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post Jul 9 2024, 09:20 AM, updated 2y ago

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20K got?
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post Jul 9 2024, 09:21 AM

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tanya ChatGPT
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QUOTE(kimochi ii @ Jul 9 2024, 09:21 AM)
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how much ud54 doctor earns?
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The salary of a doctor can vary widely depending on factors such as their specialty, experience, location, and type of employment (private practice, hospital-employed, academic, etc.).

Without more specific information about the type of doctor (specialty) and the region or country where they work, it's challenging to provide an exact figure. In some regions, doctors specializing in high-demand fields or in affluent areas can earn significantly more than others.

If you have more details about the type of doctor or the location, I could provide a more tailored estimate.
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post Jul 9 2024, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(raynmann @ Jul 9 2024, 09:20 AM)
20K got?
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Depend how long he or she work.

At minimum of 9 years experience, he/she just earn about RM8k.
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post Jul 9 2024, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 09:28 AM)
Depend how long he or she work.

At minimum of 9 years experience, he/she just earn about RM8k.
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are you crazy? rm8k only? age 45
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post Jul 9 2024, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(raynmann @ Jul 9 2024, 09:29 AM)
are you crazy? rm8k only? age 45
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Age 33-34 already can get ud54.
Age 45 already ud56 or JUSA if he/she got qualification.

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post Jul 9 2024, 09:34 AM

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UD 54 is just MO lol

definitely less than 10k
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post Jul 9 2024, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(raynmann @ Jul 9 2024, 09:26 AM)
how much ud54 doctor earns?
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The salary of a doctor can vary widely depending on factors such as their specialty, experience, location, and type of employment (private practice, hospital-employed, academic, etc.).

Without more specific information about the type of doctor (specialty) and the region or country where they work, it's challenging to provide an exact figure. In some regions, doctors specializing in high-demand fields or in affluent areas can earn significantly more than others.

If you have more details about the type of doctor or the location, I could provide a more tailored estimate.
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This is true also.

If UD54 work in office is different salary.
If work in Sarawak different salary.
If work in peninsular different salary.
If work in pusat jantung different salary.
If u are under contract, different salary.
If have cert, different salary..
a lot variable.
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post Jul 9 2024, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 9 2024, 09:34 AM)
UD 54 is just MO lol

definitely less than 10k
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When govt want to increase govt servant salary, majority k/tard will ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif mad.gif mad.gif

When I reveal their salary; k/tard said I am crazy.. haha...
The truth is govt doctor not earn much also... Underpaid for very long time...
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post Jul 9 2024, 09:47 AM

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54 is low

My younger sis, doc specialist. HOD at gomen hosp…

Already hit her max job grade before JUSA. Basic + all allowance…

Almost rm20k
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 10:45 AM)
When govt want to increase govt servant salary, majority k/tard will  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

When I reveal their salary; k/tard said I am crazy.. haha...
The truth is govt doctor not earn much also... Underpaid for very long time...
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Gomen iron rice bowl lar. Rm10k in gomen cant compared to private.

Some more guaranteed pension after retire(for older gomen system)

My younger sis and her hubby pretty gungho with spending in props and vehicles.

As long as can still deduct from payslip they whack jer 😅😂


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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 09:49 AM)
Gomen iron rice bowl lar. Rm10k in gomen cant compared to private.

Some more guaranteed pension after retire(for older gomen system)

My younger sis and her hubby pretty gungho with spending in props and vehicles.

As long as can still deduct from payslip they whack jer 😅😂
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>95% doctor no or not take pension. yr sis & husband not a doctor.

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post Jul 9 2024, 09:54 AM

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just do locum, easy min RM500/day

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 09:28 AM)
Depend how long he or she work.

At minimum of 9 years experience, he/she just earn about RM8k.
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that's basic? if plus allowance how much?
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jul 9 2024, 09:54 AM)
that's basic? if plus allowance how much?
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Basic just RM6K++
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post Jul 9 2024, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 09:47 AM)
54 is low

My younger sis, doc specialist. HOD at gomen hosp…

Already hit her max job grade before JUSA. Basic + all allowance…

Almost rm20k
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like this dr sudah 45 but ketua wor... sure high salary





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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 09:55 AM)
Basic just RM6K++
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aww.... that's dissapointing sad.gif sad.gif
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post Jul 9 2024, 09:58 AM

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so no wonder all go private......
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sad lar... we need increase dr salary for govn... they are our heros
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 10:53 AM)
>95% doctor no or not take pension. yr sis & husband not a doctor.
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Lol statistic coming out of your assumption?

