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Nearly 40% of web pages from 2013 are no longer ac, Maybe the internet doesn't last forever?
Nearly 40% of web pages from 2013 are no longer ac, Maybe the internet doesn't last forever?
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Jun 7 2024, 11:15 AM
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more occurrence of
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Jun 7 2024, 11:25 AM
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Sure die when google doesn't send you the traffic, if you notice, whenever you google search anything these days, the results are often something recent. Won't show you 10 year old things for example
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Jun 7 2024, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(xpole @ Jun 7 2024, 08:43 AM) Videos are mostly permanent to be honest Even if available it's probably not in its original HD source quality. Meaning you're watching some low quality version of the original that has been downloaded, re-uploaded and compressed till kingdom come.Your own sex video, your own jerk off video on webcam that you recorded in 2013 can still available. I have ex friend from uni recorded his sex video, the video still available the last time I accidentally found this year. |
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Jun 7 2024, 11:31 AM
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Jun 7 2024, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(xpole @ Jun 7 2024, 08:43 AM) Videos are mostly permanent to be honest Hmm... PM link for research and education purpose plsYour own sex video, your own jerk off video on webcam that you recorded in 2013 can still available. I have ex friend from uni recorded his sex video, the video still available the last time I accidentally found this year. |
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Jul 1 2024, 12:19 PM
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Jul 1 2024, 12:29 PM
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I would prefer not to challenges net citizens. Seems deleted but once u went retard citizens will upped u
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Jul 2 2024, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ Jul 1 2024, 12:19 PM) ![]() Source: https://variety.com/2024/music/opinion/disa...1236052577/amp/ |
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Aug 2 2024, 06:17 PM
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Aug 15 2024, 01:18 PM
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![]() Source:https://slate.com/technology/2024/08/david-zaslav-warner-bros-discovery-culture-deleting-movies-tv-shows.html |
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Aug 15 2024, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ Jun 7 2024, 08:36 AM) As China’s Internet disappears, ‘we lose parts of our collective memory’ Cultural Revolution 2.0By Li Yuan Wednesday, 05 Jun 2024 10:00 AM MYT Chinese people know their country’s Internet is different. There is no Google, YouTube, Facebook or Twitter. They use euphemisms online to communicate the things they are not supposed to mention. When their posts and accounts are censored, they accept it with resignation. They live in a parallel online universe. They know it and even joke about it. Now they are discovering that, beneath a facade bustling with short videos, livestreaming and ecommerce, their Internet – and collective online memory – is disappearing in chunks. A post on WeChat on May 22 that was widely shared reported that nearly all information posted on Chinese news portals, blogs, forums and social media sites between 1995 and 2005 was no longer available. “The Chinese Internet is collapsing at an accelerating pace,” the headline said. Predictably, the post itself was soon censored. “We used to believe that the Internet had a memory,” He Jiayan, a blogger who writes about successful businesspeople, wrote in the post. “But we didn’t realise that this memory is like that of a goldfish.” It’s impossible to determine exactly how much and what content has disappeared. But I did a test. I used China’s top search engine, Baidu, to look up some of the examples cited in He’s post, focusing on about the same time frame between the mid-1990s and mid-2000s. I started with Alibaba’s Jack Ma and Tencent’s Pony Ma, two of China’s most successful Internet entrepreneurs, both of whom He had searched for. I also searched for Liu Chuanzhi, known as the godfather of Chinese entrepreneurs, who made headlines when his company, Lenovo, acquired IBM’s personal computer business in 2005. I looked, too, for results for China’s top leader, Xi Jinping, who during the period was the governor of two big provinces. Search results of senior Chinese leaders are always closely controlled. I wanted to see what people could find if they were curious about what Xi was like before he became a national leader. I got no results when I searched for Ma Yun, which is Jack Ma’s name in Chinese. I found three entries for Ma Huateng, which is Pony Ma’s name. A search for Liu Chuanzhi turned up seven entries. There were zero results for Xi. Then I searched for one of the most consequential tragedies in China in the past few decades: the Great Sichuan earthquake on May 12, 2008, which killed over 69,000 people. It happened during a brief period when Chinese journalists had more freedom than the Communist Party would usually allow, and they produced a lot of high-quality journalism. When I narrowed the time frame to May 12, 