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TShotdayum
post Jul 16 2024, 08:11 AM, updated 2y ago

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Frustrations as a Universiti Malaya Computer Science student


TL;DR - if you're going to pursue your studies in Universiti Malaya, specifically in AI, **DONT.** There's little to no infrastructure here

As a Computer Science student from Universiti Malaya, the supposed number 1 university in Malaysia, we have a blockchain lab, and it's just rotting away here for no goddamn reason, and it even became a store for storing raya decorations and even chairs and tables. In this very same room, there's a bunch of GPUs (unused, and even RUSTING) 
 
The Artificial Intelligence department, has **zero infrastructure** to assist them in their AI training, as well as exploring more about Generative AI applications, without forking out money for a GPU Cloud subscription! (which mind you, costs RM80/month, and resorting to using Kaggle GPUs is very much unsustainable because we're full-time degree students not doing the degree on the side) 
 
This is just outrageous. The number one university in Malaysia, having this shit infrastructure, as well as having a dedicated Artificial Intelligence department for students to come here and do their degree, just for them to pay to even support their education journey. For all I know, most people come to University because of two reasons, number 1 is getting that degree paper for further use, and number 2 being that they don't have infrastructure at home to learn the stuff they need themselves 
 
AI students come into the faculty thinking they have proper infrastructure to assist them in their academic AI-related pursuits, and yet boom they get hit with a goddamn wall with NO INFRASTRUCTURE, and when recommending to the higher ups of the university, they just shrug it off as "things take time".

So you're telling me this room, which has been here since 2018, no lecturers from the AI department ever thought "Hey, maybe we should have our own GPU clusters so that we can actually do research instead of having the blockchain lab, filled with a ton of GPUS, rot there"? Damn man

Anyways, that's just what I wanted to vent. Seeing that we're moving towards a more AI-centric future, seeing a goddamn university having little to no infrastructure to even support this is quite depressing, even more so being a student in this "prestigious" institution.

Sekian. Sila bersurai secara aman dan teratur.
DarkAeon
post Jul 16 2024, 08:13 AM

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AI research ah? how many gpu can UM afford
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post Jul 16 2024, 08:16 AM

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80 / month?

seems to be affordable considering they are mostly using Iphone
SUSifourtos
post Jul 16 2024, 08:22 AM

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raya decoration budget 2M
GpU for AI research? 2500




jojolicia
post Jul 16 2024, 08:24 AM

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UM wor. You must be joking 🤭

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Roadwarrior1337
post Jul 16 2024, 08:27 AM

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Biasala

When u hire jokers and clown to shape the future of Malaysia via next generation

I applied mba there and kena reject coz quota penuh

So thank god
SUSNihonmaru
post Jul 16 2024, 08:31 AM

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JasonthegreatTWO
post Jul 16 2024, 08:37 AM

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next - kita buang student tu
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post Jul 16 2024, 08:38 AM

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Malaysia when during launching very gempak 1… after launch krik krik krik….
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post Jul 16 2024, 08:39 AM

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"gotta spend that research allocation so that next year don't get reduced" kind of environment I guess
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post Jul 16 2024, 08:41 AM

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The problem is endemic in malaysia. In bahasa malay, tenat.

1. We pump money into relijen
2. For maruah (dun want admit they failed), money is spend on redundancy. LCS ship? Juz tip of ice berg.
3. Overspend on over priced procurement. Is dis even secrets anymore?
4. Rasuah.
5. Oversized civil service.
6. Reject talents bcuz they are non.

Results? Malaysia.
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post Jul 16 2024, 08:41 AM

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"Hey, maybe we should have our own GPU clusters so that we can actually do research instead of having the blockchain lab, filled with a ton of GPUS, rot there"?

I'm certain there are or most lecturers there had this questions back then or even now.

either no one wants to step up because of their workload or have other more important projects/grants to attend to

unless got incentive from the uni/gov, I think no one will want to take charge

more to budget and human resources (no staff willing) punya masalah, but I can at least 70-80% certain it is about budget
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post Jul 16 2024, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jul 16 2024, 08:22 AM)
raya decoration budget 2M
GpU for AI research? 2500
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ala, grafik kad kan murah? kad sj.
alextan99
post Jul 16 2024, 08:59 AM

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b i t c h is complaining about 80 bucks a month? Get a life
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post Jul 16 2024, 09:09 AM

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how many of you in the class?

might because UM dont have budget for that department

next time go to UNIVERSITY TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA.
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post Jul 16 2024, 09:10 AM

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This is my experience when i was a Research Assistant in a local Uni last time. I can only wonder if it has become worse...

1) Simply apply for gov grant by using ideas from the Iranian/Middle East students
2) Get the grant, but some of the money the lecturer will songlap. Not sure how maybe through salaries/crony vendors etc.
3) Just barely do some research to publish a paper or two in a low impact journal/publication
4) Lecturer misuse the money to "present" the paper in a foreign country
5) ???
6) Profit and rinse and repeat

@azarimy, maybe you can clarify this if i am wrong.

alexandersuk
post Jul 16 2024, 09:17 AM

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They have money but I bet all money are used for something else or got songlap by top management.
You know I know la.
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post Jul 16 2024, 09:19 AM

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Maybe funding was siphoned away halfway through to feed various groups of untouchables.
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post Jul 16 2024, 09:36 AM

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The last I know comp science was a popular course in UM. Those top birds from stpm or matriculation were usually aiming medicine, dentistry, law, ME, CE ,EE, architect, actuarial, accounting, business, and economy.

But thoooooose were the time la.. things could have changed.
muhammadb
post Jul 16 2024, 09:53 AM

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If someone really want to learn AI, they can just go online and find the resources if they really want to and join those AI community such as "Hugging Face". Traditional academia is where people go and learn basic and foundation of computer science and tech. AI is cutting edge, it is just too fast for "traditional academia" to chase it.

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