Hello everyone, I'm looking for some advice. I met a girl online through a dating app, and we've been chatting on and off (once or twice a week). I've asked her out twice—once for lunch and another time for a movie. Lunch went alright, but the movie felt awkward. I want to take our relationship further. Should I keep asking her out until the awkwardness fades, or should I ask her directly if she has any feelings for me?

I went out with a girl around 6 times without any further action, she texted me saying that she has no feeling for me a while after the sixth date

Therefore I would recommend holding hands etc  in the third or fourth date

Hey, what makes you think it was awkward in the movie?
as in no talk and just watch the movie in silence? Isn't that what usually people do?
Actually if you know what kind of movie that she likes, you can watch that kind of movie with her. Then share your opinions and thoughts about it with her. Can ask for her opinions and comments too.

What about the lunch though? How was it? No awkward silence in between? Just constant chatting and asking questions and answering back and forth?

I saw in your replies that you guys have been chatting for months, so how has that been coming along? Was it all small talk or did you manage to learn anything about her?
Example what does she like to eat, like to do, places she wanna go and explore. Maybe instead of the movies, you can come up with sentences like 'Hey, I saw this xx place on TikTok or XHS, seems interesting. You said you like this kind of place right? Would you wanna go with me?"

Can try bringing her to zoo negara too maybe? If she likes animals and never been there before. You also can prepare a small portable fan, a bottle of water for her, some light food and an umbrella to use when you're there. It may show that you're thoughtful and caring also. But this really needs to come from within yourself. Not just for that day and then after she really becomes your girlfriend and you're not doing it anymore.

As for the bold part, I think it's too soon la. Afterall it has only been 2 outings. Maybe you can ask her whether does she feel there's any awkwardness between the both of you? Just don't ask about the feelings yet.

What about the lunch though? How was it? No awkward silence in between? Just constant chatting and asking questions and answering back and forth?

Can try bringing her to zoo negara too maybe? If she likes animals and never been there before. You also can prepare a small portable fan, a bottle of water for her, some light food and an umbrella to use when you're there. It may show that you're thoughtful and caring also. But this really needs to come from within yourself. Not just for that day and then after she really becomes your girlfriend and you're not doing it anymore.

As for breaking physical barrier: personally for me, I'm slow to warm up so too early would likely scare me away. I'm sure there's a spectrum and I might be on a far end, you'll just have to find that out what may work for her by observing her in person. If she touches you herself then I think that's a positive sign.

What did you all do for all the six dates? Just eat and chat?

If you are having a meal with a male friend and he taps your arm and ask you to pass the menu to him..will u be scared? What about a gentle elbow nudge? Or your knees or feet accidentally brushing his under the table?

Thats how I first break physical barrier with a girl. Not very scary to the girl I think.

Ahh, small "accidental" gestures are fine. What I had in my mind was an incident where I met someone I barely knew at a public function, we sat down and talked, and he proceeded to touch my thigh like holding for way too many seconds, and it was very uncomfortable to me. I was frozen in fear in that moment, but it's been so long, so it's not something I'd make a fuss anymore.. just that the fear is etched in my mind.

To many, I may be overreacting for a simple touch like that... But I wouldn't want any awkward sincere guy looking for love to be mistakenly taken for a pervert lol. So just saying this that if you wanna create accidental touches, that's fine until she realises you're faking it. If you're too nervous to be natural, then it means you yourself aren't ready to break the barrier.

Ahh, small "accidental" gestures are fine. What I had in my mind was an incident where I met someone I barely knew at a public function, we sat down and talked, and he proceeded to touch my thigh like holding for way too many seconds, and it was very uncomfortable to me. I was frozen in fear in that moment, but it's been so long, so it's not something I'd make a fuss anymore.. just that the fear is etched in my mind.

To many, I may be overreacting for a simple touch like that... But I wouldn't want any awkward sincere guy looking for love to be mistakenly taken for a pervert lol. So just saying this that if you wanna create accidental touches, that's fine until she realises you're faking it. If you're too nervous to be natural, then it means you yourself aren't ready to break the barrier.

Thats guy was a creep and a fail.

I recommend old school approach of gradual escalation.

Accidental touches first
Then Intentional but innocent touches
Only then can go for more intimate touch

Precondition is that the date must be going well and the girl is comfortable.

Most males of teenage years and some even into their early 20s will find it hard to keep their eyes and hands to themselves… blame biology and hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.

I actually think its the opposite.

Many young men are too scared to initiate touch with girls. Can see also from the many posts in this forum. Go out for for umpteenth times with a girl and nothing happened.

In their mind its the fear that if I touch her and she thinks its creepy, she wont want to see me again.

Perhaps, I guess. Things might have changed heaps since my time. My peers all used to say the same thing about their daughters… oh please don’t let karma dictate they (the daughters) end up with a boy like themselves in the past hahahaha

"Our" time u mean?  🤣  since Im also.your peer.

Main difference I think is the prevalance of social media. Social media makes the dating market far more competitve and has created higher/unreasonable standards.

That’s sexual harassment in my book

Bro, girl very simple! She like you, all OK!!!!!

Hahah... sorry bro, I keep thinking you're much younger than me! 

Dont worry, many ladies think that way too 😉