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post May 21 2008, 01:04 PM

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icic.....hehe...so she'll be a chinese golden lab lor.lolz...mine will be english gr...

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post May 21 2008, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(HolyCross @ May 21 2008, 03:15 PM)
wow thanks..if i never ask here..i have already buy the dog..no wonder he selling for only RM650 hmm.gif
any more advice before i buy golden retriver or labrador??
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do research more and you'll find what you want.you can go to this site www.dogbreedinfo.com for more information.best to buy from breeder and see the parents of the pup then you'll get some idea how the pup will look like when he or she grows up.ask breeder questions like how to clean ear,or how to detect if he's sick ,when pup is sick,it won't be so lively and tail will go down(if u know what i mean) and etc...
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post May 21 2008, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Lovely_Gal @ May 21 2008, 04:55 PM)
RM 650 only?  hmm.gif  With MKA cert or without? If without cert, the parents got cert or not? RM650 is quite cheap for a labrador if it got cert. biggrin.gif My golden lab also need RM600  biggrin.gif
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lovely_gal,it doesn't matter if parents are with MKA or nt coz the puppies like in your case,won't have cert coz already cross-breed already.and you can't enter your dog to mka competition if you wanted to.i don't think RM 650 is with cert.usually it's without the cert.even it's RM 650 for a puppy,must see the pup's condition in health wise,temperament and see whether your money is worth buying it or not.

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post May 21 2008, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(dennishew2004 @ May 21 2008, 05:47 PM)
about GR puppy (50 days), is it normal the poo, is it normal that the color of it is yellowish?& its a bit watery..

need u guys opinion/verify, is this dog look like a GR or Lab?
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nice gr pup you got there....definitely a gr.
50 days like 2 months old?i'm not sure bout the poo ler...should ask someone else.coz i left my pup with the breeder till i come home this sunday.plus my hse under renovation,don't want him to run out from the house.so i'm not so sure.but it could be due to the kibbles u bought.what kibbles did you get for him/her?
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post May 21 2008, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Lovely_Gal @ May 21 2008, 05:46 PM)
Like what i said, if the labrador is RM650 with cert, then it is very cheap, In addition, HolyCross said that the stomach is bigger compare to other dog. I am not a vet so i am not sure but may be the dog is not that healthy. Btw, i am just asking whether the dog got cert or not and never ask him to buy the dog because of the price. smile.gif

But then, if RM650 without cert, i think it is consider as Market Price. Am i correct? But, you might not know whether it is really pure breed or mix breed. Because, some Pet House would not tell you even it is mix breed. A lot of people might not know how to differentiate the labrador or mix breed with they are small.

One of my fren got the dog online and the dog seems like a labrador when it is still young. But, when it is getting bigger, the dogs looks like spitz. I think the vet also told her that the dog is a mix breed. You will only know when the dog getting bigger. smile.gif
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i understand.i just give my opinion.pls don't misunderstand what i've just mentioned. if your friend bought it online,is it from msia?then surely can see the the parents ma.like me,i bought my ben from adpost but i went to the breeder's place to see the pup b4 buying and another bonus point is,i can get to see the parents which are very good breeds,good temperament,health wise and so on.but in your friend's case,i wouldn't know for sure coz you have to ask her for more information.
that's why i discourage buying dogs from pet shop.coz we wouldn't know for sure how's the parents like,whether they have skin conditions,health,temperament and whether they are pure breed or not.besides,they usually take the pups early weeks like 5 or 6 weeks from the mother.like my case,roxy,my rottweiler-doberman mix,i bought it from pet shop.the pet shop said she's purebreed and couldn't deny it that at first,she looks like a rottweiler but as she grew,she really don't look like a rottweiler but more to doberman.plus,she has long body and long legs.only the fur like a rottweiler.
besides,we all need to do research online more often about any dogs we wanna get as a companion.like labs and goldens,they have lots of differences in terms of fur,face,body.labs and goldens are more recognizable when they are young.hope i make it clear.