Got 3 sibling as dr in gomen. 4 if count with the bro in law.

All of them take pension except my youngest sis.
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QUOTE(raynmann @ Jul 9 2024, 10:56 AM)
like this dr sudah 45 but ketua wor... sure high salary
https://moh.gov.my/index.php/edirectory/staff/5224
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Some dr in the service rise quite fast.

My younger sis quite bright. Late 20s or early 30s already get her blood transfusion specialist.

Late 30s already become HOD.

Not everyone is that lucky though.


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post Jul 9 2024, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 10:00 AM)
Lol statistic coming out of your assumption?

Got 3 sibling as dr in gomen. 4 if count with the bro in law.

All of them take pension except my youngest sis.
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U can google & had been in news for years.
Very rare doctor take pension bcoz job opportunity in private sector & hectic life in govt hospital
Some open their own clinic, some freelancer locum, some work in private hospital.
The reason why govt hospital lack of specialist.

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 11:07 AM)
U can google & had been in news for years.
Very rare doctor take pension bcoz job opportunity in private sector & hectic life in govt hospital
Some open their own clinic, some freelancer locum, some work in private hospital.
The reason why govt hospital lack of specialist.
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Your personal assumption argument 90-95% of all gomen dr dont take pension is already greatly flawed.

All want to make money by locum, going private, etc2 this is all just your personal assumption and you think all dr think your way.

Not all dr is hardcore money minded.

Thus i can also make an assumption out of my ass.

Your not a doc and just talking shit.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 10:00 AM)
Lol statistic coming out of your assumption?

Got 3 sibling as dr in gomen. 4 if count with the bro in law.

All of them take pension except my youngest sis.
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Why your parents don't tibai you?

"Max!! See all your siblings become doctor, how come you tabuli? Shamefur dispray!!!"
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 10:00 AM)
Lol statistic coming out of your assumption?

Got 3 sibling as dr in gomen. 4 if count with the bro in law.

All of them take pension except my youngest sis.
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Anneh, u no main jadi loktor?
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QUOTE(raynmann @ Jul 9 2024, 09:20 AM)
20K got?
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Almost 20K
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 10:27 AM)
Your personal assumption argument 90-95% of all gomen dr dont take pension is already greatly flawed.

All want to make money by locum, going private, etc2 this is all just your personal assumption and you think all dr think your way.

Not all dr is hardcore money minded.

Thus i can also make an assumption out of my ass.

Your not a doc and just talking shit.
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It just yr assumption that govt doctor take pension.

The truth is employment turnover is very high in hospital.
Thousands of doctor resign from their post every years.
Waiting list to meet specialist very long due to lack of specialist.
Many doctor quit their job, some even migrate to foreign country.
Doctor can do that bcoz majority not take pension. Not like PTD..
This already discuss a lot of times in parliament.

But poeple like u ignorance even there are a lot fact around u..
It not about money minded but balance of life- family & work..

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jul 9 2024, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 09:45 AM)
When govt want to increase govt servant salary, majority k/tard will  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

When I reveal their salary; k/tard said I am crazy.. haha...
The truth is govt doctor not earn much also... Underpaid for very long time...
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KKM seRinggit problem.
Year to year contract how to get better pay?
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jul 9 2024, 10:40 AM)
KKM seRinggit problem.
Year to year contract how to get better pay?
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Contract normally for housemen. Only few MO under contract basis.

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 10:00 AM)
Lol statistic coming out of your assumption?

Got 3 sibling as dr in gomen. 4 if count with the bro in law.

All of them take pension except my youngest sis.
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Wah anneh lifetime free medical consultation like this...
Only need to pay for medicine
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 10:53 AM)
>95% doctor no or not take pension. yr sis & husband not a doctor.
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Show me proven gov statistic >95% gomen doc do not take pension. If its just coming out of your ass personal bias assumption.

I hope you dont get to be a specialist all your life. Putting lives at stake based on your personal bias assumption is where many horror stories botched procedure happen in gomen hosp.

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 11:00 AM)
Show me proven gov statistic >95% gomen doc do not take pension. If its just coming out of your ass personal bias assumption.

I hope you dont get to be a specialist all your life. Putting lives at stake based on your personal bias assumption is where many horror stories botched procedure happen in gomen hosp.
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Why not u provide govt statistic about doctor take pension.

