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TSkdr93
post Jul 18 2024, 07:35 AM, updated 2y ago

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2024 model just launched, seem like well specced, good passive and active safety (9airbag etc), 2.0 should give good power + moderate fuel savings for 160k

Considering all this seems like a good offering, plus on safety side seem like the only compact suv / crossover with 9 airbags (previous gen closer to 140k + 7 airbags)

Yet dont really see many on the road.
Subaru value offering for this price point missed its mark (too expensive for segment?)

Curious that malaysians dont rally see safety specs when buy new car?

Would you consider buy car based on safety features as important factor?

This post has been edited by kdr93: Jul 18 2024, 07:38 AM
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post Jul 18 2024, 08:26 AM

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Malaysian only see RV
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post Jul 18 2024, 09:03 AM

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buy china car also better than better subruhro
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post Jul 18 2024, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(croco_2002 @ Jul 18 2024, 09:26 AM)
Malaysian only see RV
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Sadly this, but similar reason people can still buy China cars. laugh.gif

I think mostly people are not aware of the pro of Subaru and prefer outer/interior cosmetic, cost and power
You see most people when go buy China cars, wow the design so futuristic buy! But later brake, axle, spare part problem then blame car manufacturer again. laugh.gif

Subaru did not got great marketing team to highlight their safety features (Which is their strong category) especially the eyesight system, for a niche brand actually their spare part support is quite sorted out (I been Xv 2015 owner until today never got spare part issue) and also got plenty of Japanese aftermarket support (half-cut) & OEM parts from Thailand & Malaysia. While some "local" brand say volume will help settle the spare part issue, until today still heard some parts need to wait for few weeks or months also. laugh.gif

Few Reason Why Most Malaysia i heard don't pick Subaru

- Poor RV
- Design not attractive
- Car price not cheap
- Small boot size
- Miss/incorrect-information about Subaru service/parts must be expensive (Nowadays Subaru also can offer those 3~5 years free maintenance package, similar to BMW/Mazda also)
- CVT gearbox (Subaru CVT is using chain type - Which is more durable, not steel belt like those louzy gearbox from H brand)
- Miss/incorrect-information that AWD must be bad in fuel consumption. doh.gif

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 18 2024, 10:30 AM
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post Jul 18 2024, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(croco_2002 @ Jul 18 2024, 08:26 AM)
Malaysian only see RV
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I wonder how many even sell back their car and still have some net "gain" after deduct total loan cost
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post Jul 18 2024, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 18 2024, 10:24 AM)
Sadly this, but similar reason people can still buy China cars.  laugh.gif 

I think mostly people are not aware of the pro of Subaru and prefer outer/interior cosmetic, cost and power
You see most people when go buy China cars, wow the design so futuristic buy! But later brake, axle, spare part problem then blame car manufacturer again.  laugh.gif 

Subaru did not got great marketing team to highlight their safety features (Which is their strong category) especially the eyesight system, for a niche brand actually their spare part support is quite sorted out (I been Xv 2015 owner until today never got spare part issue) and also got plenty of Japanese aftermarket support (half-cut) & OEM parts from Thailand & Malaysia. While some "local" brand say volume will help settle the spare part issue, until today still heard some parts need to wait for few weeks or months also.  laugh.gif

Few Reason Why Most Malaysia i heard don't pick Subaru

- Poor RV
- Design not attractive
- Car price not cheap 
- Small boot size
- Miss/incorrect-information about Subaru service/parts must be expensive (Nowadays Subaru also can offer those 3~5 years free maintenance package, similar to BMW/Mazda also)
- CVT gearbox (Subaru CVT is using chain type - Which is more durable, not steel belt like those louzy gearbox from H brand) 
- Miss/incorrect-information that AWD must be bad in fuel consumption.  doh.gif
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Yup, credit where is is due, T and H even though already popular have good promo campaign for their cars

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 18 2024, 09:12 AM)
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This one even though good price not many on the road yet

I guess many still worry to take the leap, to relatively unknown brand
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post Jul 18 2024, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(kdr93 @ Jul 18 2024, 07:35 AM)
2024 model just launched, seem like well specced, good passive and active safety (9airbag etc), 2.0 should give good power + moderate fuel savings for 160k

Considering all this seems like a good offering, plus on safety side seem like the only compact suv / crossover with 9 airbags (previous gen closer to 140k + 7 airbags)

Yet dont really see many on the road.
Subaru value offering for this price point missed its mark (too expensive for segment?)

Curious that malaysians dont rally see safety specs when buy new car?

Would you consider buy car based on safety features as important factor?
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1. A lot of owners said it's underpower 154hp NA for 1500kg++
2. CVT, despite different architecture (more durable) there is less promotion emphasize/explained it.


for underpower:

Exora CFE weight 1465kg+-, max torque at 2k rpm compared to Subaru XV 2.0 NA max torque at 4k rpm. So, you feel it less powerful compared to Exora.
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post Jul 18 2024, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(babisotong @ Jul 18 2024, 01:10 PM)
1. A lot of owners said it's underpower 154hp NA for 1500kg++
2. CVT, despite different architecture (more durable) there is less promotion emphasize/explained it.
for underpower:

Exora CFE weight 1465kg+-, max torque at 2k rpm compared to Subaru XV 2.0 NA max torque at 4k rpm. So, you feel it less powerful compared to Exora.
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Bro, you need to learn to see the torque curve and also comparing a turbo & N/A is totally different category.
We have member go do dyno before the torque curve is very smooth linear out from 2000~4000rpm thus why they use CVT as the torque is very good at lower RPM range, not like competitors example 2.0 skyactive engine due to high compression the torque curve is sharp climb thus why they use 6AT gearbox to compensate the low end torque feel.