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QUOTE(dennishew2004 @ May 21 2008, 07:10 PM)
alpo 2 in 1, chicken....can GR drink nespray milk...
cos she looks like bored of dry food
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ahhh...you bought from supermarket ah?pls don't buy pet food from supermarkets.they are not good ler.the ingredients are not good for our furkids.feed them with premium quality food like addiction,canidae,eagle pack etc.those are good brands which you can find at pet shops.some pet shops may not have the pet food you wanted.but you can research your place and you can also view the food here www.dogfoodanalysis.com
nespray milk ah?i'm not sure ler...better feed her with multivitamins for fur (cod liver oil) and other supplements.
hope this helps


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post May 21 2008, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(HolyCross @ May 21 2008, 09:19 PM)
it that a lab or GR?
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that's a lab...
simchi you got a very nice lab.fala looks so cute and innocent.
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post May 22 2008, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ May 22 2008, 12:22 AM)
hi guyz...

wow.. suddenly so many memberz edi... hehe tongue.gif

my daisy (golden lab).. bought at rm850 wif MKA cert (but they said de cert need to wait around 6 months) btw; hope owners here can gif me some clarification.. smile.gif

i'm havin a slightly lil prob... my lab doesn't likes to bark.. any reason?
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hi there....your pup is golden mix with lab or just lab?confused....
if it's purebreed,it'll take some time till 6 months for it to process..how old is your pup?maybe she is too young.
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post May 22 2008, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ May 22 2008, 12:39 AM)
ohh... hehe tongue.gif

she'z a golden coloured labrador...

she was born on november '07.. 6 monthz old edi..
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oh i c.you can ask ur breeder whether the cert is ready or not oh
sometimes it's ready less than 6 months depends on the processing time lor...lolz
do u have any pics of her?would love to see lots of her.thanks
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post May 22 2008, 12:19 PM

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shushu is also very cute....
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post May 24 2008, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Lovely_Gal @ May 24 2008, 05:19 PM)
Then she likes to eat or not? Why you bought Bil Jac for her previously? Now she is eating which brand and when you started to change to another brand?
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hi lovely gal,my breeder fed my ben wit bil-jac too.however,i found that the ingredient has BHA ingredient which is not good for our dogs.don't know how to say but i did find out online bout it and found to be harmful to dogs and can cause cancer.that ingredient was also banned for human consumption too..just an info.maybe for now you can feed her with it but later can gradually change to better pet food.i'm getting canidae or proformance breeder pack.hope i clarify it ya....
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post May 25 2008, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ May 25 2008, 12:36 PM)
hi!!

i haf a retriever too... i'm feeding her PROFORMANCE too..  can i know wat's de price of breeder pack? is 15kg considered as breeder pack? thanks smile.gif
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hi there,i just bought proformance earlier.i bought proformance large breed puppy lamb and rice 15kg for rm 130 at Ipoh.As i was on my way back from KL,i just went there to buy.i'm not ipoh lang.i'm pg lang.they do have breeder pack which is 22kg of rm 150 but no stock for puppy.only got for adult lamb and rice.so i didn't buy lor...but probably next time i will buy it again.proformance has new packing plus new ingredients which i think it's way much better than last time.however i don't like the ingredient of salt added in.nevertheless,i couldn't afford to get solid gold holistic food which is rm 195 for 15kg.kind of out of my budget....
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post May 25 2008, 11:02 PM

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hi there....here's the link to the proformance site.
www.proformancepet.com
they've changed the ingredients and should be better than previous one.too bad the breeder pack for puppy (Purple one) finished already er...or else,i sure wanna get puppy packing.
mattchin,your proformance lamb n rice is it the old packing ah?new packing got husky face one....hehe
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post May 26 2008, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ May 25 2008, 11:15 PM)
nope...

plain purple... no picz behind de colour...
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oh okay...new packing arrived dy.maybe after your current finish,you can switch it already.hope my lil ben love it.coz he's on bil-jac previously.
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post May 26 2008, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Lovely_Gal @ May 26 2008, 10:20 AM)
Hehe... I saw it wrongly. Where can we get that in selangor area? Should we buy large breed puppy or puppy? The purple colour 1 for puppy is chicken, right? Red colour for larhe breed puppy is lamb from the web site. Am i right? Thinking of getting a sample pack cause don't know my choi choi like it or not.. Now she don't take BlackWood and Bil Jac. She only eat the cooked pork... sad.gif

Cause she is sick and vomit, then we have to give her what she want first. Wait she is better already then we will start to give her kibbles but that 2 brand she don't want dy.. =.=||