2008, to May 12, 2009, Baidu came up with nine pages of search results, most of which consisted of articles on the websites of the central government or the state broadcaster Central Central Television. One caveat: If you know the names of the journalists and their organizations, you can find more. Each results page had about 10 headlines. My search found what had to have been a small fraction of the coverage at that time, much of which was published on the sites of newspapers and magazines that sent journalists to the epicenter of the earthquake. I didn’t find any of the outstanding news coverage or outpouring of online grief that I remembered. In addition to disappearing content, there’s a broader problem: China’s Internet is shrinking. There were 3.9 million websites in China in 2023, down more than one-third from 5.3 million in 2017, according to the country’s Internet regulator. China has one billion Internet users, or nearly one-fifth of the world’s online population. Yet the number of websites using Chinese language make up only 1.3% of the global total, down from 4.3% in 2013 – a 70% plunge over a decade, according to Web Technology Surveys, which tracks online use of top content languages. The number of Chinese language websites is now only slightly higher than those in Indonesian and Vietnamese, and smaller than those in Polish and Persian. It’s half the number of Italian language sites and just over a quarter of those in Japanese. One reason for the decline is that it is technically difficult and costly for websites to archive older content, and not just in China. But in China, the other reason is political. Internet publishers, especially news portals and social media platforms, have faced heightened pressure to censor as the country has made an authoritarian and nationalistic turn under Xi’s leadership. Keeping China’s cyberspace politically and culturally pure is a top order of the Communist Party. Internet companies have more incentive to over-censor and let older content disappear by not archiving. Many people have had their online existences erased. Two weeks ago, Nanfu Wang found that an entry about her on a Wikipedia-like site was gone. Wang, a documentary filmmaker, searched her name on the film review site Douban and came up with nothing. Same with WeChat. “Some of the films I directed had been deleted and banned on the Chinese Internet,” she said. “But this time, I feel that I, as a part of history, have been erased.” She doesn’t know what triggered it. Zhang Ping, better known by his pen name, Chang Ping, was one of China’s most famous journalists in the 2000s. His articles were everywhere. Then in 2011, his writing provoked the wrath of the censors. “My presence in public discourse has been stifled much more severely than I anticipated, and that represents a significant loss of my personal life,” he told me. “My life has been negated.” When my Weibo account was deleted in March 2021, I was saddened and angered. It had more than three million followers and thousands of posts recording my life and thoughts over a decade. Many of the posts were about current affairs, history or politics, but some were personal musings. I felt a part of my life had been carved away. Many people intentionally hide their online posts because they could be used against them by the party or its proxies. In a trend called “grave digging”, nationalistic “little pinks” pour over past online writings of intellectuals, entertainers and influencers. For Chinese, our online memories, even frivolous ones, can become baggage we need to unload. “Even though we tend to think of the Internet as somewhat superficial,” said Ian Johnson, a longtime China correspondent and author, “without many of these sites and things, we lose parts of our collective memory.” In Sparks, a book by Johnson about brave historians in China who work underground, he cited the Internet Archive for Chinese online sources in the endnotes because, he said, he knew they would all eventually disappear. “History matters in every country, but it really matters to the CCP,” he said, referring to the Chinese Communist Party. “It’s history that justifies the party’s continued rule.” Johnson founded the China Unofficial Archives website, which seeks to preserve blogs, movies and documents outside the Chinese Internet. There are other projects to save Chinese memories and history from falling into a void. Greatfire.org has several websites that provide access to censored content. China Digital Times, a nonprofit that fights censorship, archives work that has been or is in danger of being blocked. Zhang is its executive editor. He, author of the WeChat post that went viral, is deeply pessimistic that China’s erasure of history can be reversed. “If you can still see some early information on the Chinese Internet now,” he wrote, “it is just the last ray of the setting sun.” Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2...llective-memory |
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Aug 15 2024, 02:10 PM
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I remember someone posted some archived articles from sliders, sci fi show from late 90s
Lots of interesting facts there you can’t google anymore |
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Aug 15 2024, 02:13 PM
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Yes, please delete everything, including stored files, after 10 years. Save the planet. We can't afford to have more data centers sucking up energy usage. Whoever need to keep can store in their own hard discs.
