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post Apr 16 2025, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Apr 14 2025, 03:32 PM)
hi, i am a returning player. with the upcoming 1.7 banner i am confused who should i pull. i feel like i need a better dps as my current dps choices are only ellen and soldier 11 and i dont think i want hugo should i go for jane? or try to get zhu yuan within this week? i also just pulled trigger
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1.7 releases are virtually useless if one, you do not lean heavily into the anomaly playstyle, and two, if you have a serviceable Ice unit to get the job done.

Vivian is strictly a unit intended to elevate the rest of her anomaly peers' damage ceiling. If you've never been into the Anomaly trend, or do not care much for that playstyle, you're better off without her.

Hugo is a tricky one, I believe he got buffed during beta but is simply shaping up to be on Sanby's power level. He isn't going to be powercreeping Miyabi and is strictly a character that people will pull out of love. His gimmick is detonating large amounts of damage during the stun window. Even so, I think these two are in a massively tricky spot with anni patch dropping in 2.0...

Yi Xuan aka the girl in the pv thumbnail is rumored to be of a new Ether role, at which point you would have seen beta leaks and what not. Honestly, I say skip Vivian based on your roster, KIV Hugo but mostly leaning toward skipping. And just prepare for 2.0.


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post Apr 16 2025, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Apr 16 2025, 08:48 AM)
waiting until 2.0 is too long haha using only ellen now abit bored of the game play already.. unless i build my soldier 11
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Do that instead. The 1.X trend has skewed heavily toward making Anomaly units meta so much that they introduced several powerhouse Anomaly units back to back, i.e.: Jane, Burnice, Yanagi, and Miyabi in that order.

If you're looking for something exciting to play, you missed out with Miyabi's debut but rumor has it she returns 2.0. Of the 4 units, Vivian is intended to benefit Jane and Yanagi the most, because Phys has been off-meta for several patches, and Yanagi is starting to show signs of falling off in power. Burnice is Burnice, being an off-field agent, she has better value, but doesn't particularly synergize with the two. Hence, the former's release.

We'll be in a filler patch come next Wed, it really isn't worth throwing your tapes in for a moment of instant gratification.
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post Apr 16 2025, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Apr 16 2025, 03:27 PM)
since i already have koleda and m6 lucy my s11 is m1 i guess i will build this team and wait for 2.0 i guess
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Might sound crass, but you fucked up massively returning post-1.5 biggrin.gif . There was Evelyn and Astra, and I think you would have enjoyed the two since one happens to be the game's top DPS unit just right behind Miyabi, and the latter is a broken support on par with Caesar.

Sounds like you enjoy the ATK class immensely, and have a thing for Ice and Fire units. Evelyn would have fit the bill for Fire.
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post Apr 16 2025, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Apr 16 2025, 05:07 PM)
yeah i feel like i returned at the wrong time but i guess its still enjoyable.. i wont say i enjoy atk class i just have no choice lol.

i dont like how s11 play. another choice will be getting vivian and since piper will be in the banner i will likely run piper vivian and lucy and save for 2.0. thats only if i dont lose 5050
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Yeah, Vivi + Piper works. This is the reason I run Anomaly team comps over Attackers because they require Stunners and Supports to function effectively. It requires thrice the work to gear these units.

Whereas Anomaly team comps are simply 2 Anoms + 1 Support to line up Disorders back-to-back, with no required investment whatsoever for most anomaly units in their talents. Be warned however. Piper is energy-intensive and requires animation canceling to get the most mileage out of her spin.


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post Apr 20 2025, 04:00 PM

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Practicing Typhoon Destroyer on it's final day of the DA cycle.

Yanagi Hypercarry comp

1024kbps Link expires 2 days from DOP tongue.gif.

Tryna hit the max score of 65k is funnnn
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post Apr 20 2025, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 20 2025, 05:15 PM)
i vaguely remember played this before but i only focused on getting rewards, not high scores.
very impressive with yanagi, im focusing with Miyabi first, after getting her skills up to certain level, then i will change to Yanagi
as both agents have their own w-engine, other will have to wait

dang im playing on 720p... at 30fps
my expensive tablet very difficult to game lol
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One of the many reasons I enjoy Yanagi. Masterful parries will let you remain on-field for days unless it's to swap the support for debuffs and setting up.

