both talking to your devices and also the upstream is huge
why? wifi can only send or receive at one time
so it has to take the data from your device
process it
then send it upwards
repeat in opposite direction

this happens really fast so it feels like it can send and receive at the same time but the effective speed is reduced

how does mesh overcome this?
cheap ones dont, you get a speed penalty anyways
expensive ones have dual radios, so that it can do 2 things at once, talking to the upstream device on one also your devices on the other

in the end though, nothing will beat wires, use wires.
TStmc
post Jul 28 2024, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Jul 26 2024, 10:43 PM)
this is based on what I know, may be right may be wrong

AP is basically just a interface for you to connect to the network, like, your AP is just the wifi radio broadcasting wifi, all the processing/routing/etc is handling by your main router. It just needs to connect up to the main router so that it has somewhere to send and receive the data to/from
it is "dumb", as one way to explain it, it needs something to control it

and, can AP mode connection be accomplished via wireless connection

even if possible, always run cables
the performance penalty of it having to do double duty of both talking to your devices and also the upstream is huge
why? wifi can only send or receive at one time
so it has to take the data from your device
process it
then send it upwards
repeat in opposite direction

this happens really fast so it feels like it can send and receive at the same time but the effective speed is reduced

how does mesh overcome this?
cheap ones dont, you get a speed penalty anyways
expensive ones have dual radios, so that it can do 2 things at once, talking to the upstream device on one also your devices on the other

in the end though, nothing will beat wires, use wires.
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I still have two more months before my contract will expire, then I will try out all these with Umobile 5g home. I have identified an open space in my house has the best 5g signal, can get 400-550 Mbps. Then I extend it to other areas using cable or 5GHz WiFi.
TStmc
post Sep 22 2024, 08:53 PM

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Anybody has experienced overheat issue with the umobile 5G modem ?


JRitzman
post Sep 23 2024, 07:15 AM

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The Umobile 5G router does getting hot but I feel not freaking hot as my TP LINK AX50 router.
I also discovered that connecting my smart TV watching Netflix is much faster, smoother and no degradation using the TP LINK AX50 wifi rather than using the Umobile 5G router wifi. I connected the Umobile router to the WAN port of the AX50 router. Now I have 2 wifi address at home ha ha. The Umobile 5G router is like a book no antenna whatsoever. The AX50 router got 4 lonnnnggg antenna. Just my 3 cents.
TStmc
post Sep 23 2024, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(JRitzman @ Sep 23 2024, 07:15 AM)
The Umobile 5G router does getting hot but I feel not freaking hot as my TP LINK AX50 router. 
I also discovered that connecting my smart TV watching Netflix is much faster, smoother and no degradation using the TP LINK AX50 wifi rather than using the Umobile 5G router wifi.  I connected the Umobile router to the WAN port of the AX50 router.  Now I have 2 wifi address at home ha ha.  The Umobile 5G router is like a book no antenna whatsoever.  The AX50 router got 4 lonnnnggg antenna.  Just my 3 cents.
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"Connected Umobile router to the WAN port of the AX50", meaning the Umobile sim card is inserted into the Umobile router, and hence doing the actual work of 5G transcoding/transmission and TP-Link AX50 is doing the routing/AP ? That still causes the TP-link AX50 to be superhot ?
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post Oct 18 2024, 05:40 PM

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Good morning everyone, what mbps are we expecting from Umobile broadband wifi home? is 70-90mbps acceptable?

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PRSXFENG
post Oct 19 2024, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Sep 23 2024, 09:39 AM)
"Connected Umobile router to the WAN port of the AX50", meaning the Umobile sim card is inserted into the Umobile router, and hence doing the actual work of 5G transcoding/transmission and TP-Link AX50 is doing the routing/AP ? That still causes the TP-link AX50 to be superhot ?
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AX50 is powered by Intel Lantiq chipset, so I guess that's just an Intel thing tongue.gif

jk but regardless the AX50 does run WARM
consider a fan

 

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