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Aug 15 2024, 02:32 PM
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my 1st fapping site uh-oh.com still running strong after 2 decades.
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Aug 15 2024, 02:33 PM
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even p2p content also can died off, apatah lagi client server...
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Aug 15 2024, 02:41 PM
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aside from geocities, used to have webpage in xoom.
now domain owned by a bank liao. |
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Aug 15 2024, 02:41 PM
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Aug 15 2024, 03:17 PM
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Aug 15 2024, 07:27 PM
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Sep 19 2024, 03:12 PM
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We're losing our digital history. Can the Internet Archive save it?
Research shows 25% of web pages posted between 2013 and 2023 have vanished. A few organisations are racing to save the echoes of the web, but new risks threaten their very existence. By Chris Stokel-Walker It's possible, thanks to surviving fragments of papyrus, mosaics and wax tablets, to learn what Pompeiians ate for breakfast 2,000 years ago. Understand enough Medieval Latin, and you can learn how many livestock were reared at farms in Northumberland in 11th Century England – thanks to the Domesday Book, the oldest document held in the UK National Archives. Through letters and novels, the social lives of the Victorian era – and who they loved and hated – come into view. But historians of the future may struggle to understand fully how we lived our lives in the early 21st Century. That's because of a potentially history-deleting combination of how we live our lives digitally – and a paucity of official efforts to archive the world's information as it's produced these days. However, an informal group of organisations are pushing back against the forces of digital entropy – many of them operated by volunteers with little institutional support. None is more synonymous with the fight to save the web than the Internet Archive, an American non-profit based in San Francisco, started in 1996 as a passion project by internet pioneer Brewster Kahl. The organisation has embarked what may be the most ambitious digital archiving project of all time, gathering 866 billion web pages, 44 million books, 10.6 million videos of films and television programmes and more. Housed in a handful of data centres scattered across the world, the collections of the Internet Archive and a few similar groups are the only things standing in the way of digital oblivion. "The risks are manifold. Not just that technology may fail, but that certainly happens. But more important, that institutions fail, or companies go out of business. News organisations are gobbled up by other news organisations, or more and more frequently, they're shut down," says Mark Graham, director of the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine, a tool that collects and stores snapshots of websites for posterity. There are numerous incentives to put content online, he says, but there's little pushing companies to maintain it over the long term. Despite the Internet Archive's achievements thus far, the organisation and others like it face financial threats, technical challenges, cyberattacks and legal battles from businesses who dislike the idea of freely available copies of their intellectual property. And as recent court losses show, the project of saving the internet could be just as fleeting as the content it's trying to protect. "More and more of our intellectual endeavours, more of our entertainment, more of our news, and more of our conversations exist only in a digital environment," Graham says. "That environment is inherently fragile." Saving our history A quarter of all web pages that existed at some point between 2013 and 2023 now… don't. That's according to a recent study by Pew Research Center, a think tank based in Washington, DC, which raised the alarm of our disappearing digital history. Researchers found the problem is more acute the older a web page is: 38% of web pages that Pew tried to access that existed in 2013 no longer function. But it's also an issue for more recent publications. Some 8% of web pages published at some point 2023 were gone by October that same year. This isn't just a concern for history buffs and internet obsessives. According to the study, one in five government websites contains at least one broken link. Pew found more than half of Wikipedia articles have a broken link in their references section, meaning the evidence backing up the online encyclopaedia's information is slowly disintegrating. But thanks to the work of the Internet Archive, not all those dead links are totally inaccessible. For decades, the Archive's Wayback Machine project has sent armies of robots to crawl through the cascading labyrinths of the internet. These systems download functional copies of websites as they change over time – often capturing the same pages multiple times in a single day – and make them available to public free of charge. "When we then went and looked at how many of those URLs were available in the Wayback Machine, we found that two-thirds of those were available in a way," he says. In that sense, the Internet Archive is doing what it set out to do – it's saving records of online society for posterity. A few other organisations, big and small, work on similar projects. The US Library of Congress, for example, preserves government websites, the sites of congressmembers and a collection of US news sites. The Library of Congress also preserved a copy of every single tweet sent since the founding of Twitter (now known as X), until the project was shut down in 2017. Other governments run their own initiatives. The UK Web Archive conducts an annual crawl of websites with .UK domain names, capturing a snapshot of the British internet at least once a year. In 2022, band of volunteers to set out to save the Ukrainian internet as it was hit by Russian cyberattacks. But the scope of these projects is narrow, while the Internet Archive aims for a comprehensive approach. Given the available resources, it would be impossible to collect anything close to the whole internet, but its systems cast a broad net. Depending on what you're looking for, the Internet Archive's collection is so thorough it can sometimes feel like a functionally complete record of the web. Success breeds complacency The Archive's publicly accessible documents help sustain records of our lives in the current era. It's become a standard practise on Wikipedia to cite copies of websites from the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine, rather than the original websites themselves. The organisation also preserves a vast collection of media that predates the digital era. The beloved 1977 comedy series Fernwood 2 Night isn't available on any streaming service, but you can watch it free on the Internet Archive. Books, magazines and websites cite the Internet Archive’s scanned digital copies of books that are unavailable in physical libraries. It even acts as a preservation tool for the public; anyone can upload videos, websites and practically anything else to organisation's servers. Among the major collections that the Wayback Machine has salvaged from the digital scrapheap are deep records of websites built on GeoCities, a now defunct personal web hosting service. Long before social media, GeoCities was among the first platforms that made it easy for anyone to create their own website. Historians view GeoCities as one of the most important chapters in the early days of the world wide web, without the efforts of the Internet Archive, most of its websites would be lost. In more recent history, a US Congressional Committee relied on the Internet Archive to preserve article and documents related to the January 6 insurrection. "Every few years there's a new platform come along and then the economic forces suddenly kind of collapse in it," says Andrew Jackson, preservation registry technical architect at the Digital Preservation Coalition, a UK-based advocacy group and charity that advises on how to preserve the world's online digital archives. "That's one big source of churn." The tech news website CNET faced backlash in 2023 after reports that the company had deleted tens of thousands of articles, amounting to decades of lost history. Among CNET's responses was a promise that all its deleted articles had been preserved in the Wayback Machine. Many critics argued the company was taking the Internet Archive for granted, passing on its own archival responsibilities. "Even though Google and other search engines actively incentivise you to maintain stable URLs, it's just technically quite difficult to do that," says Jackson. "Every time a new company kind of revamped its website, it has to work out how much of its new URLs it's going to try and maintain through time." But it's worth remembering what the Internet Archive is: a non-profit organisation, financed by donations from charitable foundations. It makes for a never-ending project with exponentially growing costs. The Internet Archive volunteered to take on the mantle of being the world's leading library for our digital lives. As the web approaches its fourth decade, this entirely unofficial project has become a foundational pillar of the internet. But as our reliance on the Internet Archive grows, so too do the threats pecking away at its efforts. Single points of failure Last week, the organisation announced a major partnership with Google, where the tech giant engine will include links to the Wayback Machine in search results – though neither released financial details about the deal. But other recent news demonstrates that the project is still fragile. That vulnerability was laid bare in a court case against the Internet Archive by four large book publishers, who alleged that the Internet Archive’s practise of scanning physical books and lending out digital copies breaches US copyright law. Before the pandemic, the Internet Archive would only lend one digital copy at a time for each physical book in its collection. But during the Covid shutdowns, the organisation lifted that restriction, letting patrons borrow unlimited digital copies of books to try and make up for the closure of physical libraries. A US court ruled that practice was illegal in 2023, and in early September, the Internet Archive’s appeal against that decision was rejected. The organisation previously said that it agreed to pay the a publishing industry trade group an undisclosed sum in relation to the case. With that lawsuit in the rearview, the Internet Archive is fighting yet another court case against music labels for digitising records that could cost it $400m (about £305m) if it loses. It's an amount that could jeopardise the non-profit's survival. Internet Archive's director of library services Chris Freeland said the organisation is reviewing the courts' opinion a statement about the ruling. Existential legal battles aren't the only hazards menacing the world of digital preservation. The British Library's UK Web Archive got a taste of some malevolent technical challenges last when a cyberattack took its digital systems offline in October 2023. Almost a year later, the UK Web Archive is still dealing with the fallout. Online access to much of its collection is still unavailable. In May 2024, the Internet Archive announced it was in the midst of a large distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack. In