The could be better considering I'm an M6 Yanagi, but getting Typhoon Destroyer's animations down to a pat is a little tricky. Still happy nonetheless.

Seems like Deadly Assault is the benchmark for performances now, and the only reason Yanagi is still considered A tier is her ability to 65k the content, which no other Electric DPS can effortlessly. She is starting to show early signs of struggling. Even Jane Doe is widely considered unimpressive as a hypercarry and needs to play Disorders to bounce back, also in part because DA hasn't recycled any phys-weak content.

Miyabi is Miyabi and doesn't have issues considering her overtuned numbers.
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post Apr 22 2025, 10:44 PM

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Worth watching for folks planning to go for Vivian.

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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Apr 23 2025, 10:28 AM)
won 5050 got new waifu yeah
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You mean Vivian? Grats!
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post Apr 28 2025, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 26 2025, 04:57 PM)
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I'm glad they didn't completely ditching the TV mode, welp, completely redesign will ruin the game quality
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Well, they're not removing TV mode exploration for the older stages, that said, they are gonna move forward without said mode.

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post May 6 2025, 01:54 PM

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1024kbps Yixuan

Watch this within 2 days of this posting.
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post May 12 2025, 03:41 PM

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Finally pulled Vivian over the weekend. Could have pushed to M4, but W-Engine fucked me over. They say you're less likely to lose W-Engines considering it's 75-25 rate, but I've never had any success insofar lol. Meanwhile, my Vivian pulls went super well. Luck was a slow to catch on, but won all 50-50s, so M3.

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post May 12 2025, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 12 2025, 04:23 PM)
thank you for your generous funding to hoyoverse sweat.gif  tongue.gif
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Just months of hoarding after M6 Yanagi, lol.
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post May 16 2025, 07:15 PM

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Woohoooooo. 65k DA
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post May 18 2025, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 17 2025, 10:44 PM)
playing on pc with xbox controller?
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Yeah. Clicking this much in a game will wear out my gaming mouse sooner than I care to replace it for the third time. Also leads to potential Carpal Tunnel.

You'd be surprised how quickly Genshin and ZZZ wear your mouse down during endgame content. Hence, the investment in a GuliKit controller. Also feels more intuitive with swapping and def assisting.

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 18 2025, 03:05 PM)
Had ps4 controller before, but setting up can be quite a hassle, eventually sold off with the console together.
Until now playing exclusively with kbm.

i need to find way to play on my galaxy tab, otherwise this tab is no good for gaming, my htpc can only play games predates 2015 lol
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I recommend investing in a PC gaming controller. Someone recommended GuliKit to me and I haven't had any problems with it. Pretty durable and reasonable price point too. Don't really think it's a good idea to play ZZZ on tab because it is SO action-packed. Genshin's fine, but ZZZ might wear out your touch screen quickly imo.

QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 18 2025, 03:12 PM)
i wonder if there's any good support beside astra lol

either wait for rerun or just pick alexandrina once standard banner hit 300...
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Astra's as meta as supports get and I have a feeling she'll probably stay that way for several expansions like Kazuha, but I could be wrong.

What I do given my limited supports is have Astra support weaker teams, and M6 Yanagi brute force the other half. Particularly with DA, and SD where you simply need two teams to get all the chromes, Yanagi + now Vivian is core for me. Accompanying the team is probably Rina for her passive and the occasional EX/Chain Attack for PEN buff uptime.

Then Piper + Nicole + Astra. Admittedly, this cycle's CA required me to swap Vivian into Piper's team in place of Nicole to hit 20k. Tried the former lineup with Butcher in Deadly Assault, couldn't hit 19k no matter how hard I tried. The moment I swapped in Vivian, the score skyrocketed to 40k with suboptimal rots. It's a Piper issue, whatwith energy being a thing and the Butcher going invisible.