We already know how many contract given every years & resignation numbers.
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 12:12 PM)
Why not u provide govt statistic about doctor take pension.

We already know how many contract given every years & resignation numbers.
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It is not me who claim such figure. It is you who claim > 95% gomen doc dont take pension.

Now show me the 95% proven statistic from the KKM and gomen site, mr talk shit fake doctor

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 10:43 AM)
Contract normally for housemen. Only few MO under contract basis.
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Where a few?
Many la.
Many also tak boleh tahan yearly contract with NO future so lari join other company.
Hospital now short staff, doctors lari, nurses lari, lab tech lari and other professionals staff pun lari!
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 11:15 AM)
It is mot me who claim such figure. It is you who claim > 95% gomen doc dont take pension.

Now show me the 95% proven statistic from the KKM and gomen site, mr talk shit fake doctor
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https://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news/229603...says-dzulkefly/

More than half doctor already left public sector.
They still resign every year until now bcoz they not binded to pension.
This already majority.
The one who still in govt mostly also EPF & can resign anytime..
Why so hard to accept the truth..
Menteri explanation & newspaper is everywhere la about this..

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jul 9 2024, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 09:35 AM)
This is true also.

If UD54 work in office is different salary.
If work in Sarawak different salary.
If work in peninsular different salary.
If work in pusat jantung different salary.
If u are under contract, different salary.
If have cert, different salary..
a lot variable.
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Does woking in Sarawak get beter (higher) pay and more benefits compared to Semenanjung? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Jul 9 2024, 11:22 AM)
Does woking in Sarawak get beter (higher) pay and more benefits compared to Semenanjung?  hmm.gif
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Yes.
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Jul 9 2024, 11:22 AM)
Does woking in Sarawak get beter (higher) pay and more benefits compared to Semenanjung?  hmm.gif
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If you from Peninsular got more allowance & other benefits.

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 12:20 PM)
https://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news/229603...says-dzulkefly/

More than half doctor already left public sector.
They still resign every year until now bcoz they not binded to pension.
This already majority.
The one who still in govt mostly also EPF & can resign anytime..
Why so hard to accept the truth..
Menteri explanation & newspaper is everywhere la about this..
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54% is not 95%. Wheres your 95%?? Can I get in touch with your hosp Director to email and check this 95% you claim??
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 11:26 AM)
54% is not 95%. Wheres your 95%?? Can I get in touch with your hosp Director to email and check this 95% you claim??
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I used to work in KKM.

Yes, U can email to KKM director directly.
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 12:30 PM)
I used to work in KKM.

Yes, U can email to KKM director directly.
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Syukurlah.

Good riddance.

Good stay as GP in the private clinic.
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 10:39 AM)
It just yr assumption that govt doctor take pension.

The truth is employment turnover is very high in hospital.
Thousands of doctor resign from their post every years.
Waiting list to meet specialist very long due to lack of specialist.
Many doctor quit their job, some even migrate to foreign country.
Doctor can do that bcoz majority not take pension. Not like PTD..
This already discuss a lot of times in parliament.

But poeple like u ignorance even there are a lot fact around u..
It not about money minded but balance of life- family & work..
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True, my sister did ask some of the new comer doctor and most of them are taking EPF scheme, they treat government job as stepping stone into private sector.

Can't blame them actually when they planning their career, most of the female doctors just working several years with KKM and later on jadi locum for stable life when they are married. They can't stand with the long working hours in government and peanuts pay.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 11:31 AM)
Syukurlah.

Good riddance.

Good stay as GP in the private clinic.
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Thank you.
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 11:20 AM)
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Menteri explanation & newspaper is everywhere la about this..
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A few years before MCO, Menteri everyday preach too many health workers.
But they don't visit GH every morning 7am and see thousands of patients waiting hours for their appointment.
If there is a law that says MP/Adun & their immediate family can only seek medical treatment in gomen hospitals, failure to do so will lose their seat.
Overnight they will be clamouring for more health workers, better facilities, better working conditions & overall major improvement!

KKM seRinggit fiasco!!
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jul 9 2024, 11:32 AM)
A few years before MCO, Menteri everyday preach too many health workers.
But they don't visit GH every morning 7am and see thousands of patients waiting hours for their appointment.
If there is a law that says MP/Adun & their immediate family can only seek medical treatment in gomen hospitals, failure to do so will lose their seat.
Overnight they will be clamouring for more health workers, better facilities, better working conditions & overall major improvement!