a DDoS attack, vandals or other bad actors set up automated systems to bombard websites with visits, attempting to push them offline by overwhelming their servers. At its peak, tens of thousands of concurrent visits were happening every second. Services, including the Wayback Machine, went down. It meant that the regular drumbeat of archiving was disrupted for a time, and there may be permanent gaps in the historical record as a result. The Internet Archive "was started by one individual, and it has become a kind of linchpin", says Jackson. "It also feels like this potential single point of failure. Although it's a lot more sophisticated than just volunteers, it is one institution in one region, under one legal framework." The organisation shares these concerns. If the Internet Archive's work stopped and "that void wasn't immediately filled, then much of what is currently made available on the public web would be at risk", says Graham. He's clear that the Internet Archive won't step back from its responsibilities anytime soon, but the project can use outside help. "There are opportunities for many others to contribute in a variety of ways," he says. Shared responsibilities, split priorities With no formal effort to organise efforts to preserve the internet, the project is left to hobbyists, volunteers, and a few groups of unofficial bodies that generally operate independently. "It makes sense that the archival response is decentralised," says Mar Hicks, a historian of technology at the University of Virginia. "But one of the problems is the varied priorities." Hicks points out that one of the first things any archivist will consider when building an archive is what to prioritise. "And when it's so decentralised, the priorities are going to be very different," Hicks says. "There's going to be people in groups who prioritise trying to grab everything – as much as they possibly can, they might be very completionist." Then there will be others who are focused only on certain areas – for instance, the UK archiving effort. The concern about such an ad hoc, decentralised approach is that it's possible there's overlap, meaning precious archiving resources are wasted getting duplicate or triplicate copies of the most popular websites – all while some areas that may have historical importance are overlooked because they fall between different groups' responsibilities. "Archivists will tell you that these issues have existed for a very long time," Hicks says. But they're exacerbated by the level of stuff being produced in our digital world. Nearly a billion emails are sent every day. YouTube reports that more than 500 hours' worth of video content is posted on the platform every minute. The internet is "essentially a firehose of information and material," says Hicks. "It doesn't make sense to try to catch everything that comes out of the firehose. That wouldn't make sense from a resource standpoint." In one sense this is an old concern. "We have, as historians, those same problems," says Hicks. "We have a wealth of documents from the past. But we only have certain documents and certain people's voices, and a lot of those voices that were missing were incredibly important, and they've been erased." For Hicks, there needs to be some sort of priority about what is being saved from the digital footprints of our generation. Otherwise we run the risk that rapidly ballooning costs will sideline efforts to save the history of the web – not to mention the oceans of digital files that live offline. "If you have to keep everything, it becomes very expensive," says Jackson of the Digital Preservation Coalition. "There's often older content or less compelling content [that] gets lost by the wayside," he says. "We're not capturing the non-Western world well," admits Jackson. "There are gaps now around incompleteness in different cultural domains." And while many of those organisations work to fight against their biases and prejudices, they're often left to carry the weight of the task while governments and the companies that run the platforms and websites sit by. "Independent groups of people, who are just caring about it and are willing to spend their free time doing it, are better resourced and more highly skilled than the institutions which are formally responsible," says Jackson. There's a vacuum, argues Hicks, which few people other than a handful of archivist obsessives are filling. "It's not clear whose responsibility it is to archive [the internet] or whose interest it would serve," Hicks says. One thing is clear, though, Hicks says, we should all pay up to support the fight for preservation. "From a very pragmatic perspective, if you do not pay these people and make sure that these archives are funded, they will not exist into the future, they will break down and then the whole point of collecting them will have gone out the window," says Hicks. "Because the whole point of the archive is not that it just gets collected, but that it persists indefinitely into the future." The Enlightenment of the 18th century saw the birth of an international library movement as governments and philanthropists took on the need to preserve and distribute books for the public. But that sense of civic responsibility hasn't extended to the internet. That may be due to the complicated business interests of the digital world, or just the immense technical challenge. Or, perhaps, it's because it doesn't feel like the web needs saving to casual observers. A book is a more obviously finite resource; it can be lost or damaged. But the internet feels so accessible. Anyone with an internet connection can pull up a web browser and dial in a URL. It's all right there – until it isn't. Source: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240912...ve-the-internet |
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