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post Jul 18 2024, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 18 2024, 10:24 AM)
Sadly this, but similar reason people can still buy China cars.  laugh.gif 

I think mostly people are not aware of the pro of Subaru and prefer outer/interior cosmetic, cost and power
You see most people when go buy China cars, wow the design so futuristic buy! But later brake, axle, spare part problem then blame car manufacturer again.  laugh.gif 

Subaru did not got great marketing team to highlight their safety features (Which is their strong category) especially the eyesight system, for a niche brand actually their spare part support is quite sorted out (I been Xv 2015 owner until today never got spare part issue) and also got plenty of Japanese aftermarket support (half-cut) & OEM parts from Thailand & Malaysia. While some "local" brand say volume will help settle the spare part issue, until today still heard some parts need to wait for few weeks or months also.  laugh.gif

Few Reason Why Most Malaysia i heard don't pick Subaru

- Poor RV
- Design not attractive
- Car price not cheap 
- Small boot size
- Miss/incorrect-information about Subaru service/parts must be expensive (Nowadays Subaru also can offer those 3~5 years free maintenance package, similar to BMW/Mazda also)
- CVT gearbox (Subaru CVT is using chain type - Which is more durable, not steel belt like those louzy gearbox from H brand) 
- Miss/incorrect-information that AWD must be bad in fuel consumption.  doh.gif
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planning to get a 2nd hand Forester, 2016-2017 for around RM40k.
Just worry about the durability and service costs.

Some people say Subaru is as durable as Toyota, but more fun to drive
Some say their parts very fragile, and hard to find place to repair etc
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post Jul 18 2024, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(babisotong @ Jul 18 2024, 12:10 PM)
1. A lot of owners said it's underpower 154hp NA for 1500kg++
2. CVT, despite different architecture (more durable) there is less promotion emphasize/explained it.
for underpower:

Exora CFE weight 1465kg+-, max torque at 2k rpm compared to Subaru XV 2.0 NA max torque at 4k rpm. So, you feel it less powerful compared to Exora.
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Read that boxer engine is hard to work on due to its design. Hence much higher repair costs
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post Jul 18 2024, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Jul 18 2024, 03:08 PM)
planning to get a 2nd hand Forester, 2016-2017 for around RM40k.
Just worry about the durability and service costs.

Some people say Subaru is as durable as Toyota, but more fun to drive
Some say their parts very fragile, and hard to find place to repair etc
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Join Subaru group in facebook or forums and get your information from real owners.

First advice, get a reputable mechanic which can fix Subaru and not some road side tire shop or bawah pokok mechanic.

For 2016~2017 should be the local CKD SJ forester.
Previously due to cheap CKD, a lot of local CKD parts especially bush really is too fragile. Now i use Thailand OEM bush more long lasting.
Bearing issue already solved if the previous owner upgraded the rear bearing hub (If no upgrade, might need to folk out around 500~600 for it), which i did and bearing now over 100k still no issue compare to previous (some 60~80k already got bearing noise). FYI, this SJ Forester parts are similar and share with GP7 Xv1.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 18 2024, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 18 2024, 10:24 AM)
Sadly this, but similar reason people can still buy China cars.  laugh.gif 

I think mostly people are not aware of the pro of Subaru and prefer outer/interior cosmetic, cost and power
You see most people when go buy China cars, wow the design so futuristic buy! But later brake, axle, spare part problem then blame car manufacturer again.  laugh.gif 

Subaru did not got great marketing team to highlight their safety features (Which is their strong category) especially the eyesight system, for a niche brand actually their spare part support is quite sorted out (I been Xv 2015 owner until today never got spare part issue) and also got plenty of Japanese aftermarket support (half-cut) & OEM parts from Thailand & Malaysia. While some "local" brand say volume will help settle the spare part issue, until today still heard some parts need to wait for few weeks or months also.  laugh.gif

Few Reason Why Most Malaysia i heard don't pick Subaru

- Poor RV
- Design not attractive
- Car price not cheap 
- Small boot size
- Miss/incorrect-information about Subaru service/parts must be expensive (Nowadays Subaru also can offer those 3~5 years free maintenance package, similar to BMW/Mazda also)
- CVT gearbox (Subaru CVT is using chain type - Which is more durable, not steel belt like those louzy gearbox from H brand) 
- Miss/incorrect-information that AWD must be bad in fuel consumption.  doh.gif
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Last time test both xv and forester. Think feel just like other Japan brand. Would like to go for Forester but my wife did not like the look.
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QUOTE(kdr93 @ Jul 18 2024, 11:26 AM)
I wonder how many even sell back their car and still have some net "gain" after deduct total loan cost
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Myself have sold honda city and civic and both time after deduct loan cost manage to get some money. City 12k, civic 20k.both sell after 7 years usage.
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post Jul 18 2024, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(croco_2002 @ Jul 18 2024, 04:27 PM)
Last time test both xv and forester. Think feel just like other Japan brand. Would like to go for Forester but my wife did not like the look.
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Sadly a lot of people only prefer looks first, luckily my family test driven Subaru if not we might be joining the H family also. My sister at that time prefer HRV/CRV, after test driven it back to back with Subaru Xv/Forester no more going back to Honda. Even the deposit she pay for HRV also forefeit it. laugh.gif Really sometime you need to test drive, experience it with different ride only will know the difference.

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Nowadays with social media, forums etc, no one want to buy car from Tan Choong Motor, for the after sales service.
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Not mistaken Subaru already exit Malaysia.

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