KKM seRinggit fiasco!!
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lel, VIP got special treatment in gomen hospital la, can cut queue. got VIP room too.
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duno bout the data, but my circle of doktor frens in gov, 100% amik epf. haha. mostly ladies tho. alot of talk bout low pay, yes the pay is very low. but its the same in all professional schemes like accountant, engineer, lawyer etc. severly underpaid in gov. but only doctors are getting the attention. dont forget doctors have a super fast track time based promotion compared to other skims.

probably jpa have to set the salary based on tier. complex job like doctor with highest tier salary.
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QUOTE(raynmann @ Jul 9 2024, 09:20 AM)
20K got?
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UD54 is the highest non specialist, non JUSA gred for doctors

i dont think can reach 20k/mth, more to 12-14k if really senior
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QUOTE(raynmann @ Jul 9 2024, 09:20 AM)
20K got?
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NO
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 09:31 AM)
Age 33-34 already can get ud54.
Age 45 already ud56 or JUSA if he/she got qualification.
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JUSA is not based on age but based on availability of "JUSA Slot"

Once a slot is available the most senior ones gets it (of course there is the "non existence" quota stuff as well)
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 09:47 AM)
54 is low

My younger sis, doc specialist. HOD at gomen hosp…

Already hit her max job grade before JUSA. Basic + all allowance…

Almost rm20k
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Quite kesian also, specialist and still below 20k.

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 9 2024, 09:35 AM)
This is true also.

If UD54 work in office is different salary.
If work in Sarawak different salary.
If work in peninsular different salary.
If work in pusat jantung different salary.
If u are under contract, different salary.
If have cert, different salary..
a lot variable.
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Not much difference in term of salary

there is some impacts allowance specially if you work in Borneo


Cert impacts only if you are specialist or subspecialist (doc context) but that also does not bump that high
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This is UD52 (~11 years service)

Basic RM 6971
ITP RM 700
ITK RM 600
BIW RM 870
BPK RM 750

UD54 probably just add the yearly raise RM290 to the current basic salary.

Junior specialist probably add 2 more allowances (~RM2500 + RM2000)

You think worth or not staying in gomen ~11 yrs still not even rm10k
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QUOTE(Halibut @ Jul 9 2024, 04:29 PM)
43 years old now ud54 earning 13k.
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pre or post tax/deductions?
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QUOTE(raynmann @ Jul 9 2024, 09:56 AM)
like this dr sudah 45 but ketua wor... sure high salary
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Not necessary depends which hospital you work in.


Mostly most senior Specialist will be the HOD


you can be HOD in Borneo but once you are transferred to Semenanjung you will be just a normal specialist
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post Jul 9 2024, 04:33 PM

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I think can reach 16K and that doesn't include on call allowances.

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post Jul 9 2024, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2024, 10:00 AM)
Lol statistic coming out of your assumption?

Got 3 sibling as dr in gomen. 4 if count with the bro in law.

All of them take pension except my youngest sis.
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New Gen mostly take KWSP because your salary once you go private is minimum x2.5 of your government salary (inclusive of all the allowance)
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post Jul 9 2024, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Jul 9 2024, 11:22 AM)
Does woking in Sarawak get beter (higher) pay and more benefits compared to Semenanjung?  hmm.gif
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Yes. allowance is higher but cost of living is also higher ( if those things are mfg in Semenanjung)
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post Jul 9 2024, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(SerioseCat @ Jul 9 2024, 04:21 PM)
UD54 is the highest non specialist, non JUSA gred for doctors

i dont think can reach 20k/mth, more to 12-14k if really senior
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may be should bring the Age & UD in to the context.


if ur UD54 but age near pencen your salary will be around 16-20k ( i think)

But if you juts naik UD54 most likely around 8-10K

GoV you serve x number of year u naik gred not exactly based on performance.

if you are performer ( kipas or actual performer) then you may naik cepat a bit bit will come to ceiling faster
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post Jul 9 2024, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(SerioseCat @ Jul 9 2024, 04:31 PM)
pre or post tax/deductions?
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UD 54 Gov monthly tax tak sampai 1000 la. Something like 500-700 only

so thier take away will be 90% -95% of gaji kasar
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QUOTE(SerioseCat @ Jul 9 2024, 04:31 PM)
pre or post tax/deductions?
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Pcb 1.1k.

 

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