Planning to get another 1 that she like.. She is so picky.. sad.gif
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yes lovely gal.that's the one.some shops may still sell the old packing and offer lower price.but for my case,all old packing sold out.so i bought the new one.i have a suggestion.why not feed some vege for choi choi too instead only pork?feed her with it with rice also.don't need to add salt or chicken stalk(the chicken cubes).mix mix it with the pork.summo it'll provide her better nutrients.my suggest of vege is bayam(spinach).

it is better to get canidae or solid gold or other brands.i'm not to say i don't like proformance,but it's so far the cheapest and within my budget at the moment.proformance is also alright coz it's also a premium brand.hope she gets better.
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post May 26 2008, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Lovely_Gal @ May 26 2008, 03:51 PM)
@insideurheaven

Please let me know the feedback after Ben take the Proformance. biggrin.gif Btw, i also from PG. My Choi choi very picky, now not sure which brand should i give her cause don't want to waste money... sad.gif
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hi there,i havent got the chance to bring ben home yet.i will most probably taking him home either tomorrow or wednesday.still need to unpack all my stuffs and ensuring my house is welcoming enough for him.besides,i would only can give the feedback to you after he had eaten it and also if he has any improvements in terms of skin,fur etc.you're from pg as well?
but staying in kl?
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post May 26 2008, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ May 26 2008, 06:01 PM)
i recommend u buy those 3.6kg packing where it's not too small o too big.. before u want ur dawgie to change pet food, make sure u don change directly... mix it wif de new 1.. this is bcz they will tend to poo in soft... (if u get wat i mean tongue.gif )

btw.. it's no good to feed a dawgie wif human food especially imported breed..
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hi matt,what do you mean by imported breed?actually they can eat meat since they are carnivores.besides,they are from the wolf family ma.
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post May 27 2008, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Lovely_Gal @ May 27 2008, 11:22 AM)
Yup, i am from PG but now working in KL. Hehe... biggrin.gif Post the feedback here after your Ben consume the Proformance. Oh ya... Ben is not with you now? Where is he?  unsure.gif
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oh i c.i left him with breeder.coz my house do renovation ma.scared he run out.i js came back from outstation.finished my studies already.
he should be alright with the food.coz my breeder also feeding proformance to his parents.

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post May 27 2008, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ May 27 2008, 11:39 AM)
i mean not local breed (pah lia dog).. u do some reading lah.. mostly ask u not to feed them wif human food de especially meat wif bones bcz it will hurt their stomach.. might cause internal injury n gone juz like tat w/o any symtom.. so it's dangerous
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ohhh...hmmph..i don't know if you know bout barf diet.you can have a look h ere.
http://www.rawmeatybones.com/book.php
http://rawfed.com/myths/
http://www.workingdogs.com/vcbarf.htm


[COLOR=red]INGREDIENTS TO BE SERIOUSLY LOOKED INTO WHEN YOU WANT TO BUY DOG KIBBLES

http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=badingredients

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post May 28 2008, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Lovely_Gal @ May 28 2008, 11:32 AM)
When the retriever is about 2 months old, they likes to bite? Will they very aggressive and tend to bite your hand and leg 1? They will bite everything they like, is it?

Any comment? Please share. Thanks. biggrin.gif
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normal la,lovely gal.didn't i mention in the other thread ah?they start teething ma.so get rubber toy like rubber bone or rubber duck for choi choi to chew on to curb her biting habits.if she bites ur hand,say firmly NO and beat gently on the side of her mouth.

just becareful of what she puts in her mouth.retreivers love putting things in their mouth.got some cases,goldens and labs ate shoe lace and terrible part is,when they wanna poo,the shoe lace got stuck in the butt.so u have to take it out lor.yea,shoe lace cannot digest so it'l come out anyways.so be careful lor.

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post May 28 2008, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Lovely_Gal @ May 28 2008, 02:29 PM)
Okok.. Got it~~ wink.gif Thanks. Coz my choi choi is like quite aggressive so i wonder.

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I would like to get more other comment ma, so ask the question here again~~ biggrin.gif
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oh i see.no problem.it's very normal for retrievers to react this way.actually all breeds including mixed breed dogs would also look aggresive in biting etc....they r js play bite but don't make it a habit for them to bite u.

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