Assuming the anni selector is restricted to standard banner and timed, and with no new units being inducted into Standard, you can opt for Rina or Lycoan, I don't really think the rest are worth your time. Lycoan is still great with Ice DPS and a core for Miyabi mono-ice. Rina for mono-Shock.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 18 2025, 09:28 PM)
the problem is i have to buy another PC lol
Android platform can be very good at gaming now, but the devs and google never push the idea, only some fully support.
the hardware itself already can support quite a lot of accessories, most highend phone plus tablet support kbm out of box
plug it into usb dock you get to use it like a PC, it is just most game dont really support real mouse and kb interaction.

why i have to buy PC/console to game when most android system already can support it?

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My ancient op7T pro can just plug into usb dock, can even support GBE but need to use older realtek USB GBE.
the platform is ready but software support are lackluster, otherwise google cam be major gaming platform, people higher up there are definitely lost about gaming.
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Ooooh, I didn't know you could do that. So you're telling me you can operate and play ZZZ on your tablet the way you do on PC? IIRC, GuliKit controller has a wireless setting too, so there's that if you're seeking another reason to get it.
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post May 19 2025, 06:09 PM

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ready your Yixuan stonks 1024kbps they hardselling YX and JFF hard kek.
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post May 20 2025, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 19 2025, 09:17 PM)
dem versioning jump lol 1.7 straight to 2.0
someone at hoyo got their math from micro$oft

had my best pull for hsoh agents and vivian, hopefully next one wont be cat girl
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JFF and Pan Yin Hu are strictly made to support YX, unless they roll out further Annihilation units in the foreseeable future. And also with YX scaling with HP% > HP > ATK% > ATK, with ATK stats being highly undesirable with her, Astra won't make much of a difference supporting her. Yixuan is basically just HP% damage dealer with reliance on crit substats. If you have plans to make YX a staple, JFF is a must lol.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 24 2025, 05:05 PM)
Welp just get xy first
Jff and astra can get later lol...

If shat happens eg got cat girl again
Will just get whatever come first
They need to release some good 4s support like what hsr/gi can offer

My team now are all atk or anomaly...
I can't game any longer as I'm suspected to have carpal tunnel syndrome, both hands has been getting numb feeling on fingers, joints are pains as well have to cracks to ease the pain
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Real sorry to hear that. Have you consulted the physiotherapist? Carpal tunnel can be managed with consistent stretches and exercises. Best to nip it in the bud before it spirals into permanent nerve damage. I thought I had carpal tunnel too until I consulted a physio and confirmed my sensations were a result of stiff shoulder muscles that weren't mobilized long-term. It's just aging frankly, but I recommend seeing physios, and if you already have, seek a second opinion. Long-term treatments are expensive for sure, but you'll avoid larger billl.

Also haven't pulled for YX. Dumped everything into Vivian's banner for M3 + W1. But invested in IKM to hedge. Currently sitting 100 pulls, will see what happens come YX banner end. Don't know if I can do YX + JFF b2b.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jun 8 2025, 07:26 PM)
I can only game when I'm on sick leave lol
Been like this for 6 years, my job is demanding, physical and mental
i have stiff shoulder as well neck, foot joint pain, the list goes on...
I'm in Singapore where medical bill is crazily high, probably will seek treatment elsewhere
Need to get armrest, but for now I don't game for prolonged hours, I usually rest between map, or shorter period, I get tried very fast due to visual impairment too, damn I'm old dog now lol

I'm not sure whether to get astra for now or wait for jff, both are lower priority for now as story quest don't really need to beef up the team, already depleted my chrome
Too many atk, too little support
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Astra is a universal support that will benefit anyone, even if she's not Yi Xuan's most optimal support. JFF probably exists to help YX as we discussed. That reminds me, some guides on YX for those trying to figure out her rots.




Also, ZZZ just revealed their drip.

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S-rank phys support. Alice aka the rabbit girl from livestream is in 2.1 too I read, will see when her drip happens tomorrow.

For real though, I recommend consulting a physio, or travel down to JB for weekly treatments. Better late than never.

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